Help In Elevator Shaft Area (SPOILERS)

[L-sama]

I'm in that area with the broken elevator shaft which is flooded, along with some methane tanks. I've drained the water from the area using the terminal, but I can't figure out what to do next.

As far as I can tell, I'm supposed to clear the debris from around the bottom of the shaft, but I'm not sure how. I tried attaching the Cayne Lighter to the pipe grip near the broken methane tank, but nothing seems to happen if I run away immediately after attaching the lighter. The gas only seems to ignite if I'm standing really close to the pipes/lighter which instantly kills John.

Thanks for any assistance.

[Hoshi]

You can ignite the lighter from a distance using an item you find in the entertainment area that will give you a better reach.

[The Brotherhood]

Hey L-sama.. poke it with something long..

[L-sama]

Oh, you mean the cue stick? I'm pretty certain I tried using it, but for some reason nothing happened, maybe I accidentally clicked on the wrong object by mistake. I'll give it another shot. Thanks!

[The Brotherhood]

Do it from the top of the gantry - if you do it to close - you will explode :)

[theetompster]

I've tried this several times and can't figure out how to get it to work. What am I supposed to be doing here?

[theetompster]

I had to search what to do, unfortunately. I'll post it so you don't come across any spoilers while looking for the answer.

Go down to the pipe grip and place the lighter there. Then go back upstairs to the broken banister and use the pool cue from there.

I couldn't figure this out because before I had the cue, I tried using the lighter on the grip and it resulted in dying from the explosion so I figured why would I try that again.

[The Brotherhood]

Cool man. Glad you came right :)

[ev]

I'm in this area, but I have no lighter. I was taking a glimpse into a walkthrough and noticed this person having 4 inventory items while I am only having a drill. Am I still able to solve the game now?

And while we're at it, can someone please explain the logic from the puzzle in this room to me? I only was able to get passed it (the water drowning) with said walkthrough and even when I watched it I had no clue how I would have been supposed to get this combination right. With 6 variables possiblities are infinite!

[The Brotherhood]

You can get all you need in the Puddle Of Mud Club room - once you get those items, have a very good look at the diagram on the wall by the ladder (you use that ladder to climb back into the pipe)

[ev]

Thank you, this really helped!

Please allow me one more question. Why are there buttons for saving and loading a game when the game automatically saves and won't allow me to manually save at certain points?
I just died opening a gate and got flooded with gas. The automatic save throws me back into the tubes even before I did the methane trick and I have to do the whole thing again. I would love to create my own savegame in the new area and as these buttons are available but are being useless I was wondering if this might get implemented in the future?

[The Brotherhood]

Hi Ev - You can save in 2 ways - press ESCAPE / F5 / F7 during the game and it will take you back to the save / Load Menu - select the next open slot and click SAVE - the game will save. To load a game, do the same process, but select an existing slot and click LOAD. You can also move your mouse to the top right corner of the game screen and a menu will appear - click this and it will take you the the main menu where you can save your game.

STASIS will autosave before you die and will reload that slot if you die, if you exit to a menu, STASIS will also autosave your game - you can then click continue game at any time to carry on playing from your last position.

You cannot save when the game is:
In a quicktime event
During a conversation
During an animation (death etc)

Nic

[ev]

Aaaalrighty, so this is how it works. Seriously, I've been playing games for over 20 years now, but somehow I'm finding your system a bit unintuitive. Maybe think about making the process more obvious, like for example highlight a save slot and add a button that has "save game" written on it?!

Anyways, thanks for explaining. You made my life easier just once more again :)