Reels and amount of line it can hold?

[TurtleHermit]

I don't get it.

Example I bought a spinning reel

wincast 2500
capacity mono 8/100, braid 10/125

And I can put 6 lbs mono on it and I can get 357 feet of line on it

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/reel%201_zpsehonxbtj.jpg

Yet I bought casting reel

lowDexMg 1000 s
capacity mono 2/100, braid 4/100
I can only get 143 yards of 6 lb mono line.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/reel%202_zpsk7dqde0r.jpg

How do you tell how much line you can fit on a reel before buying it and then it turns out you can't fit much on it??

[hunterPRO1]

2/100 means 100 yards of 2lb test, monofilament and flourocarbon have the same thickness per lb, but braid is thinner per lb

so if you have 100/2 then that means 300 feet of 2lb test, but if you use 6lb then it will be less

[Tarquin_P]

The low dex has a smaller spool obviously. the /100 is meters?

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by Tarquin_P:

The low dex has a smaller spool obviously. the /100 is meters?

It is shown as yards in-game and should be (industry standard) but the devs are measuring in meters.

[TurtleHermit]

@Hunter you said: 2/100 means 100 yards of 2lb test

my reply:


So I went online to a calculator to see how many feet 100 yards is and 100 yards is 300 feet.

So I looked at another reel I have, since I have three setups so far in the game, only on level 11 going to 12.

wincast 1500
mono 3/80 , braid 6/100

Now you told me the first number is the pound of the line, second number is how many yards. So that would mean 3lbs with 80 yards i.e. 240 feet. Thing is that reel does not equal out to that, look at the pictures I have.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/Picture%2001_zpswqvfrobj.jpg

I can get on the wincast 1500 with a 4 lb mono line 243 feet which is 81 yards.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/picture%202_zpslw48xsb5.jpg

Of the 3lb mono on the wincast 1500 I can get 273 feet which is 91 yards.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/picture%203_zpsoqz1i4il.jpg

okay back to the original comment on the lowDexMg 1000 s
capacity mono 2/100

you said: 2/100 means 100 yards of 2lb test

my reply: I also went and bought some 2lb mono for that line. Now remember 100 yards is 300 feet. Want to take a guess how much 2lb line can fit on that reel??? 174 feet. picture below

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/save%20as_zps9zrcemkd.jpg


So what is going on here?????

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by my_plague12:

@Hunter you said: 2/100 means 100 yards of 2lb test

my reply:


So I went online to a calculator to see how many feet 100 yards is and 100 yards is 300 feet.

So I looked at another reel I have, since I have three setups so far in the game, only on level 11 going to 12.

wincast 1500
mono 3/80 , braid 6/100

Now you told me the first number is the pound of the line, second number is how many yards. So that would mean 3lbs with 80 yards i.e. 240 feet. Thing is that reel does not equal out to that, look at the pictures I have.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/Picture%2001_zpswqvfrobj.jpg

I can get on the wincast 1500 with a 4 lb mono line 243 feet which is 81 yards.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/picture%202_zpslw48xsb5.jpg

Of the 3lb mono on the wincast 1500 I can get 273 feet which is 91 yards.

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/picture%203_zpsoqz1i4il.jpg

Respectfully, what you told me does not seem to be accurate.

The answer is right above your reply. Would have saved you some time had you read it.

[TurtleHermit]

@deconstructed. it still doesnt come out quite right in meters either

remember it was

lowDexMg 1000 s
capacity mono 2/100, braid 4/100

If the 2 stands for 2lb line. and the 100 is meters and 100 meters in feet is 328 feet

So I should be able to get 328 feet of line on that reel

Here is that reel in the game fishing with all the 2lb line it could hold, and it tells the amount on the reel in feet FT and it holds a maximum of 272 feet

which is 56 feet less than 100 meters. 328-272= 56

http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee33/mastermajinvegeta/272_zps5mnjk1yw.jpg

Also 272 feet in meters is 82 meters so that reel doesn't hold 100 meters of line it only holds 82 meters of line.

[Deconstructed]

I don't use that reel and in fact for most setups I do not have the exact line to compare to the max but this was recently discussed here:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/380600/discussions/5/350541595114631203/

[TurtleHermit]

@deconstructed You were right I checked all reels i have bought with the line given they are accurate. Do you want to know what was wrong??

That reel

lowDexMg 1000 s
capacity mono 2/100, braid 4/100

They put the wrong number on it, that reel is an 80 meter reel and not a 100 meter reel, somebody labeled the reel wrong on the game.......

[Deconstructed]

Originally posted by my_plague12:

@
They put the wrong number on it, that reel is an 80 meter reel and not a 100 meter reel, somebody labeled the reel wrong on the game.......

Yeah, there is a bit of that in-game for sure. Some of the newer gear that came out with Alaska is the same.

[1NTIMID8R]

Also, the reel may have started out correct, but got nerfed along the way, and they didn't bother to update the description. Happens in games all the time.

[hunterPRO1]

Originally posted by 1NTIMID8R:

Also, the reel may have started out correct, but got nerfed along the way, and they didn't bother to update the description. Happens in games all the time.

very well couldve happened, either way seems like SOMETHING is messed up here

and meters would mean even more than yards (a yard is three feet a meter is a little bit more not much but alittle)


also are you sure that when adding line the slider is all the way to the right ?

[JeppeH]

It is wrong labled.
I dont know the numbers for the imperial, but the numbers for metric should be "0.1/100" to be accurate, and now it is "0.12/100". 0.12 mm line fits 83 m on the reel and a 0.1 mm fits 100 m to it.

Also (i dont know why) but for me who has metric the reel is labled "0.12/100 mono, 0.12/100 braided", when all the other reels are labled with a difference on the thickness for mono - braided, just like the OP has in his screenshot.

[Geronimo]

Every reel has it's own individual dimensions, from spool core to outer casing, etc. Even within same brand models the defining difference is usually body changes that will govern how much line can efficiently be placed on the spool. The numbers given in their descriptions arent really a capacity, but rather a suggestion of what the designer believes will provide the most dynamic reel action of that model. This does not mean the reel cant hold more than what manufacturer suggests, and in most cases players will exceed that amount in order to have enough line to play out a fish.

Also remember that a balanced setup will have a strong enough drag on the fish to keep it from taking out too much line.

Also note that various line pound tests and thicknesses will also fill each spool differently. These are compromises we make to accommodate our individual setups and fishing styles.

It is very important to use a reel with a max drag that is as close, or even a bit higher than the rods line weight, so you can use a line of almost the same weight. This way you should be able to find a reel drag setting that will put enough drag on the fish to reduce its flight distance and duration to meet with the weight parameters of the setup.

If your reel to rod setup is not balanced you will not be able to use a line weight that is near the rods line weight, which means you cant place enough drag on a fish reaching the rods weight status. This results in fish taking all your line, or line breaking because you had to put too much drag on it.
Drag tension plays a role in both line breakage and also line slack which allows fish to escape the hook. But the slack also has to do with reel recovery speed and rotation ratio.

Find a reel that will allow you to use its settings to drag a line test of near the same weight load. Some reels might have the right numbers, but after purchase you discover that its individual drag settings ate either not enough or too much.

Unfortunately only the maximum drag weight is listed in shop stats.

In summary, reels are a crucial aspect of fishing and are very complex. So understand that feeling in a fish successfully will require sufficient drag on the line strong enough to hold a fish meeting rods line weight stats, on a line as close to that weight as possible without meeting it exactly, and with the ability to reel those specifics onto that spool with as much speed as possible to avoid slack during retrieval.

If overstressed due to exceeding limits, line pound test should ensure the line breaks before anything else.

[JeppeH]

Nice necro of a +4 year old post :)