ANTI-CHEAT PATCH

[Housebug]

So.... I would like to ask how much of a problem it would be to put a anti-cheat patch during tourneys? Seem to me we have ALOT of HACKERS during game play and there isnt no way those scores they have are rediculous High. I think these hackers SHOULD BE BAN, ruining the fun for other.

[EzFishLure]

Can you give an example of how one would hack this game during tournaments? The only reason I am asking for an example is because I play another online game where people are constantly screaming "cheater, hacker, etc" but none of them can explain how it is done; therefore, it could just be a sour grapes complaint (courtesy of ESOP's fables).

[Bertie Bunyip]

Originally posted by LordDarkHelmet:

Originally posted by EzFishLure:

Can you give an example of how one would hack this game during tournaments? The only reason I am asking for an example is because I play another online game where people are constantly screaming "cheater, hacker, etc" but none of them can explain how it is done; therefore, it could just be a sour grapes complaint (courtesy of ESOP's fables).

used to be an auto set hook cheat where any nibble the fish was on no matter what and many other cheats like going under the water , showing spawn zones and more , There's a certain clan that i won't say since i hope most of the cheaters moved on but from this one clan about 6 or more where banned and the leader was the main cheater , all the old timers know who i'm talking about lol. Also botting. The only way they get caught is if they look at said persons account since everything is server side.

Ok you mentioned two things: auto set hook and botting. Now, if everything is server side (as you suggested), then they (the client) can't do any hacking. However, I believe that auto set hook must be client side and it is purely mimicking what you would do (with a controller or keys) in an automated (illegal) way. Also, your plain and simple "botting" statement is too vague and general in nature. I have seen many games with bots and they are not intended to win games because they are generally useless in gameplay due to the complexities of making a bot a star player. For example, in a popular online tank game, bots appear from time to time, and their general purpose has been advertising. So, if that auto set hook still works, then maybe that would give someone an edge but I'm guessing the author hasn't kept up with the game changes.

[darrren]

i think a lot of the acusations come from players that cant seem to understand that if youve compleated a lot of comps and found the hot spots then coming in top 10 alot of the time isnt throu cheating its throu experience and hard work(a lot of the players coming in top ten all the time are experienced)im ot saying it doesnt happen
but with 140 hours game play in other games is a lot but in this game 140 hours youve hardly scratched the surfice and i can almost certanly say you havnt got enough comp experience to beat the ones with thousands of hours in just comps :D

[darrren]

Originally posted by EzFishFinder:

Originally posted by LordDarkHelmet:

used to be an auto set hook cheat where any nibble the fish was on no matter what and many other cheats like going under the water , showing spawn zones and more , There's a certain clan that i won't say since i hope most of the cheaters moved on but from this one clan about 6 or more where banned and the leader was the main cheater , all the old timers know who i'm talking about lol. Also botting. The only way they get caught is if they look at said persons account since everything is server side.

Ok you mentioned two things: auto set hook and botting. Now, if everything is server side (as you suggested), then they (the client) can't do any hacking. However, I believe that auto set hook must be client side and it is purely mimicking what you would do (with a controller or keys) in an automated (illegal) way. Also, your plain and simple "botting" statement is too vague and general in nature. I have seen many games with bots and they are not intended to win games because they are generally useless in gameplay due to the complexities of making a bot a star player. For example, in a popular online tank game, bots appear from time to time, and their general purpose has been advertising. So, if that auto set hook still works, then maybe that would give someone an edge but I'm guessing the author hasn't kept up with the game changes.

over a year ago there was a programe(a bot i guess) that would auto do different retrieves and the devs did at the time reconize the players using it and ban them. but they also banned a lot of innocent players too at the time so im preety sure they still check for cheats as good as they can :D

[DanoUK]

Look at the main competition winners and top 10. 9 times out of 10 they're Russian/Ukrainians, German or Brazilian ultra fishers.

One winner the other day (Russian I think) has 3,800 unique fish caught.....I have 720 something and fished 1300 hours since the start. Kinda tells you that he does a LOT of fishing in this game, or cheating? I dunno, but I do know if I ever bother to enter comp's that I have no illusions at all that I'll ever win with those kind of people in it too!

[richardmuller]

The interesting observation in the first qualifier of the recent competition, a player arrived and within 5 minutes (Real time) had landed 8 fish, all uniques and trophies, cemented 2nd spot and left. If he was in game for 10 minutes, it was a lot.

[Bertie Bunyip]

Originally posted by darrren:

i think a lot of the acusations come from players that cant seem to understand that if youve compleated a lot of comps and found the hot spots then coming in top 10 alot of the time isnt throu cheating its throu experience and hard work(a lot of the players coming in top ten all the time are experienced)im ot saying it doesnt happen
but with 140 hours game play in other games is a lot but in this game 140 hours youve hardly scratched the surfice and i can almost certanly say you havnt got enough comp experience to beat the ones with thousands of hours in just comps :D

I sort of lean towards darren's logic as the reason why some people win much more than others.

Originally posted by richardmuller:

The interesting observation in the first qualifier of the recent competition, a player arrived and within 5 minutes (Real time) had landed 8 fish, all uniques and trophies, cemented 2nd spot and left. If he was in game for 10 minutes, it was a lot.

This type of action could signal some foul play at work; however, when I go to Alaska, and I watch the very top two players in this game, they land nothing but unis until they are exhausted. It is amazing because they know exactly where to fish at any given time of day and/or weather condition to catch those unis pronto. So, I try to do the exact same thing? NADA

[FraggleRock]

The developers already have an 'anti cheat software' running on the game.

[EzFishLure]

Originally posted by ◬ illuminati ◬:

Originally posted by CycleDave:

The developers already have an 'anti cheat software' running on the game.

Yes but it doesn't work it seems.

And it never will because it cannot detect client-side hacks. An example is that auto set hook thing. The script is run on the client side, and to the server, it just appears like normal keys are being pressed (the same as always). So, whatever is happening, if anything, they have no way to detect it or stop it, if it is being done via a client-side script.

[Housebug]

Originally posted by EzFishLure:

Can you give an example of how one would hack this game during tournaments? The only reason I am asking for an example is because I play another online game where people are constantly screaming "cheater, hacker, etc" but none of them can explain how it is done; therefore, it could just be a sour grapes complaint (courtesy of ESOP's fables).

If I knew, I would give an EXAMPLE

[Housebug]

Originally posted by CycleDave:

The developers already have an 'anti cheat software' running on the game.

They Do???

[Housebug]

Seems like this Subject isnt getting NO WHERE, more like P.i.s.s.i.n.g. IN THE WIND

[LionelCG]

Afaik in the big tournaments like the gars glory cup they manually check each player who advances to the next round for cheats&hacks. Also due to lots of accusations many of the top tournament players have been checked in the past, some of them banned for cheating but most of them without any result.

If you take the helloween event people complain about not catching the event gars. I had bad luck too a couple of nights but I tried again and now I catch 5+ fish in one night. There are even spots and setups where you only get the eventfish to bite without wasting your event lures. But then again if you ask someone and they don´t catch like you do due to not casting on spot, fishing in the wrong time/weather or simple bad RNG then you are the bad guy/cheater. So I never tell "use this bait, that depth, that hook" if I´m asked but I rather tell a range for all the variables.

To wrap it up I think that most of the top tournament players have earned their success by investing lots of time into the game and I am OK with it.

[LionelCG]

Originally posted by LordDarkHelmet:

If you suspect email support they can look at the account and then see if they're i've done this and have found out i was correct and they were hacking according to the dev i was talking too , that's one way if you think a person is hacking , since cheat detection isn't 100% .

I think there is something missing in your long sentence. If I got it right, you reported someone and they checked it and banned him for cheating. If someone is obviously cheating like the guy mentioned before catching a couple of uniques in five minutes then thumbs up to the people who report such guys. Those people who really cheat imo have no skill and no life to live.

[Kim ☆ (Didgelz)]

I joined a comp today. One clan ALWAYS AT THE TOP and straight off the bat catching uniques EZ. Yet half an hour before the game none of them had any clue where to catch these certain fish then as soon as the comp starts they say nothing and Immediately catching uniques GG.