Anyone else noticed how Killers dodge bloody Dwights or P3 survivors?

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Dwight strats.
I think it's a tad silly, I mean if it comes down to P3 survivors could always wear generic clothes so they can't tell. Then there's the fact, a not bloody meg doesn't mean they don't have a bloody Bill.

I mean, I think SWF dodging is a tad silly because it's mostly under "suspicion" but at least there's some logic behind doing it, but dodging a bloody survivor is a bit of a joke.
Mostly because, survivors can't see bloody killers and so don't dodge, they only dodge lobbies if the ping is bad, or if the Killer was on their "blocked list" back in the older days.

[Sahansral_GER]

Originally posted by Thalnos:

You know that survivors can't see the killer in lobby right?

Yes. In the past they could see him, afaik. The changed it to the current state on purpose, I guess.

Originally posted by Thalnos:

And dodging lobbies all the time also break the matchmaking system

Dodging could only affect matchmaking, if a certain amount of killers accumulate and do it. And according to survivors there's no reason that could ever possibly happen

[Sahansral_GER]

Originally posted by Preliator:

Best fix to avoid dodging would be to implement a quick search feature, and in quick search you have the option to play as killer, survivor or host a SWF. But no one has availability to "dodge" the quick search. Instead it can work like most competitive games, it search for players, when it finds them they all have to ready up, then it takes them to the lobby to pick their survivor/killer but if they forfeit this they get a penalty. This competitive feature also hides both teams choice of character until they've locked it in or the match begins.

That would be reasonable, if you could opt in/out of SWFs.
I don't think that killers want to be forced to play against SWFs.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by Sahansral_GER:

Originally posted by Preliator:

Best fix to avoid dodging would be to implement a quick search feature, and in quick search you have the option to play as killer, survivor or host a SWF. But no one has availability to "dodge" the quick search. Instead it can work like most competitive games, it search for players, when it finds them they all have to ready up, then it takes them to the lobby to pick their survivor/killer but if they forfeit this they get a penalty. This competitive feature also hides both teams choice of character until they've locked it in or the match begins.

That would be reasonable, if you could opt in/out of SWFs.

Well usually with competitive match makings it's alright to host a party and join with your friends.
This was allowed in other Asymmetrical games like Evolve and F-13th.
Reason being because it is "competitive play"

Personally it's not SWF that's the problem, because if it was then the problem is the Survivor teams are too much sass for the Killers to handle. It's actually more to do with certain mechanics a SWF can use and abuse against the killer that causes the issues and that needs fixing.

In Short/TL;DR Competitive play should allow SWF's, but there should be a casual mode that allows players/Killers to opt out of SWF.

[hot stuff]

if they remove swf I'm quitting and so are 80% of the survivor playerbase.

[Sahansral_GER]

Originally posted by iCeFLARE:

if they remove swf I'm quitting and so are 80% of the survivor playerbase.

If they force to play against swf I'm quitting and so are *draws number out of his *** of the killer playerbase. And now? Mexican standoff. Healthy for the game?

[Razblaze]

Just need to implement a better system to punish dodgers/game droppers. Just do what every other online game does - increasing reque times. If you''re a blatant repeat offender - soft bans.

Dedicated servers lessen this headache so much. Also better SWF party system.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by Sahansral_GER:

Originally posted by iCeFLARE:

if they remove swf I'm quitting and so are 80% of the survivor playerbase.

If they force to play against swf I'm quitting and so are *draws number out of his *** of the killer playerbase. And now? Mexican standoff. Healthy for the game?

That's what we call a stalemate. Lmao.
I do agree, SWF is really more of a "Competitive" set up, which is why it's my belief DBD Devs need to make a Comp mode and Casual mode. That way SWF won't be forced upon killers.
Most Killers wouldn't really mind SWF's if they fixed a few underlying issues that come into play with a well coordinated 4man SWF.
One suggestion, would be to force in game voice chat and make it local, so even if they're running discord, the Killer can still hear them talk in game, giving the killer the same information as the survivors. "Come meet me by the shack" is not very beneficial when the Killer hears it too.

[hot stuff]

Originally posted by Sahansral_GER:

Originally posted by iCeFLARE:

if they remove swf I'm quitting and so are 80% of the survivor playerbase.

If they force to play against swf I'm quitting and so are *draws number out of his *** of the killer playerbase. And now? Mexican standoff. Healthy for the game?

How is this fair for SWF? If you don't like it don't play or just dodge.. I wanna play with my friends and have a good time. Now ♥♥♥♥ off and go camp some survivors cause that's the only way to win now.

[hot stuff]

Originally posted by Preliator:

Originally posted by Sahansral_GER:

If they force to play against swf I'm quitting and so are *draws number out of his *** of the killer playerbase. And now? Mexican standoff. Healthy for the game?

That's what we call a stalemate. Lmao.
I do agree, SWF is really more of a "Competitive" set up, which is why it's my belief DBD Devs need to make a Comp mode and Casual mode. That way SWF won't be forced upon killers.
Most Killers wouldn't really mind SWF's if they fixed a few underlying issues that come into play with a well coordinated 4man SWF.
One suggestion, would be to forced in game voice chat and make it local, so even if they're running discord, the Killer can still hear them talk in game, giving the killer the same information as the survivors. "Come meet me by the shack" is not very beneficial when the Killer hears it too.

I don't like the local radio thing, but the casual and competitive one sounds good. Seperate ranks for both. But then, you would have too many sandbaggers on the survivor side.

[Rylanor the Unyielding]

Originally posted by iCeFLARE:

Originally posted by Preliator:

That's what we call a stalemate. Lmao.
I do agree, SWF is really more of a "Competitive" set up, which is why it's my belief DBD Devs need to make a Comp mode and Casual mode. That way SWF won't be forced upon killers.
Most Killers wouldn't really mind SWF's if they fixed a few underlying issues that come into play with a well coordinated 4man SWF.
One suggestion, would be to forced in game voice chat and make it local, so even if they're running discord, the Killer can still hear them talk in game, giving the killer the same information as the survivors. "Come meet me by the shack" is not very beneficial when the Killer hears it too.

I don't like the local radio thing, but the casual and competitive one sounds good. Seperate ranks for both. But then, you would have too many sandbaggers on the survivor side.

If it's competitive play, no because a lot of the competitive player would be SWF's vsing really powerful killers for bonus/unique rewards.
Casual play on the other hand, yeah you'd see a higher concentration of scrubs without a doubt.

Edit: Why I think with comp play, the in game voice chat should be a forced feature for the Killers playing Comp.