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alex 26 AGO 2015 a las 15:49
Bots and automated catch systems
Hey!

If some of you guys think we do not know or see bots or automated catchers you are wrong.

Automated results and bot results shall be erased and users may be banned.

Please, stop using these tools before we release the fix (which is soon), because after we do you may get a permaban.

Best regards, Alex
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Syd Khaos 26 AGO 2015 a las 22:05 
Keybind setup and macro or other automation are 2 very different things.

I dont think anyone is suggesting they ban for using keybinds....

Its when multiple times inputes can be triggered with one button press.....thats NOT a keybind. Its automation.

This distinction needs to be made early I think ya.
MarylandManson 26 AGO 2015 a las 22:39 
Under that situation when controllers are supported a turbo feature could be assumed a automation because it allows multiple presses with one push.

I think the distinction is bot or automatic fish catchers. Something that doesn't require the user to be actively playing.

Many people suffer from carpal tunnel. It would seem extreme that they would be banned for multiple clicks per press.
Última edición por MarylandManson; 26 AGO 2015 a las 22:44
gekco 26 AGO 2015 a las 23:07 
Publicado originalmente por Caliph:
Under that situation when controllers are supported a turbo feature could be assumed a automation because it allows multiple presses with one push.

I think the distinction is bot or automatic fish catchers. Something that doesn't require the user to be actively playing.

Many people suffer from carpal tunnel. It would seem extreme that they would be banned for multiple clicks per press.

This is exactly what I was thinking, for gamers who suffer from carpal tunnel it seems unfair for them to be banned because they use macros to fish. 2 years ago I started to get symptoms of carpal tunnel and it sucked, went to the doctors, I don't have carpal tunnel went through physo which helped lessen the pain a lot, but I still sometimes get pain in my wrist. So if I was to get banned for using a macro key that lessens my pain that's unfair, splints can only do so much.

If a user is using a bot where they can walk away from the computer then sure, I would classify that as a fishing bot. But if someone is using a macro that they keep activating themself to fish then that is okay IMO. I use my action lock feature on my MMO7 right now for reeling but I think I can also set macros on that mouse.
Syd Khaos 26 AGO 2015 a las 23:07 
Publicado originalmente por Caliph:
Under that situation when controllers are supported a turbo feature could be assumed a automation because it allows multiple presses with one push.

I think the distinction is bot or automatic fish catchers. Something that doesn't require the user to be actively playing.

Many people suffer from carpal tunnel. It would seem extreme that they would be banned for multiple clicks per press.


I would agree with the first statement....turbo on gamepad is a form of automation. And this is where/why the line needs to be drawn. While turbo is technicaly automation you can mimic it if fast enough. Alot of macros using timing that no human could mimic no matter how fast/good.


This bit about people with carpal tunnel......I understand that soemthing like a macro may be able to help play a game like this BUT there has to be a line draw.

This entire thread is aimed at competative fairness...I really hope everyone can see that ya. Its not about excluding people because they have carpal or athritus....its not about excluding those with keyboard/mice because they have em. Its about making a fair and balanced playing field for a competative game. And to do that some people that NEED automation may be left out. That would be very unfortunate but in a competative environment this balance must be found. Can there be a middle ground? What would allow someone with carpal to play for example....but can not be exploited to get edge in competition..

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And just a FYI I have beging arthritus in both hands....not super bad yet but long periods of gaming can get very painful. I assure you my concerns are 100% about competative fairness.
Última edición por Syd Khaos; 26 AGO 2015 a las 23:11
DanoUK 27 AGO 2015 a las 5:35 
If it can be exploited...people will find the loophole and make it.
If it can be made...it can be sold...and people will buy and use it.

This seems to be the mantra for all games I've played in my time. The fact that people who use these things are only fooling and cheating themselves seems to matter not one bit!
Many gamers want the easy life, many want to avoid the grind that everyone else has to suffer through, many just want to see their name up in lights on a leaderboard.
It's just a sad fact of gaming life these days!
apx 27 AGO 2015 a las 6:23 
wtf are you talking about? using macros has nothing to do with scripts who try to automatize a catch. hell, everytime those unnecessary discussions about comparing simple macros with bots.
so don't play the fool guys...
Última edición por apx; 27 AGO 2015 a las 6:24
Sinister 27 AGO 2015 a las 6:27 
TBH to the ones who use this stuff they should say thx to the devs lol.

Most game devs want to put a stop to it and do not warn the baddies abt it.. :Khappy:
JooishMadness 27 AGO 2015 a las 8:03 
Publicado originalmente por alex:
Hey!

If some of you guys think we do not know or see bots or automated catchers you are wrong.

Automated results and bot results shall be erased and users may be banned.

Please, stop using these tools before we release the fix (which is soon), because after we do you may get a permaban.

Best regards, Alex

Wow, I didn't realize fishing was so serious that people need their e-penis boost from it by using bots.
AbSlayer 27 AGO 2015 a las 11:28 
bots or automated catchers WTF is that
Not sure I understand this are you talking mouse with Macro if so REALLY you would be kicking out half your players in game I would think. That would be NUTS
Última edición por AbSlayer; 27 AGO 2015 a las 11:30
Tiberia 27 AGO 2015 a las 11:34 
Publicado originalmente por AbSlayer:
bots or automated catchers WTF is that
Not sure I understand this are you talking mouse with Macro if so REALLY you would be kicking out half your players in game I would think. That would be NUTS

No they are actually calling out a exploid that you can use with packadge editing. Where you can just send a packadge to the server (Witch the server sees and thinks you have castet multiple times) and then sen the packadge of a success strike and then the packadge of a reel in) so the whole experience is taking around 5 seconds and you have alread 4 fishes in the net.

That is what they are calling out here.
Caduryn 27 AGO 2015 a las 11:47 
Publicado originalmente por AbSlayer:
bots or automated catchers WTF is that
Not sure I understand this are you talking mouse with Macro if so REALLY you would be kicking out half your players in game I would think. That would be NUTS

Your really have no idea what Bots/Scripts/Hacks are......?
If not..... im shocked.
Wraith 27 AGO 2015 a las 13:05 
Great job Alex with monitoring cheaters and hackers :) I hope we can get rid of em soon or the tournaments will be pointless and unfair :(
internetstalker 27 AGO 2015 a las 19:57 
This better not be why i was Banned from chat and stream rights taken away, I figuredon my own, the technique required to catch a fish, my nice gaming mouse allows me to record my actual mouse movements so i can duplicate them more easily...

The only reason i found this game is because i recently rolled my semi truck over on its side due to a trailer tire popping around a 20 mph ramp and 44,000 pounds of nickel metal shifting to one side of the trailer and tipping me over. I havent been able to work and found this awesome game.

I had glass embedded deep in my hand and had to have surgery to have it all removed and get my tendons repaired... i cant be slamming my mouse over and over all day.

I had to go to the best hand surgeons in the world, Kleinert Kutz | Hand Care Center, the first people to successfully do a hand transplant because no other hospital would even attempt to help me for fear of further damaging my hand....

Furthermore there is no where to view any game rules at all..... so to my knowledge using my brain to figure out how to catch a fish then recording my own personal movement i made manually with my own hand and binding it to a button is not illegal.
Última edición por internetstalker; 27 AGO 2015 a las 20:37
internetstalker 27 AGO 2015 a las 20:11 
I would like an official responce as if this pertains to why i was chat banned and stream rights revoked.

If so, keep in mind i have all websites and forums recorded and screenshotted, and the 3rd party eula, all saved.

No way could i possibly know that using my own movement was against any rules, there are no rules for me to read.
-TwistedPretzel- 27 AGO 2015 a las 22:26 
I wonder what exactly the developers can see. I would be very interested if they could populate some kind of chart of demographics to see how many people fish each location and the fish each person catches, where they cast, and what they use. Just for information gathering to better improve the game, not just catching cheaters. Is that mechanic available to the dev's already?
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