"High Tension" Fish Escapes.

[Krhymez]

I feel this needs to be toned down a bit.
Currently it seems too sensitive.
I am using a Nuro rod, EspiraML 3500 with 12lbs test Fluoro.
While fishing for fish in the 7-9lbs range, Drag 3 will cause most of the fish to get lost from "high Tension". The metter on the right bearly highlights the top of the meter... and the fish is gone.

I feel that at high tension, we should only have lines snap, not fish slip the hook. When fishing your want to keep a tight line. On drag 2 with these fish they will just run your line and you have to risk the "timer" kicking in were the fish just spits the hook out mid fight.

I love this game and this is just an observation of mine that might need some balancing.

[Wicked Viking]

Its in the works.
If I understood the devs correctly, the CBT for the next big update starts next week.

[MKing2]

i was just running a low level test on this subject because i didn't think it was possible for a fish to slip the hook. It hasn't happend to me through level 16 YET. Glad to hear it can happen though.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=511831233

[Byeohazard]

Originally posted by Abstrx:

i was just running a low level test on this subject because i didn't think it was possible for a fish to slip the hook. It hasn't happend to me through level 16 YET. Glad to hear it can happen though.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=511831233

Bravo! More more!!

[apx]

where was the highlight? the upper field or just it's border? if just the border starts to glow yellow/red there is a chance to rip the hook out of the mouth of the fish.

you have to play with your break between 2 and 3 to handle this. but i've also never had a obscure "timer"-problem while reeling a 8+ pound unique peacock only with break 2.

@abstryx, your fish wasn't strong/heavy enough to rip the mouth. just try it again with trophy peacock or brown trout to make it happen.

[Ten Shoe McGrew]

It's the low tension losses that annoy me the most. How does the hook just fall out of the fishes mouth?

[aderek79]

Originally posted by Krhymez:

I feel that at high tension, we should only have lines snap, not fish slip the hook.

Originally posted by Topper Pelliot:

It's the low tension losses that annoy me the most. How does the hook just fall out of the fishes mouth? :spazdunno:

There should be some mechanic to allow fish that were merely snagged/poorly-hooked to escape because the fish spit the hook or it tore out. Likewise, it should be possible to hook the fish so well that no amount of low-tension or high-tension would let the fish get away.

[Aveous]

when i fish IRL, i use eagle claw hooks, never in my days of fishing have i ever had a fish magically rip its mouth off...when i set the hook, the fish is hooked and only 2 things happen, my line breaks or i catch the fish.

What kind of hooks are used in this game..it has to be like to top of a coat hanger, if they can "slip off" like that..here's an example:

proper fishing hook:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_hook#/media/File:Anatomyofafishhook.jpg

and what seems to be used in game:

http://www.pattayafishing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/GamakatsuHook-001-PattayaFishing.net_.jpg

[n1[kn4|\/|3]

Fishing salmon and hooking a big one.

Drag setting 3 -fish runs line from reel but lost from high tension, sometimes at yellow, sometimes at red. Hook size doesent matter #1/0 or #4/0 makes no difference.
Drag setting 2 - fisch runs about 100 meter, reel it back in and lost for no reasons at around 70 meter (must be the timer).
Or fish runs towards me - lost from low line tension. Despite low tension it does not reel in. Red hook indicator lower end of tension scale while tension meter is almost full (yellow 4 bars).
I must keep reel in button pressed at all times, if i release button all gets red instantly and fish is lost, unreasonable.
Compared to rl fishing high and low tension lost happens waaaaay to often in game. Tension meter often is stuck at 1, 2 or 3 bars. Had instant rod breaks out of nowhere. In CBT there has been symboles for force on reel and rod beside the tension meter, i never have seen them in early access, removed or bugged?

Fish "fights" are more challenging now but i get all this adrenaline for the wrong reasons...
I feel that stuff needs to be worked out in the next update if the update shall be about exciting fights. The adrenaline needs to come from a hard fight with locked on controls and indicators and it must be my fault if i loose the fish. Adrenaline from lost due to strange unreasonable indicators and controls is not the way to go.

[Ten Shoe McGrew]

Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin(Aveous):

proper fishing hook:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_hook#/media/File:Anatomyofafishhook.jpg

and what seems to be used in game:

http://www.pattayafishing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/GamakatsuHook-001-PattayaFishing.net_.jpg

Yeah, that looks about right. :)

[Krhymez]

Originally posted by Abstrx:

i was just running a low level test on this subject because i didn't think it was possible for a fish to slip the hook. It hasn't happend to me through level 16 YET. Glad to hear it can happen though.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=511831233

Now do this with a big fish.

[Dreckspatz]

Originally posted by Topper Pelliot:

It's the low tension losses that annoy me the most. How does the hook just fall out of the fishes mouth? :spazdunno:

Agreed. Drives me nuts when this happens.

[jeff1963]

Originally posted by Topper Pelliot:

It's the low tension losses that annoy me the most. How does the hook just fall out of the fishes mouth? :spazdunno:

Without proper tension or a (Tight Line) the hook can literally fall out of their mouth. So I think they have to make this a mechanic of the game.

[ReplicaX]

Originally posted by Cerebral Assassin(Aveous):

when i fish IRL, i use eagle claw hooks, never in my days of fishing have i ever had a fish magically rip its mouth off...when i set the hook, the fish is hooked and only 2 things happen, my line breaks or i catch the fish.

What kind of hooks are used in this game..it has to be like to top of a coat hanger, if they can "slip off" like that..here's an example:

proper fishing hook:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_hook#/media/File:Anatomyofafishhook.jpg

and what seems to be used in game:

http://www.pattayafishing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/GamakatsuHook-001-PattayaFishing.net_.jpg

Line strikes happen in real life as well as bad hook setting. A fish in real life can throw a hook, just happens way too often in this game. I agree regarding the "magically rips its mouth off" though. If the line test can't handle it, it should break. If it can is another story. Keep those hooks sharp!

[MKing2]

It's no where near as entertaining as my last High Tension test, but i did stumble on my first High Tension escape with a bad configuration to test fish size / hook size:

Tested a 2" Worm on a #3/0 jig: Clearly an improper setup, the small worm on a large hook:

Results:

• The Young Largemouth were on the lure almost every cast and swimming to the bank still trying but failing to get hooked on it.
  
• Hooked a Largemouth that escaped from High Tension quite easily (my first ever High Tension escape ~ I assume because I don't usually fish with such an awkward lure setup)

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=512392700