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rdhartman

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:02pm

Worth buying without a steering wheel?

Okay, racing games are probably my favorite type of game. I can't say that I'm really a sim racer. However, I do enjoy the Forza series and F1 series. I'm probably average at these games. I typically play with assists on... not necessarily as talented/skilled as you fine folks are.

I don't have a steering wheel. My question is: am I still going to be able to play the game without a controller? From what I have read, this game requires some skill in order to keep the back end from stepping out in the corners. Being able to read and prevent this using a controller sounds challenging. Has anyone here had success using the controller? Would it be viable for someone less skilled than you? I like the career mode and the inclusion of Indycar, but I don't want to play if I can't be competitive. Thoughts?

Thanks.

Last edited by rdhartman; Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:03pm

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Isha

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:06pm

I would say no. You need a wheel to appreciate a sim. You can play with a controller, but there isn't much point unless you enjoy more difficulty than Forza.

slut station has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:09pm

cargames without wheel is booring. i´d say no to all car games with pad or keyboard. But im sure forza is the game for those to enjoy with pad.

"Fascinating!" has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:11pm

I just bought it and I'm using an Xbox gamepad. It feels like it will work if I really put time into it but this game really cries out for a wheel, which I can't buy/set up currently.

I'd say it's 50/50 on whether people like using a pad. If you aren't a sim racer though, you may find it's tedious getting comfortable. I will say this game has a really great driving feel but the learning curve with each car may be a little steep for casual racers.

I was able top play PC1 with a gamepad but I'm having a harder time with PC2. Haven't decided if I'm refunding yet. Still have about an hour of playtime to decide. If I do, I'll likely buy it again after all the content and patches are released. It's clearly a great racing game.

Isha

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:13pm

Originally posted by Naaajs:
cargames without wheel is booring. i´d say no to all car games with pad or keyboard. But im sure forza is the game for those to enjoy with pad.

Yeah the control scheme of Forza is optimised for controllers with consoles in mind. While there are many wheels available for consoles, most people don't have them so they design the physics with that in mind.

That's really the difference between 'arcade' games and 'simulators' - the control devices they're designed for.

rdhartman

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:20pm

I was on the fence before, and now I'll think I'll hold off until I can get a proper steering wheel setup. It seems I would enjoy this particular game more if I had one.

I really appreciate the quick replies.

slut station has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:21pm

Originally posted by Snake Plissken:
Originally posted by Jason:

Yeah the control scheme of Forza is optimised for controllers with consoles in mind. While there are many wheels available for consoles, most people don't have them so they design the physics with that in mind.

That's really the difference between 'arcade' games and 'simulators' - the control devices they're designed for.

Now you're just trolling, Wheels exist for both Forza and GT, with GT having it's own wheel released
GT5 had the DFGT wheel whcih is one of the best wheels available for price point on the market, please tell us ore about how no one owns these wheels?

Yes all cargames usually have wheel support. But i dont feel Forza felt good with wheel. im not right its just my opinion.

Isha

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:32pm

It's a simple question of demographics. The devs know what audience they're going for - arcade on console, simcade on pc and console, or hardcore simulation on pc, and they design the physics of the game according to the hardware they expect the target audience to have so they make the maximum number of people happy who they think will be buying their game.

Forza 7 doesn't expect someone with a Fanatec sim rig to be playing, they expect someone with an Xbox controller to be playing, so they optimize for that. Yes, there are wheels available - as I said - but that doesn't constitute the majority of their target audience. Even then those wheels are really toys compared to real sim rig gear.

That in mind, if you're going to play with a controller, you ought to play a game designed for controllers. PCars 2 is designed to straddle the barrier between arcade like Forza 7 and hardcore simulator like iRacing so it does cater a little to controller, but not like Forza 7 does.

TL;DR - you'll be happier with Forza than PCars 2 if you use a controller.

slut station has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:35pm

Originally posted by Snake Plissken:
Originally posted by Naaajs:

Yes all cargames usually have wheel support. But i dont feel Forza felt good with wheel. im not right its just my opinion.

Your honesty is refreshing, F7 is a mixed bag from what my friends have told me regarding wheel support. It's not a simple pnp affair, you do need to tweak the settings to get the FFB to work the best for you
Given this, JoyPad out of the box is pretty easy on ost players, in 2 minutes I was up and running without any real issues with my own settings
Double check F7 again if you still have it installed, it could surprise you

you´re probably right need to get it some more tweeks.
Just like i did with pc2 by getting this great file by jack spade for FFB to pc2.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51628-Jack-Spade-Custom-FFB-Files

HooksGURU

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:38pm

Project Cars 2 is nowhere near as difficult as the first with a controller.

You will be fine once you get used to how sensative the game is to inputs. It is designed for a wheel, but you can enjoy the game with a controller. The team gave more attention this time around to controller inputs and feedback.

Just be patient.

slut station has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 2:42pm

Originally posted by Snake Plissken:
Originally posted by Naaajs:

you´re probably right need to get it some more tweeks.
Just like i did with pc2 by getting this great file by jack spade for FFB to pc2.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?51628-Jack-Spade-Custom-FFB-Files

Jack Spade was the guy that made my PC1 more enjoyable with my DFGT back in the day. We need more people like him imo

Like everybody says that SAS should hire that guy!

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Glenn37216 has Project CARS 2

Sep 25, 2017 @ 4:21pm

Not even reading other people posts. I have 2 wheels.. G27, Fantec Forza... but I play this game with a controller. For me .. I have much more control over feathering than I do with a wheel. Check out my vids in my profile for the settings I use. I'm actually having fun in the game. Which is odd considering most here have nothing but frustrations...

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