Hornet

[Desync]

Just

[Yeti]

9.1 floro/braid/9.0 mono

[Juzt_Lernin]

Depends on the rod. I personally use 30 lb braid for everything except when I go for smaller uni's then I use the 20 lb braid.

[hunterPRO1]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Originally posted by Juzt_Lernin:

Depends on the rod. I personally use 30 lb braid for everything except when I go for smaller uni's then I use the 20 lb braid.

So 30lb will work with the hornetswarm even tho it has such a small max drag over the doublepunch? I use 32lb mono on my doublepunch

Irl there would be no problem as the drag would just slip and give out line even at max drag irl no damage happens. A major flaw in the game.

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Originally posted by Juzt_Lernin:

Depends on the rod. I personally use 30 lb braid for everything except when I go for smaller uni's then I use the 20 lb braid.

So 30lb will work with the hornetswarm even tho it has such a small max drag over the doublepunch? I use 32lb mono on my doublepunch

In both cases you are risking your reel by spooling it with line rated over its max drag and as the drag system currently works in the game it is also completely pointless as you are not applying any more than the max drag your reel is applying.

if you place line stronger than the max drag setting on any reel you are asking for trouble. The max safe drag for each reel is:

4000 = 16.25 lbs
5000 = 17.33 lbs
6000 = 18.29 lbs

at max safe drag setting of 7, going max (setting 8):

4000 = 18.70 lbs
5000 = 19.80 lbs
6000 = 20.90 lbs

If your line is stronger than your max drag you are risking the reel breaking with about 10 seconds a max pressure applied.

So if you spool a Hornet Swarm 6000 with 20, 25, 30 or 32 lb test the max safe drag applied is 18.29 lbs (no advantage at all to any of the stronger lines). The only safe line of those listed is 20lb test as it is weaker than the max drag setting for the reel so the line will break before the reel.

For the 4000 and 5000 as both have a max drag of less than 20lbs the heaviest line you can safely put on them is 16lb test.

Max drag settings for reels and max drag safe setups are available here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/380600/discussions/0/359543951720189208/

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Yea I've seen that spreadsheet before and understand exactly what you are saying, but with the DoublePunch 6500 max drag is only like 26.8 and 32lb test line really does no harm to it at all, as I run the 32lb mono line on it for that extra drag setting.

Would 30lb test really hurt the hornet swarm that bad??

If you put line on stronger than max drag of the reel and get spooled the reel will crumble into unrepairable garbage in literally about 10 seconds tops. Broken gear cannot be repaired.

As you are getting ZERO advantage from the stronger line why even chance it?

You can push the DoublePunch 6500 drag to 11 with 25lb test, no need for higher.

[Yeti]

as response to your question earlyer the 9.1 referes to kg not lbs hornet swarm 6000 is rated at 9.5kg using 9.1kg line alows you to use 1 drag seting below max using heavyer line than 9.1 with that reel will result in the reel breaking if you get striped but if you use 9.1 the line breaks before the reel
9.1kg i believe is 20lb line
you shouldnt realy use line heavyer than the max drag of a reel if you do your risking broken reels and a reel is more exphensive to replace than line is

[Yeti]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Originally posted by Deconstructed:

If you put line on stronger than max drag of the reel and get spooled the reel will crumble into unrepairable garbage in literally about 10 seconds tops. Broken gear cannot be repaired.

As you are getting ZERO advantage from the stronger line why even chance it?

You can push the DoublePunch 6500 drag to 11 with 25lb test, no need for higher.

I tried that pushing it to 11 with 30lb test and it snapped soon as the fish bit, I found I can only use 10 drag setting with 30lb or less, 32lb I can use 11 drag no problem at all.

Bug or?

sure your talking about the same reel? i believe your talking about the cyclone not double punch 30lb line on a double punch will not break before the reel breaks but on a cyclone if you put it 1 drag below max with 30lb it will break the line but if you use 32lb mono you can use 1 drag below max so are you talking about cyclone not double punch ?

[SH4D0W]

i don't understand why people cannot understand what deconstructed is saying LOL..

Using Line Heavier(specially significantly heavier) than the Reels MAX Drag will GIVE ZERO NO BENEFIT AT ALL!! FACT

Weather it is 20lb line or 30lb line if the reels max drag(not locked drag) is only 20lb than you can NEVER use that extra 10lb from the 30lb line. as the only way to start using it is to tighten the drag to max (Locked) and this will only destroy a reel..

[Yeti]

the max drag does not alter if you change lines all that alters is the chance of breaking reels if you use to heavyer line the time it takes to land a fish is irrelivent every fish reacts slightly different you might catch 3 that just come in nice and easy then get 1 that decides to spool you and if your using line heavyer than the max drag that is when you will break a reel

[Yeti]

there is no 25lb braid theres 25lb floro but aas long as your using the same drag it makes no difference exept in your head and obviously if you get spooled it will make a big difference cos the reel will break not the line now if you made a mistake and used 20lb braid then yes there will be a big difference and yes 20lb braid will break on drag 11

[Yeti]

yes floro/mono 25lb in my opinion is better mainly cos you can use drag 11 but if unlucky enough to get spooled the line will break not the reel

[Yeti]

no 1 said using the heavyest line doesnt work what were telling you is there is no point other than if you dont mind breaking reels the reel your talking about puts a max drag of 24.2 lb(drag11) so 25lb line works just as good as 30 or 32 but with 25 you will not ever break a reel if you hook a big muskie/sturgeon/uni pike where as if you use 30-32lb you will defonatly break a reel if you get stripped but at end of the day do whatever you want this is just info and its upto you what you do

[Yeti]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Originally posted by Power2theplaya:

no 1 said using the heavyest line doesnt work what were telling you is there is no point other than if you dont mind breaking reels the reel your talking about puts a max drag of 24.2 lb(drag11) so 25lb line works just as good as 30 or 32 but with 25 you will not ever break a reel if you hook a big muskie/sturgeon/uni pike where as if you use 30-32lb you will defonatly break a reel if you get stripped

Ok thanks that's what I was trying to figure out, everyone saying using 30lb braid will drag the fish in better than using the 25lb mono, even tho the reel only does so much drag.

So with the cyclone 6500 using the 32lb mono is better than the 30lb braid cause you get that 1 extra drag, correct?

yes with cyclone 6500 32lb works loveley

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wEvjycxSaVLNmVOCIZPALsPvLtxnJSz_LDcPKowAFb4/edit#gid=1987011913
this sheet makes finding the rite lines for reels a lot easyer :D theres other sheets out there too but this 1 is verry handy well worth looking at

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by Desync™:

it's a proven fact if you use 30lb braid on the DP 6500 even tho the max drag of that reel is less than 30lb you still gain 1.5lb of drag, even if you can use 11 drag with 25 and 11 drag with 30, using the 30 is proven fact by just about everyone in game the 30lb braid on the DP 6500 is better.

A proven fact in fairytail land. Math is math and the game mechanics are the game mechanics. Saying things you wish to be facts are so does not make it true.

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by Desync™:

Originally posted by Power2theplaya:

no 1 said using the heavyest line doesnt work what were telling you is there is no point other than if you dont mind breaking reels the reel your talking about puts a max drag of 24.2 lb(drag11) so 25lb line works just as good as 30 or 32 but with 25 you will not ever break a reel if you hook a big muskie/sturgeon/uni pike where as if you use 30-32lb you will defonatly break a reel if you get stripped

Ok thanks that's what I was trying to figure out, everyone saying using 30lb braid will drag the fish in better than using the 25lb mono, even tho the reel only does so much drag.

So with the cyclone 6500 using the 32lb mono is better than the 30lb braid cause you get that 1 extra drag, correct?

Correct.