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JImKappa Dec 27, 2018 @ 7:35am
BELUGA
I pay for all license all rods but i cant keep that fish is FISHING SIMULATOR NOT IRL
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moonpiespotlight Dec 27, 2018 @ 7:54pm 
Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
@moonpie There's plenty of fish that could reach 200+ lbs. Wels, tarpon, gar, sturgeon. I assumed it was the wels that would be heavier than the alligator gar.
Not in this game.
As far as endangered species go, it's just a line that a lot of people think should be held. Just because it's a game doesn't mean it should encourage the extinction of protected species. There's really not many games out there that encourage immoral behavior. To suggest that's the same thing as normal/seasonal catch restrictions is just non-sensical reaching. Bass aren't even close to endangered, and there are no seasons in FP.
The concept of "endangered species" is purely about the numbers of that species in the real world. It has absolutely nothing to do with video games where there are no issues. I haven't seen anyhting in the game even remotely suggest that people should keep 100 bass or every 50+lb blue cat they catch in the real world. There's a lot of things we do in video games that have no real world feasibility. Do you stop fishing Florida after you have 5 bass in the basket? Do you wait until the following real day to fish again or do you just foward time magically to the next peak fishing period of the following day?
I do think it would be really cool to have seasons. Prolly not worth the effort it would take for the devs though; and then, of course, people would claim it was all just some evil plot to ruin the game so the devs make more money. Cause realism isn't fun. Especially if you have the attention span of a mouse with ADHD.

If I wanted an arcade fishing game, I'd play one of the many that there are on the market.
This is an arcade fishing game like it or not. The fact you can put 500lbs of fish into a basket you can carry from peg to peg, or that anyone would pay you 800 dollars for a carp.. those are all arcade things. Getting gold coins for catching a plastic bag or catching a fish with antlers and fur, that's arcade.

Hopefully the developers know better than to try to impose real world limitations on a game such as this, like the virtual conservation ideas as a "teaching tool". No thanks. Barbless hooks were bad enough.
Last edited by moonpiespotlight; Dec 27, 2018 @ 7:57pm
Maj.Tryhard Dec 27, 2018 @ 9:18pm 
@moonpie As I already said, there's a world of difference between only keeping 5 bass a day, which is a regulation in place to keep healthy bass numbers despite the fact that they are flourishing in lakes all over the continent, and restricting somebody from keeping an endangered animal, which was overfished almost to extinction, and no longer exists in many places that it once did. They're still heavily poached today, even though it's illegal to harvest them.

Obviously, it's not gonna deplete the real world stock to catch them in a game, but I fully support having them as a respected, edangered species. I wouldn't want to hunt a Scottish wildcat or an Amur leopard in a game either. You may think the conservation ideals are ridiculous, but I don't. I have a son, and I hope some day he'll care more about killing wildlife than most people do now, otherwise, his kids might not ever get to see a sturgeon or an alligator gar. This is a game that could be acceptable for a younger audience, and as far as subliminal messaging goes, "don't kill what you don't need to" sounds like a pretty good message to me.

As far as the balance of realism to arcad(ism?) FP is far more realistic than most other fishing games available on Steam. The majority of fishing games are incredibly unrealistic in every way, at least this game has some simulator qualities in it. I don't know of any other game that has any sense of realism with a decent selection of fish. Maybe some carp simulators out there that are more realistic, but I tire of fishing the same species endlessly.

I actually made a comment about the lack of realism with the 660lb net the other day, but the community opinion is overwhelming that people want the biggest nets possible, since most people think a bigger net means more money. And obviously, it's ridiculous that somebody would pay you 800 for a carp or pike, but these are simple game mechanics that allow for the accumulation of money and XP, and I certainly don't want to invest the time it would take to buy and maintain equipment in a game where a carp was only worth ten cents. In reality, there's no such thing as XP or skill trees.

There's already TONS of people complaining that the game is too financially strict as is. Most people want a carp to be worth twice as much, the licenses to cost half as much, and to be given magical gold coins for catching a particularly big fish. As far as event fish, I don't partake in those types of things usually, but they're very popular with many of the veterans who like a seasonal change of pace.

I would completely support there being a completely realistic in-game economy, except for one problem. For the majority of us that fish in real life, fishing doesn't make you money, it costs you money. So, at that point, this would be just like theHunter, where you make no money at all, and are required to just endlessly dump money into the game.
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gidro Dec 27, 2018 @ 11:46pm 
i don't really care about selling them, lvl 46 you don't really need the credits anyway.

But if what other players said is true, that you can catch many of them in a single day, how stupid is that ?! First, they're supposed to be rare, that's why they're protected in the first place right ? And two, where's the amazement of catching something special, if it's more common than other fish ?

It's the biggest fish in the game ATM ! Before the update, i hoped it would be something you can get on rare occasions, as a good surprise, while fishing for something else. No weather, spot or timeframe, the kind of thing you'll tell to other fisherman in the chat "wow yesterday i caught a beluga"... If you have to look for it specifically and catch it all the time, i'm not interested. At this point, it sounds as exciting as catching a uni blue catfish.... yeah it's big, so what ?!
moonpiespotlight Dec 28, 2018 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
@moonpie As I already said, there's a world of difference between only keeping 5 bass a day, which is a regulation in place to keep healthy bass numbers despite the fact that they are flourishing in lakes all over the continent, and restricting somebody from keeping an endangered animal, which was overfished almost to extinction, and no longer exists in many places that it once did. They're still heavily poached today, even though it's illegal to harvest them.

Obviously, it's not gonna deplete the real world stock to catch them in a game, but I fully support having them as a respected, edangered species. I wouldn't want to hunt a Scottish wildcat or an Amur leopard in a game either. You may think the conservation ideals are ridiculous, but I don't. I have a son, and I hope some day he'll care more about killing wildlife than most people do now, otherwise, his kids might not ever get to see a sturgeon or an alligator gar. This is a game that could be acceptable for a younger audience, and as far as subliminal messaging goes, "don't kill what you don't need to" sounds like a pretty good message to me.
How about "don't hook, tire and drag an endangered species onto the bank of a river you flew thousands of miles and spent thousands of dollars just to fish for that specific endangered animal. If it's so important to pass along a moral message through a video game, just say leave the endangered species alone. You're not over there accidentally hooking them.
As far as the balance of realism to arcad(ism?) FP is far more realistic than most other fishing games available on Steam. The majority of fishing games are incredibly unrealistic in every way, at least this game has some simulator qualities in it. I don't know of any other game that has any sense of realism with a decent selection of fish. Maybe some carp simulators out there that are more realistic, but I tire of fishing the same species endlessly.
I don't know where it sits on the slider bar between Boeing flight simulator and Nintendo Duck Hunt, but it's certainly got enough arcade features to not consider it a simulator, although the hours of wating lately at the new lakes seems pretty realistic. Regardless, you feel it's better than the others. OK. That doesn't change what it really is - a FTP game with micro transactions and a grind wall for new players that seems to keep getting thicker as time passes. The point is that once you start down the "moral lesson in a video game" path, you'll lose most of the players instantly. No one wants to be dad-preached at about the outdoors in their FTP video game. That was run into the ground already and broken off in that scam of a hunting game.
I actually made a comment about the lack of realism with the 660lb net the other day, but the community opinion is overwhelming that people want the biggest nets possible, since most people think a bigger net means more money. And obviously, it's ridiculous that somebody would pay you 800 for a carp or pike, but these are simple game mechanics that allow for the accumulation of money and XP, and I certainly don't want to invest the time it would take to buy and maintain equipment in a game where a carp was only worth ten cents. In reality, there's no such thing as XP or skill trees.
We already had a 660lb net that we bought with real money in a DLC. It was removed from us when gold was altered. Now it's back for sale again. People want a bigger net because they can fill theirs by 8am on most days. If they had 50% more capacity they'd increase their income.
There's already TONS of people complaining that the game is too financially strict as is. Most people want a carp to be worth twice as much, the licenses to cost half as much, and to be given magical gold coins for catching a particularly big fish. As far as event fish, I don't partake in those types of things usually, but they're very popular with many of the veterans who like a seasonal change of pace.
I don't know where this is going. Beluga aren't going to die IRL and the world isn't going to think it's ok to kill endangered species just because a FTP game allows you to "sell" them.
I would completely support there being a completely realistic in-game economy, except for one problem. For the majority of us that fish in real life, fishing doesn't make you money, it costs you money. So, at that point, this would be just like theHunter, where you make no money at all, and are required to just endlessly dump money into the game.
Regardless of what you wish were the case, I am talking about what is the case. There have been similar suggestions in the past where trout had to be released within X amount of time to preserve the fish.

I don't think a lot of kids are playing this game. They don't have the patience for it.
moonpiespotlight Dec 28, 2018 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by gidro:
i don't really care about selling them, lvl 46 you don't really need the credits anyway.

But if what other players said is true, that you can catch many of them in a single day, how stupid is that ?! First, they're supposed to be rare, that's why they're protected in the first place right ? And two, where's the amazement of catching something special, if it's more common than other fish ?

It's the biggest fish in the game ATM ! Before the update, i hoped it would be something you can get on rare occasions, as a good surprise, while fishing for something else. No weather, spot or timeframe, the kind of thing you'll tell to other fisherman in the chat "wow yesterday i caught a beluga"... If you have to look for it specifically and catch it all the time, i'm not interested. At this point, it sounds as exciting as catching a uni blue catfish.... yeah it's big, so what ?!
I don't need to sell them either, but don't put a price on them if they cannot be sold. It seems like a future unlockable if it has a market value.
moonpiespotlight Dec 28, 2018 @ 12:58am 
Originally posted by Jim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TcIOMzBjI 2 in same time
Cool. Is there a reason you kept switching back and forth between rods? Can't you bring one in and then the other?
[FR] chey Dec 28, 2018 @ 2:45am 
Originally posted by moonpiespotlight:
Originally posted by Jim:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8TcIOMzBjI 2 in same time
Cool. Is there a reason you kept switching back and forth between rods? Can't you bring one in and then the other?

he keep switching rod, coz the multi rod fishing is still not working as it should be atm, so if you don't switch to use both rod, you will lose all fishs, not like RF4 where you can let a fish bite forever on other rod while you are reel in the first fish and this must be fixed to really enjoy rod pod fishing in FP.
XentroDiMentro Dec 28, 2018 @ 3:31am 
Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
There's really not many games out there that encourage immoral behavior. To suggest that's the same thing as normal/seasonal catch restrictions is just non-sensical reaching. Bass aren't even close to endangered, and there are no seasons in FP.

How about every single shooter? Games like GTA? I also think your morals are horrendously wrong if you think that taking life is fine just because a rules states its a "common species".

Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
If I wanted an arcade fishing game, I'd play one of the many that there are on the market.

and here you are, playing fishing planet instead of russian fishing 4. Choosing to dislike the factually better simulator for the arcade game fishing planet.

Originally posted by Leadmagnet:
They mave have just decided to skip all the "omg you ain't pc" trash they'd catch from social media by including endangered species as something you can keep. Would have been better off to just not put it in the game to start with. Of course not including it; you'd end up with the circus the Call of the Wild has by skipping almost all of the iconic animals in their African map.

Damned if you do & damned if you don't.

I disagree actually, not only has fishing planet become far too small of game for any social media to care (due to decisions like this). Other fishing games have plenty of fish in them that should be handled differently under certain circumstances. Nonbody cared/cares.

Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
I have a son, and I hope some day he'll care more about killing wildlife than most people do now, otherwise, his kids might not ever get to see a sturgeon or an alligator gar.

PSA, teach your kids that moving pixels and doing something in real life are vastly different things. I also hope you teach your kid that morals dont come from following written rules. It's absurd to think that taking someone's/some animals life can be justified by a written rule. Thinking its fine to kill multiple bass, just because "there is plenty of them". Nice morals.

Originally posted by Maj.Tryhard:
I don't know of any other game that has any sense of realism with a decent selection of fish.

haha. Ignorance is bliss i guess.
Last edited by XentroDiMentro; Dec 28, 2018 @ 3:33am
Trulight911 Dec 28, 2018 @ 3:32am 
The multi rod fishing is working exactly as intended if you got one on the hook you can set it down and grab another one you got a bite on. The one that you return to the rod holder will stay hooked. So you can have 3 fish all with set hooks on the rod holder and bring them all in.

This is provided your in time setting the hook on every single rod that goes off.
Last edited by Trulight911; Dec 28, 2018 @ 3:34am
Ludaska Dec 28, 2018 @ 3:38am 
I find this discussion about not harvesting endangered species in a game because it spreads the wrong message so amusing. What about games where you actually shoot people and you're encouraged to do so. What kind of message that sends ? All our kids will become killers IRL sometime in the future because they played shooter games ? I don' think so. Even is some will become criminals it will be other factors involved mostly, not video games.

Same thing goes with fishing, if I harvest a fish that is endangered in the game it doesn't mean I will do it in real life. In fact I can live my fantasies in the game and that keeps me from actually going to kill of any endangered animal.

BTW, in theHunter you can kill polar bears which are also protected. There was also alot of complaining there about this, which is also funny because no one complains about games where you kill people.
XentroDiMentro Dec 28, 2018 @ 4:23am 
Originally posted by Trulight911:
The multi rod fishing is working exactly as intended if you got one on the hook you can set it down and grab another one you got a bite on. The one that you return to the rod holder will stay hooked. So you can have 3 fish all with set hooks on the rod holder and bring them all in.

This is provided your in time setting the hook on every single rod that goes off.

Hmm, pretty arcady but oke. I mean when a fish starts running through my drag, the force of that alone will set the hook in its mouth. But i guess we are still required to hit RMB.

Seeing as Maj.Tryhard has alot to say about simulation im sure he'll have something to say about this too. ^^

Is multirod fishing with bobber rods being looked into aswell? A musky can casually run though my 20kg drag and not get hooked? The speed at which you have to hook fish seems kinda crazy too, seeing as i usually have to respond within 0.3/0.4 seconds before getting bait was eaten or lost.
Trulight911 Dec 28, 2018 @ 4:47am 
Originally posted by XentroDiMentro:
Originally posted by Trulight911:
The multi rod fishing is working exactly as intended if you got one on the hook you can set it down and grab another one you got a bite on. The one that you return to the rod holder will stay hooked. So you can have 3 fish all with set hooks on the rod holder and bring them all in.

This is provided your in time setting the hook on every single rod that goes off.

Hmm, pretty arcady but oke. I mean when a fish starts running through my drag, the force of that alone will set the hook in its mouth. But i guess we are still required to hit RMB.

Seeing as Maj.Tryhard has alot to say about simulation im sure he'll have something to say about this too. ^^

Is multirod fishing with bobber rods being looked into aswell? A musky can casually run though my 20kg drag and not get hooked? The speed at which you have to hook fish seems kinda crazy too, seeing as i usually have to respond within 0.3/0.4 seconds before getting bait was eaten or lost.
Yeah xen they are most definatly looking at the finer point of things and making tweaks. They upped the probability of autohooks as well as somewhat of a relief to this, we'll see what they do further after that.

I do know that even the "autohook" feature only allows you more time to get to the rod, you still have to set the hook. We suggestd in testing the probability of the fish hooking itself on the holder, they met us in the middle, by giving more time.

As far as arcady bro, fine line, i don't make the end choices, can only reccomend, and help people with how the mechanics are working :)

tight lines.
Last edited by Trulight911; Dec 28, 2018 @ 4:48am
etienne.bruere Dec 28, 2018 @ 6:39am 
The licence tells that you can keep fishes without limitations.
moonpiespotlight Dec 28, 2018 @ 9:08am 
Originally posted by FR chey:
Originally posted by moonpiespotlight:
Cool. Is there a reason you kept switching back and forth between rods? Can't you bring one in and then the other?

he keep switching rod, coz the multi rod fishing is still not working as it should be atm, so if you don't switch to use both rod, you will lose all fishs, not like RF4 where you can let a fish bite forever on other rod while you are reel in the first fish and this must be fixed to really enjoy rod pod fishing in FP.
I undestand setting the hook and making sure the fish is hooked. Maybe different users have different experiences, but I am able to set the hook on a fish and put the rod down, it won't get off unless the fish is too close to shore at whicm time the lost bait message appears.
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