The game is way too similar to Dead Space (SPOILERS)

[SneerfulOwl]

I though I was playing Dead Space in isometric view with puzzle.

Protagonist wakes up looks for his family, his entire journey starts for his family (Isaac Clarke goes to Ishimura to looks for his wife, his journey starts to look for his wife)
Hybrids running amok killing everything (Necromorphs running amok and killing everything on the ship)
Gloomlake is infected with weird fungus (Ishimura is infected with weird fleshy necromorph stuffs)
Crews of Gloomlake are infected and goes crazy and attack each other (Ishimura crews goes berserk and murder each other or commit mass suicides)
The doctor is crazy and caused all this (Ishimura doctor is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obsessed with necromorph infection to the point where he no longer cares about the entire ship getting infected)
You are later betrayed by the same woman who has been helping you the entire game near the end (This is exactly what happens in Dead Space near the end)

I don't know if the writer decided to watch Alien and binge played Dead Space series and decided to write a similar story, but the resemblance is way too uncanny.

[The Brotherhood]

We are big fans of Deadspace -in fact, the makers of Deadspace are fans of Stasis - if you check their twitter they even tweeted this:) We did not intend to copy any story, these plot devices are well known tropes in the sci-fi world and we draw inspiration from the same source materials, 80's horror and scifi films, 50s,60s,70's scifi novels.

[SneerfulOwl]

Originally posted by ChrisBischoff:

We are big fans of Deadspace -in fact, the makers of Deadspace are fans of Stasis - if you check their twitter they even tweeted this:) We did not intend to copy any story, these plot devices are well known tropes in the sci-fi world and we draw inspiration from the same source materials, 80's horror and scifi films, 50s,60s,70's scifi novels.

I understand that they are well known tropes, but I just couldn't help but see the similarities. Dead Space guys got their inspirations for their story from Alien and The Thing. But some of the stuffs that are in Stasis (like fungus and crews getting infected) were unnecessary to the overall story, since they pretty much weren't essential part of the game or story and it just made the game look similar to Dead Space...

[Vilmer Slaughter]

The funny thing here, is that you fail to point out the fact the Dead Space itself was just a rip off of other material. I could go on and list how Dead Space was just a knock off of System Shock 2 in the same manner you did for this game.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Necromorphs running amok and killing everything on the ship

Hybrids running amok and killing everything on the Rickenbacker and Von Braun. Check.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura is infected with weird fleshy necromorph stuffs

Biomass has spread through both ships and created all kinds of lovely fleshy things. Check.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura crews goes berserk and murder each other or commit mass suicides

Oh guess what, both crews of the RB and V.B. experienced this too!

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura doctor is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obsessed with necromorph infection to the point where he no longer cares about the entire ship getting infected

Dr. Marc Miller reporting in for crazy-doesn't-give-two-♥♥♥♥♥ about everyone duty!

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

You are later betrayed by the same woman who has been helping you the entire game near the end (This is exactly what happens in Dead Space near the end)

Polito/Shodan, anyone?

Did these similarities stop me from enjoying Dead Space? Nope. Did I ever once go and tell the team behind Dead Space (part of the evil EA machine) that they copied what I consider to be one of the best horror games ever made? Nope.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Dead Space guys got their inspirations for their story from Alien and The Thing.

And because I am being a nit-picking jerk at this point, you forgot to mention Event Horizon.

[SneerfulOwl]

Originally posted by Chex LeMeneux:

The funny thing here, is that you fail to point out the fact the Dead Space itself was just a rip off of other material. I could go on and list how Dead Space was just a knock off of System Shock 2 in the same manner you did for this game.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Necromorphs running amok and killing everything on the ship

Hybrids running amok and killing everything on the Rickenbacker and Von Braun. Check.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura is infected with weird fleshy necromorph stuffs

Biomass has spread through both ships and created all kinds of lovely fleshy things. Check.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura crews goes berserk and murder each other or commit mass suicides

Oh guess what, both crews of the RB and V.B. experienced this too!

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Ishimura doctor is so ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obsessed with necromorph infection to the point where he no longer cares about the entire ship getting infected

Dr. Marc Miller reporting in for crazy-doesn't-give-two-♥♥♥♥♥ about everyone duty!

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

You are later betrayed by the same woman who has been helping you the entire game near the end (This is exactly what happens in Dead Space near the end)

Polito/Shodan, anyone?

Did these similarities stop me from enjoying Dead Space? Nope. Did I ever once go and tell the team behind Dead Space (part of the evil EA machine) that they copied what I consider to be one of the best horror games ever made? Nope.

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Dead Space guys got their inspirations for their story from Alien and The Thing.

And because I am being a nit-picking jerk at this point, you forgot to mention Event Horizon.

I knew it was a matter of time until a rabid fanboy to show up and confront me.
Yes, I've already mentioned how Dead Space borrowed sources from other past movies. It's in my post. But since we aren't talking about how Dead Space ripped off of other sources, I say this game ripped off of Dead Space pretty good.
Also, it's a good thing you brought up System Shock. This game also ripped off of System Shock as well. The only originality with writing in this game is using shock value at the end with all those bodies to give us a similar look as Nazi gas chambers. Except it's a gas chamber in space.

[The Brotherhood]

Hybrids are not Necromorphs.

[Usurper]

The Weirdsd part of the Game is for me that the Char looks the whole Time like he's naked,that suit idea doesnt really fit with the Engine i think.
(Bought the Game on GoG btw)
For the first 30 Minutes i thought he may get some other Cloth,but well..didnt happened =)

Where it has the Inspirations from is Obvious i think,but not bad.
Everything is inspired by something,and its ok done.
But the Game feels a bit unpolished for me,like a Rough Gem i would say.

[Helvetica]

quote=ChrisBischoff;527274088396849462]Hybrids are not Necromorphs. [/quote]

Yeah but Hybrids/Nercomorphs/Aliens fill the same role in all stories. Their details might be vastly different but their use in the narrative isn't.

Personally i like the hybirds and their concept. Ever since i read about scienists doing this to chickens to retro engineer them to give them teeth again using a simalar process (which was inspired in turn by jarassic park). It is quite interesting and a very real world science which i find all more compelling.

As too the story and its simalarity to Dead Space and others. I feel its got way more in common with the alien franchise. I was a bit dissappointed on where the story leads and i do think it suffered for it. Especailly the lost of pacing when we leave Samantha behind it sort of cool's off. The game is a good game. Its worthy of the praise it's received. Please take it as contructive critisim. You did well guys.

Below is my list of Alien easter eggs and simalarities I've seen. I may as well post it here as its about this topic really. Some of these might be reaching a bit. I actually really enjoyed discovering some of these as they totally went over my head the frist time out (some are very clever)




HEADS UP - SPOILERS!!!


Characters ( Characters that display simalar traits or motives)

Ellen name referance - Ellen Ripley
John Maracheck - Aliens. Colonist that dies taking of a live face hunger
Becca john and ellen's child- referance to Rebecca (Newts real name) Aliens

Jupiter - ginger cat like Jonesy. Ripleys cat.

Carter Burke - Direct referance parody to the character with the same name in Aliens.

Malan - Displays character traits very simlar to Ash/Mason from Alien/4. Putting the crew at risk for understanding of the hybrid/alien in a scienific fashion.

Cayne - lives to an old age sets up a huge multi adivision company - Peter Weyland.

Anderson - Sercuity guard who is pretty stupid. - Alien 3. Simalar to 85

Erica Boxer - Takes a gun and tracks sister across the ship despite no combat training. - Simalar to ripleys attuide for going after newt.


General Background material (background nods to Aliens)

Deep Space Sercet Science Ship - Alien 4
Ships voices - Sounds like Mother/Father (ships computer) from alien 1/4
Ship is an ex mining vessel (Nostromo ref? it was hauling mining material)
Yellow pipe bar topped 'heavy loader' - Aliens. Reminds us of the loader suit ripley uses.
Open sided cage elevator - Aliens Colony used simalar.
Cayne Industries rebrands as Cayne Corp - Weyland Industries is also referred to as Weyland Corp.

All Crew/staff have embedded trackers called PDTs - Aliens. All the colonists have these, also called PDTs
Cryo suite - aliens
Automated guns and laptop operation display - Aliens (directors cut). 2 are used to hold off the aliens in the main tunnels.
Full body scan unit. - Alien/3
Auto Surgeon/self surgery - Prometheus
Replay holo security scare in hall- Prometheus

Cloning reserach labs - aliens 4
Pleasant enviromental scenes on large projector screens - Aliens. Gateway station
Queen (the bug) with a huge 'egg sac thing' - Aliens ref to queen in breeding chamber.
Crew stuck in the fungus/alien material -
Fungus turns place into Alien Hive - Aliens. Walls get cover by aliens using secretion.



Story Arc (story elements that are somewhat simalar in events)


Wake up from stasis in unknown ship stolen from another ship intended as a research subject. - Alien 4

Ellen (wife) is 'special' to the project like Ripley (They need johns DNA to track her down)

Ellen has a little girl like Ripley - Aliens. Also Intended to be newt who ripley latches on to as a replacement.

Conversation with Child dreams/mother lies to child about monsters in a song - Aliens. Newts mum says that monsters don't exist.. but they do! Ripley talks to newt
about dreaming in cryo near end.

Try track down Becca with tracker - Aliens. They track newt with a tracker.

Cloning to create human hybrids as weapons - Alien 4. the whole film is based around creating a huamn/alien clone.


Hybirds (Novi) take on the role of the aliens and the new breed human/alien hybrid - Alien 4

Hybirds run about stalking the crew - all films

Samantha's jump scare at iron lung window - Aliens. Bit like the face hunger in the lab.

Wander though crew quarters that show signs of past volience - Aliens, Marines comb the colony for the missing people.

Wandering about waist deep in greenish sewage water - Aliens, Ripley goes into the depth of the colony to find newt.

Chasing after scared ginger cat - Alien. Ripley chases jones.

Cat gets grabbed through floor grate - Aliens. This happens to newt leads to sewer scene.


Lots of blood but crew/bodies are missing - Aliens. Happens to the colonists.

Self/auto surgery to remove trackers - Promoethus. Dr Shaw removes a 'foreign body' from herself.

Confront an alien queen (the bug) - Aliens. Ripley confronts the queen in the underbelly of the colony reactor while the queen is attached to the egg sac.

Elenor trapped in the fungus - Aliens. Colonist women trapped in the alien hive who tells the marines to kill her. They kill her with fire much like you do with Elenor.

Blow up some stuff as a solution - Alien/2. Only way to be sure.

Cloning mistakes create lab horror walkthough - Alien 4. Ripley and the crew of the betty find the other clones of ripley.

Has to go find working power cells. - Alien. Crew need to power up the shuttle.

Becca trapped in a room with Novi. Have to break glass - Aliens. Facehugger scene but ends differently.


Dead Hybird falls on protagnoist - Alien Facehunger falls on ripley while hunting for it in the medbay.

Smash a frozen dudes head - Alien 4. Marine is frozen and smashed by alien.

Stop off in the Alien Hive, find the missing crew, all entangled in fungus - Aliens. They find the colonist in the same sitution.

Malan blown out into space. Alien/s/4. The usual conclusion to the films.

Betrayal from a main character for the selling the hybirds for weapons research. - ref Aliens mainly but also Alien 1/3/4 as well

Ta'ah infiltrates Cayne Corp for alterntive motives to take down the companies research- Aliens 4. Annalee Call becomes a crew member of the betty for the same motives.

Smuggling weapon/research in a body - Aliens, Burke was going to use Ripley and Newt to hide the alien material

Ellen left in cryo stasis on a smaller ship waiting for pick up with the threat to humaninity. Alien 1/2




PDA referances (Passing references to events in the films)

Crew going off alone and not coming back - Alien
Crew being grabbed into vent shafts. - All of them
Marines getting killed by alien while burke runs - aliens
Novi Nay (Ellens hybird) is said not play well with other novi, might referance alien 4 new breed killing of other aliens.

[The Brotherhood]

Samantha needs her own game ;)

[The Brotherhood]

If you watch the first cut scene he has a skin tight suit on - in retrospect we could have made him naked, that would have been a great idea.

[centuryon]

Yeah his clothing and suit is pretty obvious in the cutscenes, but not so much in regular in-game play.

But yeah, I was kind of surprised we didn't come across any obviously named monstrosities that actively "hunted" you. Samantha IIRC only had a scene in the Iron Lung room and then that was it form what I remember. Although that was odd because it seemed there was someone in the Lung but then there was another monster outside too. Was kinda confusing.

[Seanspeed99]

Surely the plasma cutter/torch was an homage?

[SneerfulOwl]

Originally posted by ChrisBischoff:

Hybrids are not Necromorphs.

You can call them whatever you want, they are basically same thing. Killing everything on the ship.

[Sardonic]

Well, no, Necromorphs were dead biomatter reanimated by some weird alien crap.

If we're going to list all the forms of media where 'things what kill humans get loose on a space ship and kill all the crew' we're going to be here a while anyway :P.

If you want to know the truth, I thought the game was a total ripoff of space mutiny (because the spaceship is a giant basement).

Anyway I liked it.

[Buck Bundy]

You may as well save some time and just link tv troupes page on sci-fi horror.

[Vilmer Slaughter]

Originally posted by Sir Gentleman Shark:

Originally posted by ChrisBischoff:

Hybrids are not Necromorphs.

You can call them whatever you want, they are basically same thing. Killing everything on the ship.

TIL Cylons are Necromorphs.