Bottom fishing seems pointless

[MagsHype]

So as a returning level 40 player who hasn't played much at all in a long time, i came back to give fishing planet a go and see what i missed out on. After playing another fishing game we won't mention that is more realistic and a fishing simulator so to speak i was hooked on bottom fishing in said game, so when i seen they added bottom fishing to fishing planet i was very happy, until i actually done it.

So my main issue here is, while bottom fishing with a 3 slot rod stand i notice a similar theme no matter the fish species. First off all the fish seem to come at once every time for the most part, meaning i have 3 rods set down on the stand, i wait, get a beep on 1 rod pick it up, next thing another rod goes off and then the 3rd one. This is absolutely fine with me although it seems super unrealistic, fish just be random when they bite, not come in waves. Looking past this small gripe i then notice i have to play musical chairs with the rods to try avoid them escaping.
While i have tried everything be it barbed hooks, making sure the line is tight before setting it down, setting it down before picking up another rod, swapping it with another rod etc, you get the picture i pretty much tried all methods, nothing seem's to work. Sometimes even after a decent fight with fish on rod 1, i set it down, line is tight and not even 20 seconds go past and it escapes.

I just can't understand how bottom fishing has been in the game so long and this simple issue has not been addressed. Can't you just have them stay hooked way more often? I mean in RL fishing, if you use a barbed hook on a fish and put it in a fishing stand, it will literally not escape unless you get unlucky. As for the whole line gets slack, ok and? How does a barbed hook slip off a fish you have been fighting with for a while suddenly slip the hook of it's mouth due to line slack? It makes absolutely no sense.

Some of you will say well if they let the fish stay on the hooks for a longer period of time we would get a lot more fish, i agree, so my suggestion to that argument is simple, lower the bite rate on bottom fishing to adjust said issue. Anyways, just my 2cents, but for what it's worth the other game we won't name, i sometimes have fish for over 30 real life minutes on stands without an issue, when one does escape it's usually a carp and it's usually fights it's way off the hook meaning not slack but tight line.

[FormerFishFarmer]

You USED to be able to juggle rods just fine, with a bit of practice and care.
They just took it out.
People were having entirely too much fun in the late game lakes.
Wish I had better news for you, but it is what it is.
I actually expect them to remove Rod Stands from the game with the next big update.
They can still be used, for the time being, to some degree, if you are catching smaller fish, mostly, as you can reel those in before the strike times out. Just don't try to switch the rod to set the hook on the other fish. You will end up loosing both of them. Just reel in the one you have as fast as possible and hope for the best.

[G.Heath]

good post! Bottom fishing is pointless...IMHO

[galaxia90]

MagsHype in RL if you put a rod in a stand while having a fish hook, it can unhook inmediatly or stay hook longer, both things can happen, what would never happen is that the fish never unhook, so that idea is well apply to the game,

[galaxia90]

MagsHype get better gear to can reel easily the fish and manage the other rod

[Red River]

I would like to hear more about that other game you won't name....

[DanoUK]

It can be done but it's a lottery. When fighting a fish on one rod and another kicks off - keep line tight on 1st rod and swap it with the 2nd rod....reel in JUST ENOUGH to ensure the hook is in well....then immediately swap back to 1st rod!
You can lose the fish on the 1st rod doing this, so if the 1st fish is a big one and the bend in the 2nd rod isn't that great....just ignore the 2nd rod.

[MagsHype]

So with all of the above responses said, does this mean i should just be sticking to single rod float or spin at this point? shame they nerfed it.

[Slam Daniels]

What I do is the same thing I do IRL basically. I use 2 rods. I bring either a float or a bottom rig, or both, depending on what I want to catch, and keep that rod on a holder while casting my main spinning rod.

Occasionally you'll miss a strike on the rod in the holder while fighting one on the spinning rig, but for the most part, it just doubles your chances of getting a bite without all the stress of juggling poles with fish on.
I never put down my rod with a fish I'm fighting to set the hook on the other rod either.
I have learned that if it is taking me that long to reel in the one on my spinning rod before the other strike times out, then the one I am fighting is more important than the random bite on my bottom rod.

Even if you want to use 5 rods at once to increase your chance of bites, you'll need to learn to forget about the other strikes while you fight the one in your hands. It's hard to watch 3 of your poles go south while you're reeling in a fish, but unfortunately the way the game is now, multiple rod fishing just increases your strike rate, but not necessarily your catch rate. I'm not saying it can't be done, but for me, it's really too much stress and aggravation to juggle rods.

Of course this is just what I do and I'm sure others are better at fish juggling than I am, but I seem to catch plenty of quality fish this way without missing a lot of strikes, and crucially, it keeps the game fun. Plus, using the tactics and techniques I use when I fish IRL is also quite satisfying for some reason.

[MagsHype]

Originally posted by Slam Daniels:

What I do is the same thing I do IRL basically. I use 2 rods. I bring either a float or a bottom rig, or both, depending on what I want to catch, and keep that rod on a holder while casting my main spinning rod.

Occasionally you'll miss a strike on the rod in the holder while fighting one on the spinning rig, but for the most part, it just doubles your chances of getting a bite without all the stress of juggling poles with fish on.
I never put down my rod with a fish I'm fighting to set the hook on the other rod either.
I have learned that if it is taking me that long to reel in the one on my spinning rod before the other strike times out, then the one I am fighting is more important than the random bite on my bottom rod.

Even if you want to use 5 rods at once to increase your chance of bites, you'll need to learn to forget about the other strikes while you fight the one in your hands. It's hard to watch 3 of your poles go south while you're reeling in a fish, but unfortunately the way the game is now, multiple rod fishing just increases your strike rate, but not necessarily your catch rate. I'm not saying it can't be done, but for me, it's really too much stress and aggravation to juggle rods.

Of course this is just what I do and I'm sure others are better at fish juggling than I am, but I seem to catch plenty of quality fish this way without missing a lot of strikes, and crucially, it keeps the game fun. Plus, using the tactics and techniques I use when I fish IRL is also quite satisfying for some reason.

Good info thanks, will give it a try

[XentroDiMentro]

Originally posted by galaxia90:

MagsHype in RL if you put a rod in a stand while having a fish hook, it can unhook inmediatly or stay hook longer, both things can happen, what would never happen is that the fish never unhook, so that idea is well apply to the game,

If you use a well sharpened barbed hook, it's extremely rare for fish to escape from it. Usually fish have to resort to arial acrobatics to attempt to release the hook.

The old system was perfect, fish would still escape if you completely ignored the rods. If you left a rod at low tension for a long enough, the fish would get off. This means that most people would effectively juggle multiple rods, which would make multi-rod fishing efficient.

In the new system the fish escape the second the line tension drops to zero. Which means that juggling rods is next to impossible as your time to react is non-existant.

This new system has two effects on the game:
- Fishing with more than 1 or 2 rods is completely pointless and a waste of bait. Especially fishing in lakes with wave spawn mechanics and hard fighting fish. (Like blue crab/amazon/weeping willow) While you are fighting a fish on rod 1, the fish on rod 2,3,4 will simply escape and steal your bait. This means that this is also a pretty big nerf to player income and xp gain.

- Barbed hooks are now pointless. The difference between barbless and barbed was always that barbless gave an XP-boost, but also increased the chance of fish escaping. In the new system fish escape instantly no matter if the hook has a barb or not. So barbless hooks are always superior due to their XP-boost. And you already guessed it, barbless hooks cost baitcoins.

[MagsHype]

Originally posted by XentroDiMentro:

Originally posted by galaxia90:

MagsHype in RL if you put a rod in a stand while having a fish hook, it can unhook inmediatly or stay hook longer, both things can happen, what would never happen is that the fish never unhook, so that idea is well apply to the game,

If you use a well sharpened barbed hook, it's extremely rare for fish to escape from it. Usually fish have to resort to arial acrobatics to attempt to release the hook.

The old system was perfect, fish would still escape if you completely ignored the rods. If you left a rod at low tension for a long enough, the fish would get off. This means that most people would effectively juggle multiple rods, which would make multi-rod fishing efficient.

In the new system the fish escape the second the line tension drops to zero. Which means that juggling rods is next to impossible as your time to react is non-existant.

This new system has two effects on the game:
- Fishing with more than 1 or 2 rods is completely pointless and a waste of bait. Especially fishing in lakes with wave spawn mechanics and hard fighting fish. (Like blue crab/amazon/weeping willow) While you are fighting a fish on rod 1, the fish on rod 2,3,4 will simply escape and steal your bait. This means that this is also a pretty big nerf to player income and xp gain.

- Barbed hooks are now pointless. The difference between barbless and barbed was always that barbless gave an XP-boost, but also increased the chance of fish escaping. In the new system fish escape instantly no matter if the hook has a barb or not. So barbless hooks are always superior due to their XP-boost. And you already guessed it, barbless hooks cost baitcoins.

Agreed, hopefully they revert

[Marshall_maz]

@OP you are 100% correct. Bottom fishing in this game is nowhere near how bottom fishing really should work. But it's intentional nerfing mechanics that the devs put in place. It won't change , might only get worse. I hate bottom fishing in this game because it is so horribly badly implemented. But that's the way it is. The devs will always implement mechanics to slow the player's progress.

[Chris]

Originally posted by Marshall_maz:

@OP you are 100% correct. Bottom fishing in this game is nowhere near how bottom fishing really should work. But it's intentional nerfing mechanics that the devs put in place. It won't change , might only get worse. I hate bottom fishing in this game because it is so horribly badly implemented. But that's the way it is. The devs will always implement mechanics to slow the player's progress.

The games been dying slowly due to incompetency on the developers side which I could do better. Since the game came out basically its been on a downhill spiral for 3-4 years at least now.

[Red River]

Originally posted by IX-9thNY(C) Pvt. Chris:

Originally posted by Marshall_maz:

@OP you are 100% correct. Bottom fishing in this game is nowhere near how bottom fishing really should work. But it's intentional nerfing mechanics that the devs put in place. It won't change , might only get worse. I hate bottom fishing in this game because it is so horribly badly implemented. But that's the way it is. The devs will always implement mechanics to slow the player's progress.

The games been dying slowly due to incompetency on the developers side which I could do better. Since the game came out basically its been on a downhill spiral for 3-4 years at least now.

it was still great one year ago when I got it... :(

[Deep]

I've just recently returned to the game.. i've been farming at blue crab island from 50-55 in a couple of days, using 3 bottom rods and 1 match rod in the 4 slot rod holder. i've been juggling fish fine... to think about it I haven't lost a fish yet when juggling rods..