Project CARS 2

Project CARS 2

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flesh gamer 2020 年 6 月 3 日 下午 3:47
project cars 3 is garbage
looks like codemasters ruined this series and pcars 3 looks like one of codemasters' garbage racing games filled with bad visual effects, made up championships and racing series and crappy "simcade" driving and generic cars. codemasters dont know anything about racing games they just got lucky with how good grid,dirt 1 2 3 and the toca games turned out to be. also this game looks the same as pcars 2 just with ♥♥♥♥ codemasters visuals and they also added customization for some reason but it looks like it lacks real world racing series and motorsport elements. ♥♥♥♥ codemasters
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☎need4naiim☎ 2020 年 6 月 14 日 下午 6:37 
And, apart from its simulation or arcadey nature, car and track list are EXTREMELY important. PC2 is a strong competitor in this regard. Though it lacks some key cars like Dodge Viper GTS-R, Lamborghini Countach, Mercedes-AMG SL73 R129 and Porsche 964 lineage.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 14 日 下午 7:04 
引用自 ☎need4naiim☎
And, apart from its simulation or arcadey nature, car and track list are EXTREMELY important. PC2 is a strong competitor in this regard. Though it lacks some key cars like Dodge Viper GTS-R, Lamborghini Countach, Mercedes-AMG SL73 R129 and Porsche 964 lineage.
Problem is, the "S" from "CARS" mean "Simulation" . . if it is not a "Simulation", just "graphical simulation", then the "C" should also leave the title, becoming "Project AR" (and would make sense, "Project Assisted Racing" as an arcade title).
Nats 2020 年 6 月 15 日 上午 1:55 
Or Project Ars for short lol.

Seriously though there are a lot of other car sims out there for people who just want an accurate racing sim, RFactor2, AMS2 and ACC being possible contenders for great racing sims with good driving feel but less variation and 'fun'. I always enjoyed the other aspects of PC - the sense of speed, the graphics, the nose to nose racing, the career, the variation of cars and tracks, the variety of different styles of racing available to try out (I still haven't even tried the motor cross yet!).

So I am interested to see what they come up with for PC3 and the career etc, I just hope I can run it ok. I am pretty sure it will blow everything else out of the water as PC and PC2 both did, but remain to be finally convinced.
最後修改者:Nats; 2020 年 6 月 15 日 上午 1:57
Delta Zero PL VT 2020 年 6 月 19 日 上午 7:30 
All I can say is:
INFURIATING DIASPPOINTMENT
It has to be a simulation, not c r a p p y arcade, if you want arcade go play FH 4
Omiley 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 7:48 
You cant complain that they decided to go a different direction when sales for sim racing is lacking. Would be understandable vice versa, but sim racing is a niche genre. They simply cant afford to keep breaking even just to appease a small market. Bright side is there are plenty of sims available so everyone has something to play.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 7:56 
引用自 Omiley
You cant complain that they decided to go a different direction when sales for sim racing is lacking. Would be understandable vice versa, but sim racing is a niche genre. They simply cant afford to keep breaking even just to appease a small market. Bright side is there are plenty of sims available so everyone has something to play.
When you put "Simulation" into your title you expect something at least a simulator of some sort, not an arcade with option to become simcade.
Also, CARS is Community Assisted Racing Simulator, as PC1 was basically with help of the community, so as the community helped at least a bit with PC2 too . . now "Project CARS 3" lost both C and S from CARS.

If they dont want to make simulators anymore, dont put "Simulator" on the title, much less "Community" as it was not what the community wanted.
Omiley 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 8:18 
So the only issue most of you have is with the name ? LOL. As for what CARS stands for is just something different in order to gain a following, nothing more. Now they can make the games they wanted from the start.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 8:28 
引用自 Omiley
So the only issue most of you have is with the name ? LOL. As for what CARS stands for is just something different in order to gain a following, nothing more. Now they can make the games they wanted from the start.
So, it is better to call a game a simulator but make it arcade/simcade instead of creating a new brand or using another brand that is already arcade or simcade ... This is exactly why people are bashing PC3 for beinga Project CARS, exactly because of the S standing for "Simulation" and the fact the Community helped create the brand.

Yes, now they can make the games they want and sell it for whatever they want, but they wont see my money if that is the case and I believe the money of a lot of other people (also if that is the case, not from me but I believe a lot of people will gladly make mockery about PC3 on release).
Throwing a brand to garbage to make a bit more money is a bad idea that may end up killing the brand itself as a whole (if it dont end up killing the studio behind too if that end as a failure).
The backlash against on social media and youtube is already there before release, do the math, after release if PC3 is nothing of a simulator even with all assists off, the backlash against will be even worst and it may very well affect the sales, like a lot.
unknown 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 8:45 
But we don't actually know to what level it will be arcade or simulator. The drifting looked great from a simulator perspective, and project cars 2 can look exactly like the acrade gameplay trailor with all the assists on and played with a gamepad. We really don't know where on the spectrum this game lays.

Project cars has been at its core a game with a tone of customisation and if they can make a game that can be both forza and assetto corsa they they have a very versitile game appealing to both communities. I think thats what they are going for, but again we do not know at this point. No one has had their hands on this game and currently the developers say they have improved the simulator aspect as well as acrade, but thats just their word. Until its released its all speculation. No reason to complain about something we don't know anything about.
Omiley 2020 年 6 月 19 日 下午 8:56 
You're missing the point @EF_Neo1st, sim racing is a very small market. Even if all those who enjoy sims dont buy the game, wont compare to those who prefer semi-sim (simcade, etc). Its all about numbers as you stated. The sim community just doesnt the numbers to render a game a financial failure. Those of us who are all around racing fans understand why they chose this route even if we dont agree with how they did it.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 20 日 上午 12:45 
引用自 Omiley
You're missing the point @EF_Neo1st, sim racing is a very small market. Even if all those who enjoy sims dont buy the game, wont compare to those who prefer semi-sim (simcade, etc). Its all about numbers as you stated. The sim community just doesnt the numbers to render a game a financial failure. Those of us who are all around racing fans understand why they chose this route even if we dont agree with how they did it.
So ... Dont make a simulator that dont is a simulator.
If the term "simulator" can be used to anything that resembles an Idea of driving, but sell or sold well and have good graphics simulation, then any NFS could be considered a top sim for its time.

You dont sell a game as a simulator, deliver no simulation in terms of real life phisics, and expect to be taken seriously. That is no arguing neither argument against that.

Again, lets hope I am wrong and PC3 without any assists is a simulation ... Or else it wont deserve the S neither the C and should be renamed as Project AR for Assisted Racing.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 20 日 上午 12:51 
引用自 unknown
But we don't actually know to what level it will be arcade or simulator. The drifting looked great from a simulator perspective, and project cars 2 can look exactly like the acrade gameplay trailor with all the assists on and played with a gamepad. We really don't know where on the spectrum this game lays.

Project cars has been at its core a game with a tone of customisation and if they can make a game that can be both forza and assetto corsa they they have a very versitile game appealing to both communities. I think thats what they are going for, but again we do not know at this point. No one has had their hands on this game and currently the developers say they have improved the simulator aspect as well as acrade, but thats just their word. Until its released its all speculation. No reason to complain about something we don't know anything about.
PC1 and PC2 dont look anywhere near as arcade as the arcade gameplay they showed, but then why show the simulation vídeo without any inputs?
People got skeptical for that and not giving enough credits for the "simulation" footage the way they showed ... It can very much be at the NFS Shift or GRID lvl of simulation or less for that driving.
unknown 2020 年 6 月 20 日 上午 1:01 
引用自 EF_Neo1st
引用自 unknown
But we don't actually know to what level it will be arcade or simulator. The drifting looked great from a simulator perspective, and project cars 2 can look exactly like the acrade gameplay trailor with all the assists on and played with a gamepad. We really don't know where on the spectrum this game lays.

Project cars has been at its core a game with a tone of customisation and if they can make a game that can be both forza and assetto corsa they they have a very versitile game appealing to both communities. I think thats what they are going for, but again we do not know at this point. No one has had their hands on this game and currently the developers say they have improved the simulator aspect as well as acrade, but thats just their word. Until its released its all speculation. No reason to complain about something we don't know anything about.
PC1 and PC2 dont look anywhere near as arcade as the arcade gameplay they showed, but then why show the simulation vídeo without any inputs?
People got skeptical for that and not giving enough credits for the "simulation" footage the way they showed ... It can very much be at the NFS Shift or GRID lvl of simulation or less for that driving.
Honestly i think PC2 looks even more arcady than that footage especially with the driving line on. As far as an interface to assist you the video looks much cleaner, but the driving itself looks about the same to me.

Although it is also possibly that they just increased the degree of their various assists to make it that way, or created a setting that makes the game more arcady. I mean the best game is one that can sell to both market. Why would they just not want to make money when they already have the simulator physics. They probibly worked on an acrade mode so they could expand their audience.

Or its all arcade garbage and the developer has lied to us about improving the simulation and the drifting video was faked. And that may very well be the case. But the bottom line is that we don't know. We don't know didly squat about this game. We have 2 very different gameplay trailers one showing arcade trash and the other showing some pretty nice drifting and 1 ugly reveal trailor. We will know when the reviewers get their hands on it and either tie this thing to a steak and burn it or put it up on a raised platform bowing before its excellence.
EF_Neo1st 2020 年 6 月 20 日 上午 1:14 
引用自 unknown
引用自 EF_Neo1st
PC1 and PC2 dont look anywhere near as arcade as the arcade gameplay they showed, but then why show the simulation vídeo without any inputs?
People got skeptical for that and not giving enough credits for the "simulation" footage the way they showed ... It can very much be at the NFS Shift or GRID lvl of simulation or less for that driving.
Honestly i think PC2 looks even more arcady than that footage especially with the driving line on. As far as an interface to assist you the video looks much cleaner, but the driving itself looks about the same to me.

Although it is also possibly that they just increased the degree of their various assists to make it that way, or created a setting that makes the game more arcady. I mean the best game is one that can sell to both market. Why would they just not want to make money when they already have the simulator physics. They probibly worked on an acrade mode so they could expand their audience.

Or its all arcade garbage and the developer has lied to us about improving the simulation and the drifting video was faked. And that may very well be the case. But the bottom line is that we don't know. We don't know didly squat about this game. We have 2 very different gameplay trailers one showing arcade trash and the other showing some pretty nice drifting and 1 ugly reveal trailor. We will know when the reviewers get their hands on it and either tie this thing to a steak and burn it or put it up on a raised platform bowing before its excellence.
Exactly why I posted, more than once, something like this:
Again, lets hope I am wrong and PC3 without any assists is a simulation ... Or else it wont deserve the S neither the C and should be renamed as Project AR for Assisted Racing.
The arcade footage leave no room for wrong conclusions, it is arcade, the "non-assisted" footage left room for wrong conclusions, even more after that "NFS Underground"-like of the arcade footage and the trailer that leave the NFS feeling.
unknown 2020 年 6 月 20 日 上午 2:34 
引用自 EF_Neo1st
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Very true
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