This or Forza 7?

[NovaGB]

so Forza 7 is on Sale, which is better? more enjoyable to play etc? i do prefer my games on Steam so that is a factor.

You Tube videos seem to have them pretty equal but say Forza has better graphics and more arcadey, what would you buy?

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por Lankeydonkey06:

EDITED : Infact I was going to leave my message at somthing derogatory like l2p noob or something , ! Ahwell people enjoy different things I'm not going to change my mind neither , have fun playing with yourself Mr , Unsubbing from Discussion as I left my 2 cents regarding the matter to the OP

the OP has bought FOrza 7.

[Frey]

Comparison lap: Forza 7 vs Project Cars 2 vs Assetto Corsa vs Real Life - Huracan GT3 @ Silverstone here is the video of the results:

Forza 7 vs lap Huracan GT3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gnme1NeAp4&feature=youtu.be

Uncanny Valley

All 3 games are incredibly close in both look, feel and sound to the real world footage, there is no doubt these are all close recreations of the Huracan GT3 car and accurate Silverstone tracks. What the video can't show you is the subtle differences between the games, here are my thoughts after running the games back to back for these laps yesterday.

Forza 7 - actually the most difficult to set a good and consistent lap time in. The lack of tarmac feel (corner and kerb feel are fine) makes it more difficult to hustle the car and a smooth hand is required on the wheel, much improved over any previous FM game all the same. Flat tarmac feel aside the car looks and feels right, Silverstone feels a little narrow compared to the other games (in real life the width of the Silverstone track robs a lot of the sensation of speed). Forza's greatest strength is that it absolutely looks the fastest of the games, it really does convey moving at 100mph+ well.

Project CARS 2 - looks superb in VR and the Hurcan has a real weight and aggression in the feel of the car on track. Silverstone looks as wide as it is in real life. The world scale in VR is perfect it feels like sitting in the real car. Getting the wheel set to give a good balance between feedback and weight remains a challenge in pcars2. The pcars2 sound is also more aggressive than Forza. Where pcars2 lags behind Forza 7 is in the feeling of speed. No matter the speed pcars2 cars feel pedestrian. Jumping between the 2 games I had to adjust my driving significantly, I was entering corners far too quickly at first because the car felt much slower. Once I'd adjusted I could lap in the same 2:04 times, but I still needed to watch the speed more closely. Tyre squeal sounds are essential to achieving a decent lap in PCARS2.

Assetto Corsa - Assetto Corsa has the most intuitive steering feel and higher grip levels. This game was the easiest to get in and drive fast with consistent laps. It can't match the look and feel of pcars2 or the sense of speed of Forza and the sound is also somewhere between the 2. (The audio file on the Assetto video is slightly out of synch as it was recorded in VR but I left it in as an example of how the game sounds.)

Laptimes need a mention too. The Blancpain GT3 Championship Silverstone pole time set in a Huracan GT3 in 2016 was 1.59. According to the leaderboards on Assetto Corsa gets close to these times (some alien driver, not me!), Project CARS2 and FM7 current top times are in the 2:02 region but as newer games maybe others will go quicker. For me Assetto Corsa feels like it has more grip.

So which is best? Well I struggle to make that choice, to me they are all different and all superb in their own way. Forza 7 is the best 'game' and has the best impression of speed of the 3, Project CARS 2 the best 'race weekend simulator' with real weather & time. Assetto Corsa has great steering feel and superb almost human AI. I can't split them and I hope the video shows just how close a recreation of the real world they all are. The best time ever to be a racing gamer? I think so.

[[YJL] ZondaFreak]

Publicado originalmente por Koly™:

Publicado originalmente por Ir0n_ValarMorghulis:

Forza is a complete trash simcade using a decent wheel. PC2 is far superior in this regard, it is for purists and offers excellent realism and FFB. Forza is fun with controllers though and offers a better casual gaming experience.

you don't have forza 7.

On a top-tier PC, it all comes down to what title you prefer. Your incendiary and nonsensical comments throughout this forum didn't adequately address the OP's question. All you do is trash PC2 based on personal preference and seemingly incomplete/highly biased information.

I'm convinced you must either work for the Forza team, not have a high-end rig, or have the aesthetically ability of a giraffe wearing blurry goggles. Both titles have state of the art visuals (varied shading methods are used etc, again, just preference). It all comes down to the gameplay style you prefer.

All Forzas are good, but indeed more arcade-ish than PC2 or Assetto Corsa. All can be played fine with a gamepad, though you need to be extremely sensitive in the inputs. A wheel makes it easier for many.

There are many racing games available. Pick the one you like. Hope the OP still has time to refund Forza 7 if he tries out the other 4 or so options out there and likes one of them better.

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por YJL ZondaFreak:

Publicado originalmente por Koly™:

you don't have forza 7.

On a top-tier PC, it all comes down to what title you prefer. Your incendiary and nonsensical comments throughout this forum didn't adequately address the OP's question. All you do is trash PC2 based on personal preference and seemingly incomplete/highly biased information.

I'm convinced you must either work for the Forza team, not have a high-end rig, or have the aesthetically ability of a giraffe wearing blurry goggles. Both titles have state of the art visuals (varied shading methods are used etc, again, just preference). It all comes down to the gameplay style you prefer.

All Forzas are good, but indeed more arcade-ish than PC2 or Assetto Corsa. All can be played fine with a gamepad, though you need to be extremely sensitive in the inputs. A wheel makes it easier for many.

There are many racing games available. Pick the one you like. Hope the OP still has time to refund Forza 7 if he tries out the other 4 or so options out there and likes one of them better.

emuwheel for Forza 7 makes FFB far better than assetto or other games ( it adds effect not present in the game and remove the lack of FFB when we are not in curbs)
for the moment Forza 7 is the best game/sim ever made.

when you will have a real manual clutch with PC 2 with missed shift, you can call it a sim.
at the moment PC is just a mediocre arcade game with stupid AI train/snake.
but for 25$ no need to refund, PC's quality equals its price, very low.

i have all racing games since gtr and use ts pc racer with custom omp wheel ;) and if i work for a compagny it will be thrustmaster ;)

[Frogster 🐸]

Forza 7 has DirectX 12 graphics and over 700 cars.

[MatthewKai]

One thing I don't like about forza game and why i dont us cockpit view but use dash view it because the drivers arm only roate about 90 degree's left or right. In other game like Assetto corsa the arms move all the way

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por Psychotic Oz:

One thing I don't like about forza game and why i dont us cockpit view but use dash view it because the drivers arm only roate about 90 degree's left or right. In other game like Assetto corsa the arms move all the way

i agree at 100%.
customing view is not good with forza 7.
and 90 degrees for the rotation is awfull.

i have re installed AC and it's very good game too.

[Frey]

https://forzatools. weebly.com/forza-emuwheel.html

FFB is now far superior to any racing games, Assetto corsa feels so arcade and has awfull graphics, time is for FORZA 7, the best simulaton :)

[Stringbean]

Publicado originalmente por Psychotic Oz:

in Hardcore sims you have to practice, qualify then you finally get to race.

That's realism for you! Many of the young kids just haven't got the patience or staminar to go through all that. That's why none of you can race in multiplayer without running experienced drivers off the road or crashing into them!

[MatthewKai]

Publicado originalmente por stringbean6:

Publicado originalmente por Psychotic Oz:

in Hardcore sims you have to practice, qualify then you finally get to race.

That's realism for you! Many of the young kids just haven't got the patience or staminar to go through all that. That's why none of you can race in multiplayer without running experienced drivers off the road or crashing into them!

But the main problem I have with that is by the time the race starts half the players have already quit the game.

[Trux]

Forza 7 is ok.. it has some weird tyre physics. Tyres heat and cool almost instantly and once over the limit and the physics decide you’re gonna spin that’s it. You can’t catch it with a controller.

The graphics are good but the devs have set so many of the career races with low light. Like is almost evening.
Irl not many races start at these times but in Forza it’s a common occurrence and an annoying one.
Without HDR the game is too dark in these low light situations and it doesn’t look realistic.

Also, the tracks have barriers at places that they don’t exist in real life.
Obviously to stop people cutting the tracks but it’s an annoyance to anyone looking for realism.

The menu system is a mess.
Loading a car on a particular track to do a time trial is not an easy thing to achieve and the game suffers much longer load times than with pcars.

There is no fov option and cockpit view is inconsistent across many cars. Some feel ok where as others feel like you’re sat on the back seat.

Forza wins on road car selection and it’s got better controller support than pcars 2 but other than that pcars wins in all areas.
AI in Forza is shockingly poor. It’s impossible to race with the AI without trading paint as it doesn’t recognise the players even there.
Pcars 2 has better AI.

Both are playable titles but I feel I will be playing PCars2 longer.

[Frey]

Publicado originalmente por Trux:

Forza 7 is ok.. it has some weird tyre physics. Tyres heat and cool almost instantly and once over the limit and the physics decide you’re gonna spin that’s it. You can’t catch it with a controller.

The graphics are good but the devs have set so many of the career races with low light. Like is almost evening.
Irl not many races start at these times but in Forza it’s a common occurrence and an annoying one.
Without HDR the game is too dark in these low light situations and it doesn’t look realistic.

Also, the tracks have barriers at places that they don’t exist in real life.
Obviously to stop people cutting the tracks but it’s an annoyance to anyone looking for realism.

The menu system is a mess.
Loading a car on a particular track to do a time trial is not an easy thing to achieve and the game suffers much longer load times than with pcars.

There is no fov option and cockpit view is inconsistent across many cars. Some feel ok where as others feel like you’re sat on the back seat.

Forza wins on road car selection and it’s got better controller support than pcars 2 but other than that pcars wins in all areas.
AI in Forza is shockingly poor. It’s impossible to race with the AI without trading paint as it doesn’t recognise the players even there.
Pcars 2 has better AI.

Both are playable titles but I feel I will be playing PCars2 longer.

AI with PC 2 is the worst.
just follow like a train.

Forgood AI raceoom or the best ASsetto.
with assetto it's real fight vs Ai and ai vs ai, so good.
Pc has no sense of speed which is a no play for this

[Sono]

@Koly reading through this all you seem to do is say that Project CARS 2 is bad at everything and disagree with anyone that says it is good.

[OMG 77]

Koly is a tit he don't even own the game and only has forza demo running on Intel hd graphic.
He's only on project cars discussions because its the only one that puts up with him and how does he pay us back by being a tit. You only have to check his old user names to see this who would call their self I do your sister up the arse.

[Frogster 🐸]

Publicado originalmente por Koly™:

Publicado originalmente por Trux:

Forza 7 is ok.. it has some weird tyre physics. Tyres heat and cool almost instantly and once over the limit and the physics decide you’re gonna spin that’s it. You can’t catch it with a controller.

The graphics are good but the devs have set so many of the career races with low light. Like is almost evening.
Irl not many races start at these times but in Forza it’s a common occurrence and an annoying one.
Without HDR the game is too dark in these low light situations and it doesn’t look realistic.

Also, the tracks have barriers at places that they don’t exist in real life.
Obviously to stop people cutting the tracks but it’s an annoyance to anyone looking for realism.

The menu system is a mess.
Loading a car on a particular track to do a time trial is not an easy thing to achieve and the game suffers much longer load times than with pcars.

There is no fov option and cockpit view is inconsistent across many cars. Some feel ok where as others feel like you’re sat on the back seat.

Forza wins on road car selection and it’s got better controller support than pcars 2 but other than that pcars wins in all areas.
AI in Forza is shockingly poor. It’s impossible to race with the AI without trading paint as it doesn’t recognise the players even there.
Pcars 2 has better AI.

Both are playable titles but I feel I will be playing PCars2 longer.

AI with PC 2 is the worst.
just follow like a train.

Forgood AI raceoom or the best ASsetto.
with assetto it's real fight vs Ai and ai vs ai, so good.
Pc has no sense of speed which is a no play for this

Do you think Forza7 has better AI than PC2?