Retrieve methods not working after patch 0.7.11

[Polar Beer]

Any retrieve method I attempt, twitch, stop go, lift drop, has the same result..straight slow.

[Stonehill]

does this happen with all different Lures?

[Pio Dorco]

Same for me, i tried with every lure, lift&drop and twitching both act as straight and straight slow and more than 1 dot in stop&go is impossible.
only straight works but to have a steady straight now i have to spend a lot of credits to rebuild all my setup due to reeling speeds not matching anymore.
Tanks devs!

[jib1000]

How is this different than before patch .7.11?

[Polar Beer]

Originally posted by Stonehill:

does this happen with all different Lures?

Yes, with different lures.

[ControlledKaoz]

I am having the same issue. Not sure why or how it got broken. But it did.

[FreddieHue]

I posted about this in the bug forum. Here's the conversation between me and another player. Apparently the physics changes have made the presentation/retreive techniques a little more difficult. Nikos believes there may be some tweaks to the physics later.

Originally posted by Nikos:
Originally posted by FreddieHue:
Is anyone else having problems with lure presentation since the update? Try as I might, I can only get one dot when performing Lift&Drop as well as Stop&Start. I've tried this with different rod/reel/lure combinations on two different maps (Saint Croix, Michigan and Emerald Lake, New York) and cannot get more than one dot. Before the update I could perform those presentations at 3 dots with very little difficulty. Will this be fixed or is it working as intended?
The physics have changed an will probably be tweaked a little.

I can now do all with 3 dots most of the time.
(Slow) straight is easy;
Stop & Go easy to try to get the rhythm;
Lift & Drop is the hardest, get the lure on the bottom. Then strike and at the end of the strike let loose and reel in while the rod goes down. When the rod is down and the lure at the bottom strike again.

Thanks, Nikos. I've actually gotten 2 dots on lift/drop now and it seems there's just a bit of a learning curve with the new physics. I reached level 40+3 with the techniques I was using, time to relearn them I guess.

[Eddbanger]

Originally posted by jib1000:

How is this different than before patch .7.11?

hi Jib before the 0.7.11 we could get lift and drop and stop and go to work and get three dots the physics beta was running and in that the devs killerwhale was adjusting the settings to try and get the straight slow to work, for bullets and single spoons ... but the beta didn't work as it it sacrificed all other methods of retrieve like, lift and drop and, stop and go ...for straight and straight slow ... so the beta failed, the line seemed to be better but overall had worse results and people was commenting to say as much, but they used the failed beta anyway ... it's a really bad trade off to loose lift and drop and stop and go for slow straight just before a tournament with no time to adapt to the new settings (they should have done an immediate rollback)

We also had straight before the update and was catching ... that's how its different to before ... the fishing game was working as the best fishing game in the world and everything worked as of the introduction of alaska and the anniversary dlc ... it now feels like its being ruined or sabotaged for some reason ... ? its very sad it was really great and realistic at that stage I got 4 dlc around that time only to have them nerfed along with my favorite game :( level 40 rank 20 over 1040 baitcoins all unlimited license 600,000 credits and two of everything in the store ... and nothing to buy or fish for ... paid for the comp but not bothered fishing ... age 56 fished in real life 48 year all methods but very travel sick so no boats unfortunately ...

I dont feel the avatars are needed as I have them switched of but if they are the reason for the software switch in physics get rid of them and roll back to alaska introduction and change rename gold to baitcoins and change the gold icon to baitcoin and if you must stop coin rewards for uniques at the alaska time it was introduced .. sorry for the long reply m8

[Johnny]

The 3 Dot retrieves do still work. You just have to alter how you used to do the presentation. I spent some time today working on each one and was able to figure them out. Tight lines!

[jib1000]

Originally posted by Eddbanger:

Originally posted by jib1000:

How is this different than before patch .7.11?

hi Jib before the 0.7.11 we could get lift and drop and stop and go to work and get three dots the physics beta was running and in that the devs killerwhale was adjusting the settings to try and get the straight slow to work, for bullets and single spoons ... but the beta didn't work as it it sacrificed all other methods of retrieve like, lift and drop and, stop and go ...for straight and straight slow ... so the beta failed, the line seemed to be better but overall had worse results and people was commenting to say as much, but they used the failed beta anyway ... it's a really bad trade off to loose lift and drop and stop and go for slow straight just before a tournament with no time to adapt to the new settings (they should have done an immediate rollback)

We also had straight before the update and was catching ... that's how its different to before ... the fishing game was working as the best fishing game in the world and everything worked as of the introduction of alaska and the anniversary dlc ... it now feels like its being ruined or sabotaged for some reason ... ? its very sad it was really great and realistic at that stage I got 4 dlc around that time only to have them nerfed along with my favorite game :( level 40 rank 20 over 1040 baitcoins all unlimited license 600,000 credits and two of everything in the store ... and nothing to buy or fish for ... paid for the comp but not bothered fishing ... age 56 fished in real life 48 year all methods but very travel sick so no boats unfortunately ...

I dont feel the avatars are needed as I have them switched of but if they are the reason for the software switch in physics get rid of them and roll back to alaska introduction and change rename gold to baitcoins and change the gold icon to baitcoin and if you must stop coin rewards for uniques at the alaska time it was introduced .. sorry for the long reply m8

Curious to know how you did this. The last (what is it now, 3 patches?) have had the physics so messed up for me all i have been able to use is float rigs or crankbaits. Anything requiring ANY retrieval method other than straight has been impossible. The physics in this update are the first ones where i can actually fish all the retrival methods like i could before the physics broke 6 months ago.

[Eddbanger]

hi Jib last week or two It may have been, that I was catching and filling the net daily in lures with stop and go and lift and drop at Alaska not as good as when the alaska water was introduced then it was really great .... but last week before any of the latest updates, and it was whilst the physics beta was running, I tried the beta at the same time as Gregs post on the heavy lure post and gave it a try, I could catch but it was highly focused in straight and straight slow even when doing an exaggerated lift and drop at still showed straight slow and straight in the beta, same with the stop and go with my gear so I used the bullets and single spoons I did catch but they was still acting heavier then when i got the anniversary dlc the fishing and the lures and waters all worked great then ;) but now they act very heavy it seemed as if the lure was on a timer to get to the bottom so if I casted upstream say 50m it stayed mid water for 20 m say for about 6 seconds mid water then it sunk to the bottom .. I reeled in quick to raise the lure to the surface and put my reel back on speed on whilst the lure was in the upper and mid water it sank immediately in a couple of seconds say 5m instead of the 20 m it should have took to equal the first casted retrieve, its as if it had different settings and buoyancy and acted heavier the closer to the to the bank edge it got say 30m to 0m
I put the reel on 4 and raised it to the top and it sunk in 5m on the same retrieve speed 1 so it seemed not to act the same once it hit the bottom, it seemed heavier the rest of the way in struggling to get it of the bottom speed 1 the lure not working like the first 20m after the cast

( I know what you're thinking just cast out 20 m and it'll work lol )

anyway after the cast , after casting in staying mid water it should act the same in the same current if brought up to the surface, it should act the same as the first time it hit the surface and started sinking with the same sink rate with same settings gear and reel speed and flow so i quickly reverted back and enjoyed catching with lift and drop and stop and go lol ... I used to fish an early online fishing game and the optimum patch was f11b where everybody catched but some caught better fish but everybody was catching and happy well after a few tweaks and patches and a dev upset and another game to develope something like patch f13 h the game was really hard and virtually unplayable the joy had gone out of it and it just was made to hard waiting hours to catch and hours waiting for a 1 catfish to bite could take a whole day lol.. that was when the developer had enough and left the game with a torrid hard patch .... maybe we could ask the devs for an easy normal casual setting with how the bites and game was on the introduction of alaska and log in on easy or casual link and server for casual players who only can spend an hour or so ( gosh give them a setting to smile and catch a lot of fish in this time frame and have a great time and have a good time catching a lot of fish with a free ff then

a harder pro login for matches and tournaments on these settings it would be harder with all these nerfed bite restricted edited waters not fishing as good as they used to and low bite settings ... for hard settings that's great for and match s comps , tournaments and team fishing
the pro setting could give high rewards and cash bitcoins and the casual could buy everything with in game credit like unlimited licence or maybe up money just casual fishing open waters without the cash grind .. phew Ignore me I'm old lol

I will be able to adjust but might just wait and see where the next few patches go first
I was addicted to this game for the joy of catching fish but the harder its got has made it easier to leave the game for a while I have everything so not really any incentive to grind on

will be back for feeder bottom lakebed fishing but it would be great to fly fish alaska with fly gear ... tight lines everyone cheers