Best Rod, Reel and Line Combos

[Krhymez]

Recently i have seen a lot of complaints about the Drag, and how it works on cetain rods and reels.

After testing, i think most people do not understand why it works or how it works the way it does.
First off the Max limits for rods and reels are missleading.

For example, right now in Cali im using.

-Far Caster 8'6''
-Helios 3000 P
- .11''/ .28mm braid (30 lbs test)

With this set up i can reel in a 25lbs fish on 3 drag with no problem, even 4 drag on some.If i were to follow what the poles limit was, i would think 10.5 lbs test would cause the pole to break. But this is far from the truth.

I may be wrong here, but from testing it would seem the drag does infact act like a Clutch. Meaning at 3 drag, it causes 50% tension. so a 30 lbs fish at this setting would create a tension of 15lbs. So with 15lbs test line on drag 3 or 2... i would be able to pull in a fish of this size, but it would be a back and forth fight.

When i used 12lbs test line, i could reel in a fish at 2 drag, if a fish was under 23 lbs i could use drag 3 but with a high risk of it breaking the line. if the fish was over 24.... i had no chance on drag 3.

What im trying to say is. Try stronger line. Even if its says you risk breaking the pole. Use the 50% as drag 3 as your base as to if you will break your pole or not, then go from there.

If your pole and reel say max limit 10lbs, try 20lbs test line. and fish at drag 2 untill you catch a fish. Then up the drag as needed. You will be suprized the limits of your gear.

Tight lines

[Flare |UKCS|]

I thought it worked a little differently than you do...

I thought the drag as mentioned on the reel was the most it could apply, before the reel began to take damage, so say a 2 kg reel could take up to 2 kg then it would start to take damage, and so it was better to use a line close to or just a bit higher so the line would break before your reel took too much damage.

In theory, a 3 kg fish caught on a 4kg line using a 2kg reel should result in the fish damaging the reel, the line is too strong to break but the fish is too heavy for the reel.

Thats how I understood it anyway :P

[W0mbat]

The drag system is in no way working how a real drag does and the specs on the rods, reels and line have no influence or are not calculated and programmed right. You only have to do the math on those 3 items and easily see what the breaking tension should be on the drag but clearly doesn't work that way in game. I have broken a rod with half the max breaking strain on the line, for instance, 5kg rod with 2.5kg line, which just shouldn't happen and also the drag tensions I have tested should withstand stronger breaking stains than it actually does. For instance a line strength that has a breaking strain at 5notches of drag breaks at 3. That's taking rod, reel and line specs into consideration. The specs don't add up to what it does in game.

[W0mbat]

引用自 Flare |UKCS|：

In theory, a 3 kg fish caught on a 4kg line using a 2kg reel should result in the fish damaging the reel, the line is too strong to break but the fish is too heavy for the reel.

You shouldn't be using a 4kg line on a 2kg reel to begin with. The math works like this in order of strength. Rod, reel, line. So your rod should be stronger than your reel, your reel stronger than your line. Worse case scenario, your line will snap. If it's in reverse, 1, you don't have it set up right and 2, that is asking for instant rig damage from line, rod and reel.

[Krhymez]

引用自 DragonFly67：

引用自 Flare |UKCS|：

In theory, a 3 kg fish caught on a 4kg line using a 2kg reel should result in the fish damaging the reel, the line is too strong to break but the fish is too heavy for the reel.

You shouldn't be using a 4kg line on a 2kg reel to begin with. The math works like this in order of strength. Rod, reel, line. So your rod should be stronger than your reel, your reel stronger than your line. Worse case scenario, your line will snap. If it's in reverse, 1, you don't have it set up right and 2, that is asking for instant rig damage from line, rod and reel.

Yes you should with 50% drag. Again your looking at the max drag as the max line.... and thats just wrong.

4kg line / 2

[Bumblewoot]

引用自 Krhymez：

引用自 DragonFly67：

You shouldn't be using a 4kg line on a 2kg reel to begin with. The math works like this in order of strength. Rod, reel, line. So your rod should be stronger than your reel, your reel stronger than your line. Worse case scenario, your line will snap. If it's in reverse, 1, you don't have it set up right and 2, that is asking for instant rig damage from line, rod and reel.

Yes you should with 50% drag. Again your looking at the max drag as the max line.... and thats just wrong.

4kg line / 2

But then aren't you just limiting yourself to half your drag for no 'reel' ;) reason? 1 to 3 notch instead of 1-6?. I'm trying to understand. Or are you saying with your setup, you can still go over 50% and be fine?

[Krhymez]

引用自 Durkaderr：

引用自 Krhymez：

Yes you should with 50% drag. Again your looking at the max drag as the max line.... and thats just wrong.

4kg line / 2

But then aren't you just limiting yourself to half your drag for no 'reel' ;) reason? 1 to 3 notch instead of 1-6?. I'm trying to understand. Or are you saying with your setup, you can still go over 50% and be fine?

i can go 3-4 drag on a 25lbs fish. I cant tell you any larger because this is my biggest.
Only way i could break my pole is turning the drag to 6. Or on a snag.(tested)
But i have yet to break a pole on a fish 10lbs-25lbs on this set up. 3-5 drag.
If and when i catch a unique stipper i will post my drag limits. Been fishing almost 12hrs in Cali, it is an elusive fish for me.

[Bumblewoot]

引用自 Krhymez：

If and when i catch a unique stipper i will post my drag limits. Been fishing almost 12hrs in Cali, it is an elusive fish for me.

Maybe the devs nerfed you...

Sorry... I couldn't resist, had to make the joke. For those that don't get it, just ignore me.

[McSpartan]

The rod/reel/line compatibility needs to be urgently fixed with tool tips in the store. For new guys, it's nearly impossible to figure out what goes with what. Trial and error cost me a lot of credits.

[Krhymez]

引用自 McSpartan：

The rod/reel/line compatibility needs to be urgently fixed with tool tips in the store. For new guys, it's nearly impossible to figure out what goes with what. Trial and error cost me a lot of credits.

I find that the warning message is what throwing people off.
Sure 20lbs test is so strong that a pole with a 10lbs limit can break, but thats if you lock the drag on a snag. 50% drag on a 20lbs fish, should pull about 10lbs of force on the pole, sure you risk breaking the pole, but you probly wont.

In order to use heavy line on liter poles, the drag must be set correctly. You can judge this by the size of the fish you are trying to catch.

[Slippyfish]

The OP is very correct here. This doesn't apply to reels but rods only. If you put a bigger line on a rod that the rod says it can't handle and you get that little warning that it could cause damage, well it may. But if you start out with it slowly on a lesser drag and work your way up to find it's limitations you will, in most cases be very surprized at how well the rod will perform.

[Swydo]

i thought you was joking when u said .11''/ .28mm braid (30 lbs test)