Deino should cause a water disturbance when it's moving quickly.

[Jimmy Felon]

It's going to seem pretty lame if a creature that size can swim underwater without any disturbance at the surface. It should have to approach it's prey extremely slow and patiently in order to sneak up on them. Is this planned for it's implementation at any point?

[Tregrenos]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2008/03/14/stealthy-alligators-dive-rise-and-roll-by-moving-their-lungs/

Crocodiles and alligators are the epitome of stealth. They can wait motionlessly for prey on the surface of the water, dive to the bottom, or roll around the length of their bodies, all without creating a single ripple.

[RebelCobra]

I would suggest watching some documentaries on crocodiles and alligators. They never create a disturbance when they're hunting or tracking prey.

[chagadiel]

They are working on it, as i have seen a video recently of testing of the much needed water physics and it looked really good with disturbance and footstep ripples. Not sure if it will in the next update but they are definatly working on it.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by chagadiel:

They are working on it, as i have seen a video recently of testing of the much needed water physics and it looked really good with disturbance and footstep ripples. Not sure if it will in the next update but they are definatly working on it.

Hopefully the ripples are turned off for Drino general movement. When they make a lunge attack then sure, ripple the water, but don’t ripple it if the Deino is just moving around.

[bigmoe808]

Wouldn't mind if it were possible for Deino to drift near the surface without causing ripples or bubbles.

[chagadiel]

if a croc is moving, it will cuase a wake if its moving through the surface. very slight wake depending on speed

[Baryonyx]

If it is swimming near the surface it should definitely cause ripples. If it is swimming at some depth, then not. If it is walking on the ground underwater, especially slowly, then no ripples.
I think this should be both realistic and balanced.

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by Baryonyx:

If it is swimming near the surface it should definitely cause ripples. If it is swimming at some depth, then not. If it is walking on the ground underwater, especially slowly, then no ripples.
I think this should be both realistic and balanced.

And yet, that’s not how crocs naturally work. They evolved to fill a very specific hunting niche and what you propose is like saying nature isn’t fair.

[Mike0811]

Honestly you never need to stay in the water for more than a few seconds in the game and the croc is slow as ♥♥♥♥ on land without finding people drinking and getting the grab its going to be hard to survive as a croc

[Baryonyx]

Originally posted by Tregrenos:

And yet, that’s not how crocs naturally work. They evolved to fill a very specific hunting niche and what you propose is like saying nature isn’t fair.

If it's swimming really slow, then there might be no sign other than a nose poking out, which should be hard to spot. If it is not sneaking, it should make ripples. That is just physics. Crocodiles are not excluded from it. I just have to google for "crocodile swimming" to find images of cros making ripples.
https://blog.mares.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/8001757.jpg

Also, you have to keep in mind the size difference between a modern crocodile or alligator and a Deinosuchus. Being a lot larger, they should have a harder time hiding, so you can't assume a 1:1 relation between the hunting behaviors of a Deino and a modern crocodile.

[Jimmy Felon]

Originally posted by Dalton Reutlinger:

I would suggest watching some documentaries on crocodiles and alligators. They never create a disturbance when they're hunting or tracking prey.

I would suggest learning to read.

"It should have to approach it's prey extremely slow and patiently in order to sneak up on them."

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about well water flows over it's scales. If a 20 foot monster is moved under the surface, you're going to see it, and you don't understand basic physics if you think that's not accurate.

[Jimmy Felon]

All I'm suggesting is that the Deino should not be able to sprint swim underwater without there being some sort of indicator.

Of course when it's sneaking or moving slow, it should be able to move undetected. The reason modern crocodiles are able to move undetected is largely because of how slowly and stealthily they can move. If they're swimming full speed, they absolutely create a disturbance unless, maybe, it's more than 4-5 feet underwater.

[Baryonyx]

Originally posted by Mike0811:

Honestly you never need to stay in the water for more than a few seconds in the game and the croc is slow as ♥♥♥♥ on land without finding people drinking and getting the grab its going to be hard to survive as a croc

To compensate, hunger could drop slower in Deinos. Fits with them being cold blooded unlike Dinosaurs, thus enabling their metabolism to go slower and burn less energy when not moving. But then you'd have to have the Deino be slow at night and fast in the day after sunbathing in the morning...

[Tregrenos]

Originally posted by Baryonyx:

Originally posted by Mike0811:

Honestly you never need to stay in the water for more than a few seconds in the game and the croc is slow as ♥♥♥♥ on land without finding people drinking and getting the grab its going to be hard to survive as a croc

To compensate, hunger could drop slower in Deinos. Fits with them being cold blooded unlike Dinosaurs, thus enabling their metabolism to go slower and burn less energy when not moving. But then you'd have to have the Deino be slow at night and fast in the day after sunbathing in the morning...

Not all reptiles are effected by the cold in the same way. Crocs are able to alter their metabolism and body regulations. They are able to slow their body so much during the winter it’s like a hibernation mode with only their noses poking out if the water. When the lake freezes around them they are not harmed and will continue to slowly breath, but remain immobile and not require food for quite a long time.

Green Iguana, however, cannot regulate their bodies in such a manner and need to sun bathe every morning, only becoming active when their core temp reaches a specific level. This is due largely to their digestive system needing this temp to function properly, an effect tied to them being strict herbivores that don’t need to expend energy chasing down their food. Carnivorous reptiles who are built to actively chase down their prey require less external forces, such as sun bathing, in order to be on the move.

[brownie689]

Originally posted by Jimmy Felon:

Originally posted by Dalton Reutlinger:

I would suggest watching some documentaries on crocodiles and alligators. They never create a disturbance when they're hunting or tracking prey.

I would suggest learning to read.

"It should have to approach it's prey extremely slow and patiently in order to sneak up on them."

I don't give a ♥♥♥♥ about well water flows over it's scales. If a 20 foot monster is moved under the surface, you're going to see it, and you don't understand basic physics if you think that's not accurate.

It's literally not accurate. You have no clue how crocodiles act or move in real life. These people are right. You do need to go watch some footage. A crocodile can sneak up to an animal at the very edge of the water without being seen or making a single ripple in the water. I've seen then sneak up on full grown lions and grab them by the face in an instant.