Size of Hooks and Lures

[Balashark111]

I heard that the size of hooks and lures in this game makes a difference in the size of fish that you catch, is this true because in real life it makes no difference.

Also, with the levels, is this also tied in with the size of fish you can catch?

Thank you and can't wait STILL to get started after the BIG patch. BASS BASS AND MORE BASS!

[FlaGuitars]

Bigger bait/lure catch bigger fish in both RL and the game. Same with hooks although in RL a big fish dont care what size hook you use ( they would rather no hook at all ) but a hook will bend or break if it is too small.

[Balashark111]

Originally posted by FlaGuitars:

Bigger bait/lure catch bigger fish in both RL and the game. Same with hooks although in RL a bigger fish dont care what size hook ( they would rather no hook) but a hook will bend or break if it is too small.

Not necessarily true but I'm not here to argue and you have been really nice and helpful to me. Lets agree to disagree on this one. :)

[FlaGuitars]

Yup... and in RL there are little to no laws about how to catch fish... But structure, cover, weather and bait size are rules.... not Laws but Rules. A casual read on any general fishing book will mention structure, cover, weather and bait size but I dont speak from book knoweledge, I have been fishing the real Everglades for about 48 yrears now.

[Balashark111]

Originally posted by FlaGuitars:

Yup... and in RL there are little to no laws about how to catch fish... But structure, cover, weather and bait size are rules.... no Laws but Rules. A casual read on any general fishing book will mention structure, cover, weather and bait size but I dont speak from book knoweledge, I have been fishing the real Everglades for about 48 yrears now.

Then I have learned something today. I Appreciate it. What about what level you are in the game does that make a big difference on size as well? Are you locked to a certain size because of it?

[FlaGuitars]

It seems to me that you will have better chances for bigger fish the higher level you are.

To be totaly honest with you and I hope this comes across as respectful...... I am not sure your are gonna enjoy this game. You are waiting for a patch that makes leveling easier. You have missed a couple days worth of leveling and credits because of that but...... this game is not about "Leveling" its about " Fishing". You can not reach certain areas or use certain gear without a certain level and you wont be "Big Man" on the leaderboard without levels but the heart of the game is fishing. Those who love the game love the fishing..... Those who complain about the game complain about levels and grind and not playing wisely and therefore running out of money.

I hope I am wrong and you love the game but I dont think the "Big Patch" is not gonna make you love or hate it anymore than it is now..... Not only should you be playing now you should of started a few days a go. Its a great game.

[Smoke]

I guess you can still catch bigger fish on smaller hooks, but you catch more small fish inbetween.
There is a correlation between bait(size) + hooksize... some combo's will only give you trophies and/or uniques... other combo's might also give you normal, young and other fish.
I guess you could catch trophy bass on a #4 hook with wurms... but it might be that the young and normal adult ones are more prevalent and quicker to take that and hence not hook a trophy.
Or, on another spot, using a #2 hook with wax worms might give me pumpkinseed, redear sunfish... and the occasional trophy. Do I put Crawfish Cut on that same hook, I will only catch trophies.

edit:
bigger hooks and bigger lures are level-locked indeed. So you do have to progress a bit to get the bigger/heavier gear... but it wont take many levels to get stuff to catch the bass, bass and more bass

[alex]

Hey guys!

We shall add more sizes quite soon.

Current system is plain and is made so to be sure it all works fine and as designed.

The variety shall dramatically increase.

[Balashark111]

Originally posted by alex:

Hey guys!

We shall add more sizes quite soon.

Current system is plain and is made so to be sure it all works fine and as designed.

The variety shall dramatically increase.

Thank you Alex! Glad to see you are holding up under the stress and forum abuse. Keep moving forward.

[MKing2]

Originally posted by Forcedchaos:

I heard that the size of hooks and lures in this game makes a difference in the size of fish that you catch, is this true because in real life it makes no difference.

Also, with the levels, is this also tied in with the size of fish you can catch?

Thank you and can't wait STILL to get started after the BIG patch. BASS BASS AND MORE BASS!

there seems to be a cutoff point on hook sizes where no smaller fish can take. example: I have never landed a young largemouth bass on a #3/0

The only connection between level of player and size of fish they are able to catch is the linear xp / credit / gear / location lock progression system currently implemented.

[Sinister]

Originally posted by alex:

Hey guys!

We shall add more sizes quite soon.

Current system is plain and is made so to be sure it all works fine and as designed.

The variety shall dramatically increase.

Hope this mix of sizes in all areas means I can catch a 10lb bass no matter where I go.

[n1[kn4|\/|3]

Hooksize sometimes works a little strange in game, i tried a lot on carps where #2/0 or #3/0 turned out to give the best result in size of fish vs number of fish vs time to wait for fish to take bait. Thats monster hooks for carpfishing with corn or peas. Going up to even bigger hooks will take forever to make the fish take the bait which is reasonable, but smaller hooks do the same. Hook #6 works as bad as hook #6/0. Bait on hook #10 and #10/0 will never be taken. Smaller hooks should made the fish take the bait faster. Bigger fish will have trouble to get hooked and have a good chance to break the hook ofc but there is no reason it would be as suspicious to smaller hooks as it will to bigger hooks.

[Guffaluff]

Originally posted by alex:

Hey guys!

We shall add more sizes quite soon.

Current system is plain and is made so to be sure it all works fine and as designed.

The variety shall dramatically increase.

This is awesome news :). Love the game, but the "systematic" sizes of the fishes kinda bugged me, kinda my only issue so far, and it's a minor one. Happy that it's a part of the progress :)

[MKing2]

Tested a 2" Worm on a #3/0 jig: Clearly an improper setup, the small worm on a large hook:

Results:

• The Young Largemouth were on the lure almost every cast and swimming to the bank still trying but failing to get hooked on it.
  
• Hooked a Largemouth that escaped from High Tension quite easily (my first ever High Tension escape ~ I assume because I don't usually fish with such an awkward lure setup)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512392700

[Krhymez]

Originally posted by Abstrx:

Tested a 2" Worm on a #3/0 jig: Clearly an improper setup, the small worm on a large hook:

Results:

• The Young Largemouth were on the lure almost every cast and swimming to the bank still trying but failing to get hooked on it.
  
• Hooked a Largemouth that escaped from High Tension quite easily (my first ever High Tension escape ~ I assume because I don't usually fish with such an awkward lure setup)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512392700

The Tension Escape has me thinking. Since i have been having similar issues with 12lbs test on a 12.5 drag reel. Maybe if i lower the line test it wont happen. Since you enjoy testing.... See if the high tension is related to the Lure/hook size or if its the line test/reel/pole.
Testing "small hook on strong line, Big hook on weak line"....ect

[MKing2]

Originally posted by Krhymez:

Originally posted by Abstrx:

Tested a 2" Worm on a #3/0 jig: Clearly an improper setup, the small worm on a large hook:

Results:

• The Young Largemouth were on the lure almost every cast and swimming to the bank still trying but failing to get hooked on it.
  
• Hooked a Largemouth that escaped from High Tension quite easily (my first ever High Tension escape ~ I assume because I don't usually fish with such an awkward lure setup)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512392700

The Tension Escape has me thinking. Since i have been having similar issues with 12lbs test on a 12.5 drag reel. Maybe if i lower the line test it wont happen. Since you enjoy testing.... See if the high tension is related to the Lure/hook size or if its the line test/reel/pole.
Testing "small hook on strong line, Big hook on weak line"....ect

I havn't been online for some time now but am pretty sure after breaking the cheap rod I thought suitable for Muddwater in the previous test. I did continue fishing with my higher gear with longer rod, stronger drag and more line weight. Only then did i experience my first High Tension escape.

I will def run some more tests later.