mute/solo buttons on console view

[morgasm69uk]

After receiving the new May update, i find that the mute/solo buttons aren't as responsive as they were previously.

if i click on a solo button it lights up but if i click on it again really quickly it doesnt un-solo, same on the mute buttons, if i wanted to mute a track really breifly on playback (say for 1/64th or 1/128th of a note divisiion) i click on mute, it mutes the track, i click on it again really quickly (probably as quick as a normal windows desktop double click action) it stays muted. sorta spoils what i do when doing live recordings from sonar and riding the console.

[0d1nn]

Just tested it out and I can confirm this. However I didn't know about this because I use the keyboard shortcuts for solo/mute. You can do this from the track pane as well, just click on the track and hit ALT+S for Solo or ALT+M for mute. No bugs there. Hopefully that helps for you while they get that squared away!

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Bummer, looks like something got hung up with the themes migration. Logging with development.

[morgasm69uk]

<insert thumbs up symbol here>

[morgasm69uk]

thanks also doomaxe for responding & the confirmation, yeh i already knew the keyboard shortcuts worked fine. just forgot to put that in the opening comment - oops. i do quite a lot of 'on the fly' grouping with combinations of mouse/keys so i spot things like this possibly before others do. thanks for logging it Seth, appreciated.

[morgasm69uk]

i also have some other issues with the mute/solo buttons, where ive had some really odd behaviour when playing the console, but I'll try and get a reproducible set of events - weird stuff like the global solo button being on, but no tracks or busses solo'd or muted and no sound playing. i think my abuse of sonar confuses the cr@p out of the console sometimes :)))

[morgasm69uk]

doomaxe, another way to use the keyboard is, once the cursors on a mute or solo button in the track view, as they are in a column you can use the arrow keys up/down and the enter key to toggle on/off...(unless youve reprogrammed what those keys do)

[GibsonPro-Audio]

I think this is going to be resolved in the next update. I have a Dev looking at the issue right now.

[morgasm69uk]

\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/\o/ <<<< crowd going wild!!!!!! (well maybe just me)

you guys are amazin (pre-emptive thanks)

ps. i've still got other issues with the mute/solo buttons. i find theres times when the mute/solo buttons on the console are not in sync with the mute/solo buttons on the track view. Also got issues intermittently when doing on the fly groupings and using combinations of ctrl and/or shift + mouse clicks..but as they happen intermittently its hard to try an re-produce a set of circumstances where it happens that i can document for you guys to try. I've even had it one time where the global Solo button was lit up, but no tracks/busses/outputs where muted or solod and there was no sound playing. Currently i had a loop going where the console has 1 track muted and 1 track solod, and in the track view both tracks are muted but one is also solo'd. bit inconsistent.. I'll post a screenshot

[morgasm69uk]

http://postimg.org/image/487nbbv4r/

[morgasm69uk]

and when grouping the mute/solo button on a channel strip so that one toggles the other, i find that sometimes that breaks, where you can only then click on one of the buttons to make them toggle (if devs/testers can't reproduce this, im more than happy to be flown out so i can abuse the software until it does these sort of things :)))

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Since you have a good screenshot of that, could you post a report here? : http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Contact/Problem-Report

That gets pretty regular attention from QA and you'll get notifications on the status!

[morgasm69uk]

well im unable to use that link, dropdowns not working for me on that page. cant select a product as there's nothing listed in the dropdown. weird.

I've sent a support email via the cakewalk website. As i've tried this route before im not hopeful of it actually getting there, but will check my yahoo email for an automated response to see if its been received at all.

here's the text of what i sent just in case...

"having issues with the Mute /Solo buttons on the console view & track view. I can get the buttons into some weird states which shouldn't be possible. Seth asked me on Steam to raise a support ticket on here, but I've tried before on other issues and had no response, but i'll try again.

There seems to be a bit of a disconnect between the states of the track view and console view and some of the states i've managed to get it into just shouldn't be possible.

I'm able to provide some screen shots of projects where I've got mute/& solo buttons lit up on the console but the track view doesn't have the same state. I've got a screenshot of an 8 track project where I've got 4 tracks muted, and 4 tracks not muted its in play/loop mode, yet I hear nothing when I should be hearing 4 tracks. I've got another screenshot, where i've got nothing muted or solo'd on the console yet the global mute button is lit up (just how?), and of 8 tracks ive only got 4 playing. There seems to be no option here though o upload screenshots even though Seth's asked me to contact cakewalk support, please advise?

This M/s button behaviour seems massively broken to me. I've been using cakewalk products for a long while now, and your console mute/solo button behaviour seems to be just getting worse (for me at least)... it becomes broken also when I start using grouping and doing things like putting the mute/solo button of a channel into a toggle state. I had similar issues in Sonar X3(e) which I also tried to raise a long while ago.

One of the other things that's really killing me is fast clicking on the mute/solo buttons, if I solo a track then instantly click on it again to un-solo it, it doesn't work. Same for the mute button. There's a 'discussion' on Steam about this and has been verified by another user. This 'bug' was introduced with the May 2016 update. As I said I have screenshots I can provide, I can even send you the projects if necessary. "

[GibsonPro-Audio]

Thanks for the update.

Re: The slow Mute/Solo button issue is in with development right now. I'm just waiting on a build to test and see if it's improved.

Re: The out of sync buttons, unfortunately we still need to repro that in house, but it's on our radar. There's a few different logged cases on this, so we'll continue to investigate.

[morgasm69uk]

thanks for your response Seth.
If I can systematically reproduce these M/S button issues myself - and I can with at least 1 of them I'm sure, but some of them 'just happen' when im in full flow trying various on-the-fly groupings while in loop mode - i'll try and sort out a step by step guide. if i sit down for a session with Sonar SE for a few hours buttons will mess up several times over an evening so should have a few opportunities :)

[GibsonPro-Audio]

引用自 morgasm69uk：

thanks for your response Seth.
If I can systematically reproduce these M/S button issues myself - and I can with at least 1 of them I'm sure, but some of them 'just happen' when im in full flow trying various on-the-fly groupings while in loop mode - i'll try and sort out a step by step guide. if i sit down for a session with Sonar SE for a few hours buttons will mess up several times over an evening so should have a few opportunities :)

I'll PM you my e-mail. Please send the project if you can!

You probably don't need to include any audio data, just the project file.

Also, I just tested a proposed slowness fix on the mute/solo button clicks today. I believe the issue is resolved. This was on a VM machine though, and I need to test natively to verify.