Sturgeon.... why bother?

[buzbyt]

Hi
I caughy a 51lb sturgeon today and it cost me more to catch than the reward for catching.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=708816309

my reel alone cost 360 to repair.
And its not like the xp makes it worth it.

Please do something about this.

Uni Pike or trophy muskie are easier to catch and give shed loads more return.

Thanks

[buzbyt]

Just hooked another one that smashed my DLC float rod n reel using 30lb braid!
So heaviest rod available with heaviest reel available loaded with heaviest braid available and still could'nt land it. You have buggered them.

[darrren]

Originally posted by buzbyt:

Just hooked another one that smashed my DLC float rod n reel using 30lb braid!
So heaviest rod available with heaviest reel available loaded with heaviest braid available and still could'nt land it. You have buggered them.

if a rod/reel can only handle 25lb why use 30lb line when you know it will break said rod or reel ?

[Capt_Mac_141]

Originally posted by darrren:

if a rod/reel can only handle 25lb why use 30lb line when you know it will break said rod or reel ?

Exactly, LOL

[buzbyt]

Have you tried to land any Sturgeon using 25lb mono? Which by your logic is the highesst rated line that should be used with the brutus rods.
The line is too elastic and will not land them.
Braid has to be used.
With carful use of drag any rod can use any line.


Unless you have constructive comments to make please hold your tounge.

[Capt_Mac_141]

Originally posted by buzbyt:

Have you tried to land any Sturgeon using 25lb mono? Which by your logic is the highesst rated line that should be used with the brutus rods.
The line is too elastic and will not land them.
Braid has to be used.
With carful use of drag any rod can use any line.


Unless you have constructive comments to make please hold your tounge.

No need to be rude!!!

I have landed numerous Sturgeon with the Brutus, Dbl. punch and 25 lb Fluoro.

The Dev's issued several statements with previous patches that "balanced" set ups would be the norm. With line being the weakest part, in order to prevent damage to rod / reel combinations.

OBVIUOSLY, you did not heed the Dev's advice. Your ignorance of the games mechanics caused your failure.

UPDATE 0.3.0 COMING IN 30 MINUTES! BRACE YOURSELVES!
10 MARCH - ALEX
Hey there!

The game-changing Update is almost here! We have put a lot of effort in delivering it and you should know - fishing is now addictive as never before. Things shall be tuned but we are sure that current update will change the way you fish!

Read the updates with attention!

Additional tackle parameters
New parameters influencing casting mechanic
1) Rod Casting Test
2) Lure Weight
3) Lure Windage
4) Line Thickness – visibility factor in Fish AI increased
5) Reel Type (cast reel or spin reel)
6) Line Type (braid or mono/flur)
7) Min Cast Weight (of lure) for cast reels
New bobber params enabling unique sensitivity and lifting capacity for each bobber type

BALANCE YOUR SETUP WISELY! THE SETUP IS ALWAYS A BALANCE NOW!

HEAVY LURES CAN BREAK THIN LINE AND IF THE LINE IS STRONG ENOUGH AND YOU CAST A STONE-HEAVY LURE YOU MAY DAMAGE A LIGHT ROD.

STRONG LINE REQUIRES A STRONG REEL AND MAY SAFE YOU FROM THE INITIAL STRIKE OF A FISH BUT BREAK YOUR REEL IN THE LEAST APPROPRIATE MOMENT.

IDEAL CASTING DISTANCE DEPENDS ON PUTTING THE RIGHT LINE, LURE, ROD AND REEL. IT ALL MATTERS!

[darrren]

Originally posted by buzbyt:

Have you tried to land any Sturgeon using 25lb mono? Which by your logic is the highesst rated line that should be used with the brutus rods.
The line is too elastic and will not land them.
Braid has to be used.
With carful use of drag any rod can use any line.


Unless you have constructive comments to make please hold your tounge.

wrong 25lb line is the highest you can use with the double punch reels use anything stronger and you wiil break the reels also there are 3 brutus rods and they all have seperate charictoristics and the best one by far is the 360 and with the 360+dp6500+25lb line you can easly land trophy blue cats and sturgeon where as if you use the 300/330 brutus there to strong/short and dont bend enough and endup puting all the preasure on the reel you should try different setups and find what works best for you :D

[moonpiespotlight]

There's this perception about the intent of the game that everything you do is supposed to be a net+ for XP money or gold. Somewhere in all this is the sport of fishing. They aren't highly sought after fish, most people don't even eat them and in fact it's common for folks to spear them through the ice in the winter time. The fact that the game gives you anything for them is amazing to me. Same is true for freshwater druml they aren't considered great table fare.

Salmon, trout, crappie.. maybe some other panfish and Walleye, those are good table fare and would fetch a price.

My understanding of this game is that you get money by selling your fish. There's simply no market for sturgeon. Same with blue cats. Catfish isn't that expensive, and you'd be hard pressed to sell a 50lb one.

I'm not sure that's how it works though, just speaking from "what IRL would fetch".

[moonpiespotlight]

Originally posted by darrren:

Originally posted by buzbyt:

Have you tried to land any Sturgeon using 25lb mono? Which by your logic is the highesst rated line that should be used with the brutus rods.
The line is too elastic and will not land them.
Braid has to be used.
With carful use of drag any rod can use any line.


Unless you have constructive comments to make please hold your tounge.

wrong 25lb line is the highest you can use with the double punch reels use anything stronger and you wiil break the reels also there are 3 brutus rods and they all have seperate charictoristics and the best one by far is the 360 and with the 360+dp6500+25lb line you can easly land trophy blue cats and sturgeon where as if you use the 300/330 brutus there to strong/short and dont bend enough and endup puting all the preasure on the reel you should try different setups and find what works best for you :D

Although what you say is true, jthe stepped drag system makes balance more difficult than a real infinite drag system would. I wish there has a higher resolution drag setting on these reels. Because there isn't, I will often overload my reel and just use caution. That's because the reel will have 23lb drag and the line will be 25lbs. Any reel with 23lbs of drag could handle 25lb test line with ease without actually doing any damage. Still, it puts you at the wrong range when you try to balance, the windows are offset too much, I suspect intentionally to get you looking to buy better gear (with game money or gold or whatever).

[McGiven]

Originally posted by moonpiespotlight:

There's this perception about the intent of the game that everything you do is supposed to be a net+ for XP money or gold. Somewhere in all this is the sport of fishing. They aren't highly sought after fish, most people don't even eat them and in fact it's common for folks to spear them through the ice in the winter time. The fact that the game gives you anything for them is amazing to me. Same is true for freshwater druml they aren't considered great table fare.
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Sturgeons = caviar = money
Freshwater drum = ear stones = money

[SH4D0W]

LOL...

STOP Reeling while the fish is pulling drag
(yes i know many people know this but i have still seen lvl 22 players doing this in streams)

All the while Crying about how long its taking to land a fish and all the while constantly holding left mouse button even while the fish is running with line.

Both IRL and in Game.
You will NEVER make any ground reeling the reel while the fish is pulling drag it is counter rotation so only speeds up the rate at which drag spins..

When the fish runs there is only 2 things to do
1, Hold Right mouse lift rod to max height So the rod is doing 90% Work.
2, Tighten the drag to maximum possible the line will allow (line should always be the factor that determines the max drag you can use NEVER the reel or rod loading with strain)

Also like mentioned above the line should always be the weakest point in the link.
No reason to brake a rod or reel in this game except for Achievments.

[Capt_Mac_141]

Originally posted by SH4D0W:

LOL...

STOP Reeling while the fish is pulling drag
(yes i know many people know this but i have still seen lvl 22 players doing this in streams)

All the while Crying about how long its taking to land a fish and all the while constantly holding left mouse button even while the fish is running with line.

Both IRL and in Game.
You will NEVER make any ground reeling the reel while the fish is pulling drag it is counter rotation so only speeds up the rate at which drag spins..

When the fish runs there is only 2 things to do
1, Hold Right mouse lift rod to max height So the rod is doing 90% Work.
2, Tighten the drag to maximum possible the line will allow (line should always be the factor that determines the max drag you can use NEVER the reel or rod loading with strain)

Also like mentioned above the line should always be the weakest point in the link.
No reason to brake a rod or reel in this game except for Achievments.

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