Demon and beast usefullness?

[Kanjejou]

I had too much clay so i spammed clay building and bone building and got beast and demons as possible habitants... the problem is that they seem to suck. they cant be equiped are extremely weak in battle and not super good in dex or int based situations....

I mean what can i do witha Bee?or a Pinecone demon?.

was ablt to keep 2 pinecone alive until they reache dlevel 10 and their stat gain were so all over the place that they couldnt do anything well... only social and tactiv wre they were able to shyne.

any other deamon or beast and any purposes?

strange stuff pinecone demon eat food even thought they are indicated as ghost...isnt that strange.? Even beast eat your supply when they are a whole lot smaller ...

when do they get special skill and power or good stats?

[ilikemadeupnames]

In my opinion, Beasts are cannon fodder. They attract quickly, making them pretty easy to get. Some of the beasts have really good Stealth skill which can come in handy if you're attacking.

I like Demons. It's a gamble, and yeah, there are some crap ones, but they all have Magic. Some have some other very useful skills. The "quality" range of Demons is very large, unlike Beasts. You can check out example stats/skill here: http://muhagames.com/thea/recruits/

[Kanjejou]

im at 400 turn and only got 3 human 1 beast and 2 demon added to my starting guys so im at 16 units... how do you make them come faster? already got 10 building all with demon or beast bonuses.

doing ok only 4+ challenge can threaten me or 3 if im unlucky on the card draw.

[ilikemadeupnames]

Originally posted by Kanjejou:

im at 400 turn and only got 3 human 1 beast and 2 demon added to my starting guys so im at 16 units... how do you make them come faster? already got 10 building all with demon or beast bonuses.

doing ok only 4+ challenge can threaten me or 3 if im unlucky on the card draw.

Check out the Material Abilities page (credit goes to another player). http://muhagames.com/thea/material-abilities/

If you construct buildings using materials that attract other species, they'll start joining you at a speed that is dependent on how much Attract value you have and your current population.

Edit: I didn't read your post very well...I blame the beer. :P

[ilikemadeupnames]

The Attract bonus can be made better by using better ingredients and by constructing Palisades instead of other buildings. Palisades use more materials than other buildings (except Totem), making the potential bonus higher.

[Lucky Kharms]

Demons are actually my favourite race. You do have to get a bit lucky with which ones you get, though. Pineconettes, for instance, are probably the worst of the demons, though they do have some uses (social, mostly). There are some demons that can equip everything, and have good stats, and even come with cool things like piercing or leech. Striga are fairly common recruitments and they have full equipment capabilities, for instance.

Beasts, as stated, seem to mostly just be cannon fodder. They usually have decent health/shielding, so i use them as a buffer between the enemy and my glass cannon cards.

[Oskatat]

some demons I got were absolute monsters, rather overpowered when fully kitted out. They are also guaranteed to have inborn magic, which is useful if you cant get a witch or sage with magic, it opens a lot of new event options which can lead to enormous stat gains, very strong new group members and more. Even if all I get is a pineconette, I just chuck it in my group. the stealth helps enough that, combined with lending magic to me, the other weaknesses are less important. It's rather similar to having a weak witch or sage with me. They dont provide much combat damage, but their other abilities make up for that.

[happyscrub]

I never attracted a beast, but I got one from an event... a giant boar. Thing had like 27 shield!!! (on top of a ton of armor)

[Knecht0r]

Some demons are very powerful. Hala (?) is probably the most powerful. Also there are some fairly powerful Beasts like Strigabat or the very strong Dragonspider and even a Spiderqueen is fairly useful in the Beginning if you use the poison correctly.

[ilikemadeupnames]

Originally posted by Knecht0r:

Some demons are very powerful. Hala (?) is probably the most powerful. Also there are some fairly powerful Beasts like Strigabat or the very strong Dragonspider and even a Spiderqueen is fairly useful in the Beginning if you use the poison correctly.

I think Rabid Bear and Royal Crow are pretty good too. The bear for its blunt damage + poison, and the crow for its tactics. The Queen Bee is a great support unit early on with very high ranged damage. It also has decent damage with piercing and poison.

Edit: Also, Demons are basically lawyers. You just go around talking everything to death. :)

[Lampros]

Originally posted by Kanjejou:

I had too much clay so i spammed clay building and bone building and got beast and demons as possible habitants... the problem is that they seem to suck. they cant be equiped are extremely weak in battle and not super good in dex or int based situations....

I mean what can i do witha Bee?or a Pinecone demon?.

was ablt to keep 2 pinecone alive until they reache dlevel 10 and their stat gain were so all over the place that they couldnt do anything well... only social and tactiv wre they were able to shyne.

any other deamon or beast and any purposes?

strange stuff pinecone demon eat food even thought they are indicated as ghost...isnt that strange.? Even beast eat your supply when they are a whole lot smaller ...

when do they get special skill and power or good stats?

I feel the same - except that certain demons can equip all gear slots and come with formidable base stats, too. But they are rare, and waiting for them feels like playing the lotto, because you will often go through tons of garbage units before you get anything good.

[Bardamu]

There is a question left for me: I havent found out, how you can delete attrackted Mobs you dont want, if its even possible at all...

[[CZ]Pondloso]

send to die alone?

[Krutsi]

Originally posted by Bardamu:

There is a question left for me: I havent found out, how you can delete attrackted Mobs you dont want, if its even possible at all...

Same way you delete anyone unwanted, send them on a suicide expedition.

[Yuuki]

Edit: Also, Demons are basically lawyers. You just go around talking everything to death. :) [/quote]

Haha, yup, I like that assessment :)

Also, just to add to the discussion, non-human characters can be great fighters or just purely op if you're lucky, but their main role was to a) make it more fun, because some people just enjoy having a Pineconette or even a bee in their village and b) to diversify the skill sets and abilities, so yeah, you say Pineconnettes are only good at social and tactic, I say, exactly! So now you can maybe go and resolve a quest or challenge by lawyering up ;) or if you don't want to, just kill them off via suicide missions, I like that idea, maybe a contest, which unwanted charr can survive the longest on their lonesome :D

It is the nature, both good and bad, of Thea, that you have no guarantees about what or who you will attract.

Anyway, cool thread, cheers!

[Kanjejou]

usually i use pineconnete and low level damon beast as mule, sinc ethey cant carry anythign and got around 250 400 in carry weight.