lets talk about hypsi.

[Gloofin]

first off, i haven't even played hypsi untill today. i just wanted to mess around without spending a large chunk of time, so hypsi was the perfect choice.

i have never witnessed something have such a unique ability yet be so very useless.
the spit particles go x3 as far as the little yellow line shows, and it zooms into a point where 95% of my screen is just me.

because of this, by the time you're able to blind someone you're already in their jaws. unless of course you spit at them unprovoked, but that seems like it defeats the entire purpose.

how to fix it? increase the range of the spit and don't force the camera to zoom in. that's it, those are the complaints in their entirety.

(also maybe add an indicator that spit uses hunger, nearly starved to death because i didn't see that lol)

[Tregrenos]

When Perks are added I think it'd be useful for there to be a perk that lowers your range, but causes a cone spread a short distance in front of you. This would allow the Hypsie to sacrifice their longshot for a shotgun effect that has more utility when actively being chased by something as it relies more on distance than accuracy. That, or make it a secondary attack that costs more Stamina to use.

#BarfBombHypsie

[Sable]

While the cone idea is great, you shouldn't need a perk to make use of the special ability in your disposal... that's like needing a perk so that Raptor Pounce or Deino Lunge can be useful.

OP said it as it is: Hypsilophodon spit is useless outside of bullying poor Stegosaurus who are too slow to catch it. It's worthless as a defense, as is the Jump mechanic put in place for it, when any and all other animals who can jump can achieve similar height without needing to charge it up and without taking half their stamina.

Fortunately Hypsilophodon's basic toolkit of agility is enough to allow it to survive, but at the end of the day, it's about the extra special mechanics it was given. Either make them useful or don't make it at all.

[Gloofin]

i agree with stoat, and in general i don't see how perks will be added in without ruining the balance of the game. (unrelated i'm quite a fan of your concepts for unreleased dinos). and while writing this i forgot to add:

the jump charge should be applied to everything that can jump! this would prevent spam jumping for things like dryo and utah, and overall just make it look better. and reduce the amount of stamina it takes for hypsi to do this, and keep it the same for the rest. or just remove the jump charge entirely, i don't see why hypsi needs 2 unique abilitys.

[Khanivore]

I agree Hypsi is gimped badly, you can of course "survive" well enough but its boring to do anything more than just run around

It's spit needs working on, if you get targeted by a pred its near useless to help, in fact trying to use it can get you killed very quickly, it actually makes your chances of survival worse not better, nice idea but poor implementation

[labratmode]

I think a few hypsi together can really troll. it's not a serious "career" dino or anyone's main but can mix things up when you feel like messing with people. if it can get speed/stam buff from diet or elder status then it'll be the trickster that annoys the piss out of anyone

[Sable]

Originally posted by TheRealWolf:

the jump charge should be applied to everything that can jump! this would prevent spam jumping for things like dryo and utah, and overall just make it look better. and reduce the amount of stamina it takes for hypsi to do this, and keep it the same for the rest. or just remove the jump charge entirely, i don't see why hypsi needs 2 unique abilitys.

Nothing should need to be gimped just because a single dinosaur is gimped. No need to ruin jump for everything else for the sake of a single dinosaur that not many play to begin with.

Easiest and best solution is your last statement: remove charged jump entirely.

Second easiest and second best solution: make Hypsilophodon's uncharged jump less useless and overall reduce stamina tax on it. At the very least, it should be able to jump over the many fallen logs in the woods without charging its jump.

As for spam jumping...

Spam jumping can be easier solved by making the stamina for jumping overall a little more taxing for repeated jumping. Let's say you jump 3 times, one after the other.

- first jump: takes 5% of stamina
- second jump: takes 10% of stamina
- third jump: 15% of stamina

And so on. It was already done before and is fairly simple as it's going in and changing some digits. The numbers can be tweaked in whichever manner, so long as it does its purpose. Utahraptor jumps 7 times without pause? Well, his stamina is gone and now he's a sitting duck.

Also:

Originally posted by TheRealWolf:

(unrelated i'm quite a fan of your concepts for unreleased dinos)

Thank you! I'm glad my concepts are still appreciated by some.

[Gloofin]

yeah that's fair, the main reason i suggested it is because the animation for charging up a jump looks nice.

[Madkou]

Instead of the spit, (bc it's size, speed and agility are usually enough to get away for me) I would have given the hypsi...

- Perching in tree branches. You can do it with a jump at times? But, let's face it, it looks more like an over sight on the devs part than anything lol. ACTUAL branch perching via a jump would be great.

- Perching on the backs of large herbies, and maybe the deino? Need a free/safe ride across a river? Hop onto a deinos back. Risky, but most deino and hypsi players would find that fun, I bet. :) The mechanic is easily transferable between the 2 ideas.

- Picking a resting deinos teeth for food. We see small birds doing this, yup. So, seems natural for the hypsi too. If they're picking leftovers (meat) from between a deino's teeth, wouldn't that make the hypsi an omnie, tho?

A thing to replace grazing like herbies usually do. I mean, why would you risk that if you could just graze in a field?

[Tregrenos]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2506840273

[Madkou]

haha X2! EBOLAAAA!

[Jelly the Fish]

Maybe for the spit mechanic, the C or X key has to be held down, and the mouse is what you aim with. Then, a bar displays how much of the blinding spit can be used. After the bar runs out, your hunger starts to deplete, or you just cannot use it anymore.

[Nearchus]

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2506840273

Too bad Uganda Knuckles died so quickly...

[Sable]

Originally posted by Madkou:

Instead of the spit, (bc it's size, speed and agility are usually enough to get away for me) I would have given the hypsi...

- Perching in tree branches. You can do it with a jump at times? But, let's face it, it looks more like an over sight on the devs part than anything lol. ACTUAL branch perching via a jump would be great.

- Perching on the backs of large herbies, and maybe the deino? Need a free/safe ride across a river? Hop onto a deinos back. Risky, but most deino and hypsi players would find that fun, I bet. :) The mechanic is easily transferable between the 2 ideas.

- Picking a resting deinos teeth for food. We see small birds doing this, yup. So, seems natural for the hypsi too. If they're picking leftovers (meat) from between a deino's teeth, wouldn't that make the hypsi an omnie, tho?

A thing to replace grazing like herbies usually do. I mean, why would you risk that if you could just graze in a field?

I can agree with tree-perching, but riding on the backs of carnivores is a giant stretch (herbivores is fine).

Also, an herbivore picking out meat is a no-go... disregarding the fact that birds do not actually pick a crocodile's teeth. That would be better suited for Compsognathus.

I would say to go full-send with placing it up in the trees. It's pretty much a bird-of-paradise, so why not commit with the theme of its design. Suits it far better than making it a ground-dwelling creature stuck with an advanced toolkit that ultimately doesn't help it more than its basic toolkit.

[Tregrenos]

For those unaware the devs have already stated over Discord that they’re giving Hypsie it’s own way of climbing trees, once the climbing system is added that is. They specifically worded it in a way that it’s probably not just gonna shimmy up the tree, but some other equally effective way. There may even be a limited selection of trees Hypsie can climb that will probably relate to nesting.

[RFK's Brain Worms]

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

For those unaware the devs have already stated over Discord that they’re giving Hypsie it’s own way of climbing trees, once the climbing system is added that is.

Welp, I definitely missed that in the discord. Yay