Barbless Hooks?? What Why?

[MIDWEST316]

What is reason/difference between Barbless and Barbed Hooks??
How does it affect live worms bait/?

[Lenny Rat]

Truthfully, I only think they are in there to complete specific missions and challenges.

IMHO, the use of barbless hooks results in less solid hook-ups and more frequently lost fish. No other reason to use them than to complete a mission and advance the game narrative.

[xforesterx]

using barbless hooks gives more xp per fish

[Graubart]

IRL you will often run into regulatios where barbless hooks are mandatory, eg. at trout rivers in the USA. From barbless hooks you can release a fish with relatively little damage.

[Singular Fungi]

IRL the use of barbless hooks is to reduce damage to the fish when you plan on practicing catch and release. Trout have very fragile faces and jaws and barbed hooks do alot of damage to them. This results in alot of the fish dying even after being released. In reality there are very few places that actually have regulations stating that you can only use barbless tackles. In my home state there are no streams or rivers that have any such regulations and I live smack dab in the middle of trout heaven. There are however a few streams where only artificial baits are allowed, but there can be barbs on them. You also can't use any tackle that contains lead in Glacier National Park. In the game however the only practical purposes for them seem to be increased xp and challenge completion.

[76561198424369414]

Originally posted by Graubart:

IRL you will often run into regulatios where barbless hooks are mandatory, eg. at trout rivers in the USA. From barbless hooks you can release a fish with relatively little damage.

Your "facts" seem to be getting ripped to pieces every time you post something.
Clearly you have no experience either irl fishing or in the game yet, you know everything.
It's amazing.

[Singular Fungi]

Originally posted by Graubart:

Well, referring (as an example) to the Flatiron Mountains near Boulder, Colorado, USA, where I was fishing trout a few years ago. No barbed hooks allowed there. The same applies to many norwegian streams which contain wild salmon. Also in the UK you find similar restrictions. And after all, when catch and release is mandatory, it is just outright wrong to use barbed hooks, for the reasons mentioned above, by the people who backed my post instead of shredding it :-P

Next time, before being personal and spreading venom, just do your homework, ok? It backfires directly to you, if you don't. Oh, I see: With an anonymous profile that does not matter. Well, I assume you are a level 0 noob here, then. If not, proove it and lift your anonymity.
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But hey, just continue, it's always fun to read such stuff ;-)

It's very easy to cherry pick specific examples. I never said that those regulations don't exist at all in the US. I said that they are not in my state and they are far from the norm in almost all places. This means that the vast majority of the time when barbless hooks are being used by anglers it is for the conservation of species that they love and want to be around for future generations. I find the assertion that the only reason people would use barbless tackle is because they are required by law to do so to be a false assumption. The only way to even get barbless tackle around where I am is to make it yourself by pinching down the barbs with pliers. Which I and many of my friends do without being regulated to do so. We do this purely for the conservation side of things. Oh, and I like my anonymity. I have nothing to prove to you. LUL ROFL!!

[Graubart]

I was not referring to you, @Singular Fungi. I agree with you that barbless hooks (being bought or being modded) are the way to go if to protect a species. However, you clearly have not fished in many other parts of the world, where regulations *do* exist. Always remember: The USA are not the center of the world, atm they even drift away from it at high speed ;-).

Have fun with your anonymity, just don't expåect to be taken serious then, with or without proving anything :-P

[Singular Fungi]

Originally posted by Graubart:

I was not referring to you, @Singular Fungi. I agree with you that barbless hooks (being bought or being modded) are the way to go if to protect a species. However, you clearly have not fished in many other parts of the world, where regulations *do* exist. Always remember: The USA are not the center of the world, atm they even drift away from it at high speed ;-).

Have fun with your anonymity, just don't expåect to be taken serious then, with or without proving anything :-P

LOL, I never said that such regulations don't exist. I said that they are far from the norm. Go ahead and Google the places that have such regulations..........Now go ahead and Google the places that don't.......enough said I think. Funny how you accuse others constantly of personal attacks while at the same time slinging veiled insults. I never personally attacked you. All I did was point out that the assertion that the only reason most people use barbless tackle was because of being regulated by law is a false assertion. Have a nice day :)

[Graubart]

Originally posted by Singular Fungi:

Originally posted by Graubart:

I was not referring to you, @Singular Fungi. I agree with you that barbless hooks (being bought or being modded) are the way to go if to protect a species. However, you clearly have not fished in many other parts of the world, where regulations *do* exist. Always remember: The USA are not the center of the world, atm they even drift away from it at high speed ;-).

Have fun with your anonymity, just don't expåect to be taken serious then, with or without proving anything :-P

LOL, I never said that such regulations don't exist. I said that they are far from the norm. Go ahead and Google the places that have such regulations..........Now go ahead and Google the places that don't.......enough said I think. Funny how you accuse others constantly of personal attacks while at the same time slinging veiled insults. I never personally attacked you. All I did was point out that the assertion that the only reason most people use barbless tackle was because of being regulated by law is a false assertion. Have a nice day :)

And that was never stated by me either. Not sure what kind of a problem you have, and not interested btw.

[Singular Fungi]

Originally posted by Graubart:

I was not referring to you, @Singular Fungi. I agree with you that barbless hooks (being bought or being modded) are the way to go if to protect a species. However, you clearly have not fished in many other parts of the world, where regulations *do* exist. Always remember: The USA are not the center of the world, atm they even drift away from it at high speed ;-).

Have fun with your anonymity, just don't expåect to be taken serious then, with or without proving anything :-P

I'm calling you out on your bluff. Go ahead and view my profile LOL

[Graubart]

Ah, Montana, nice area :-)

Ok, nice to open your profile. However, you do not have to prove anything, as we agreed before. Neither do I, just I do not hide :-).
I suggest we get back to topic now, and that is:

Barbless hooks are used for two reasons:
1. In order to not injure fish which is potentially supposed to be released.
2. As fishing regulations sometimes require the use of them.

Have a nice day, and don't forget to adopt tp the new bite system, you won't catch much on your old spots any more. The new system is pretty good, though.

[Singular Fungi]

By Killerwhale's own admission in a recent q&a interview the spots in the american waterways haven't been changed. The fish just don't sit in every hole anymore like they did before. This effectively just means fewer fish in the exact same places as before. You have a nice day as well.

[Singular Fungi]

Oh, and fyi, when people have their profile settings set to private, it doesn't mean that they are "hiding". It means that it's none of anybody else's damn business what they are up to during the day.

[76561198424369414]

Originally posted by Singular Fungi:

The fish just don't sit in every hole anymore like they did before. This effectively just means fewer fish in the exact same places as before. You have a nice day as well.

Pike do this, they have a few spots they hunt from. When I used to go pike fishing with my dad in winter at his summer vacation spot, before fishing with live bait was banned here, he knew exactly how big any fish I caught was, because he'd fish there all the time. It goes for a lot of species but carp, for instance, do travel. Make it realistic and show me the tiny bubble trails they leave when forraging on the bottom, right? So I can lower my hook in front of it as gently as possible and hope it finds it and takes it, rinse repeat. Give me a chance to use a bare hook and a crust and pick them off the top like I used to do irl and get 10Kg+ ones with. On a 4.5 M telescopic rod with .20 line because they tire and you can actuallly get them in on light gear.
But no, the chuck it in with a crapload of bait, then fall asleep till the beep goes off and the fish has half it's cheek pulled off from the stopping weight is way more fun. :P

Originally posted by Singular Fungi:

Oh, and fyi, when people have their profile settings set to private, it doesn't mean that they are "hiding". It means that it's none of anybody else's damn business what they are up to during the day.

Thank you!! :)

[Graubart]

That's commonly called hiding :-). Ok, I am going to leave the last word to you too now, you are boring and I do not take you any serious. Have fun complaining, I go fishing instead.