deinosuchus cannibalism

[bladeer01]

i do understand the point of deino cannibalism , to keep the population at a certain level , so not all server is made of crocs , but it need an option for survival ...

i mean as a land dino when you get a cannibal taking a liking to your blood , you can RUN , and hide , and if you are good you can even give some bite back , sure the bigger party have a way bigger chance of victory , but at least you can do something ...

i'm sick of growing a croc to 70/75% then to see a full grow just grab me then end my 3 hours worth of grind in 10 sec , in water you can't hide once he saw you , if you are a size smaller you are grabbed and can't do sht , sure you can outsmam a bigger croc , but you can't outrun it since he is faster than you ( exept if he didn't get the hydrodynamic mut , but most croc get it )

i'm waiting for all your strategies for survival and your words of why i'm a ♥♥♥♥♥ , but i do believe either deino shouldn't be part of deino diet , or the need for something viable to escape the death sentence ...

[bladeer01]

bump

[PieceOfPeace]

Playing as a solo Deino is a waste of time. The only thing you can do, is to find a friend and grow together.
I've lost full grown Deinos in 2 vs 1 situations worth 60 hours of playtime, maybe more. I don't play them anymore.

[Botji]

Deino has become the DayZ experience as anyone with some foresight could predict it would when they became cannibals.

As PieceOfPeace said its a waste of time playing it if you do not have one or a couple of friends that are willing to play whenever you feel like playing. Without that even if you survive to 100% as a solo you WILL simply die to one of the groups of Deinos who do play like its DayZ grouping up and killing anything and everything that is not in their group. "loot/food" does not matter, you are dead the moment they see or hear you because you are at least a 1% threat so they have to kill you.

They are also bored out of their minds since the only thing that is a challenge is another group of Deinos as long as they stay in the water so the knowledge that they killed your 100% Deino and probably at least somewhat ruined your evening is the best content they can get in the game.

[Hangoverhomey]

Originally posted by Botji:

Deino has become the DayZ experience as anyone with some foresight could predict it would when they became cannibals.

As PieceOfPeace said its a waste of time playing it if you do not have one or a couple of friends that are willing to play whenever you feel like playing. Without that even if you survive to 100% as a solo you WILL simply die to one of the groups of Deinos who do play like its DayZ grouping up and killing anything and everything that is not in their group. "loot/food" does not matter, you are dead the moment they see or hear you because you are at least a 1% threat so they have to kill you.

They are also bored out of their minds since the only thing that is a challenge is another group of Deinos as long as they stay in the water so the knowledge that they killed your 100% Deino and probably at least somewhat ruined your evening is the best content they can get in the game.

That about sums it up yeah. Honestly, this game needs AI dinos roaming around to give people stuff to fight and eat or die to. It will help fill up the map and make it not so boring.

[bladeer01]

ye , i don't feel alone anymore xd , happened again , two small tried to hunt me and failed , later a big one got me ... at highland lake , the lake that is big enought to feed 10 crocs .... guess if i play deino again i'll just go to the small pond with way less activity ...

[Nobody]

Du kommst als Deino nicht überall hin wo kleine seen sind.Growtime viel zu lange.Zu viele Idioten die nur zum Spass töten.Im wahren Leben sind es Loser die sonst nichts haben.Und auch meist grosse Feiglinge.Ist wirklich so Habe mal einen kennengelernt.


As a Deino you can't go everywhere where there are small lakes. Growing time is far too long. Too many idiots who kill just for fun. In real life they are losers who have nothing else. And mostly big cowards. It's really like that. I met one once.

[rustyOkin]

Another issue that noone seems to notice is the map. Spiro was also plagued with cannibalism but on Gateway it's even worse in my opinion.
1. The main water sources aren't connected which means it's much easier for other playables to just avoid Deinos. Yes, I know you can reach south plains river as a croc as well but it's still a hassle.
2. There are many tiny puddles that you can drink from.
3. Pretty much every lake or swamp has countless shallow spots where it's completely safe to drink. I can't even remember when I died to a croc ambush the last time simply because I know the spots and abuse them.

This makes it even harder to actually catch anything which results in even more cannibalism. I played as a solo croc on Spiro for a long time and it has always been rough but Gateway really made me stop playing Deino completely.

[FlappeKopp]

Take out dmg Deino vs Deino and implement some different dangerous Water Creatures, there will be enough to do...Water are the most restricted Area atm and it would be more Sense to have some natural Allies, this Game is not developed to keep Water Creatures alive senseful, theres no Escape, its not nessessary to keep the Population because there are Areas where you can drink Water without a Threat... So Deino could be starve when they avoid the Migration Zones even without getting f by Cannis. Fishes are not enough when Deinos are maxed... Mixpacking (even Carni/Herbi Discord/Ts Communication) could be the worst Thing when you are not save in the Water AND not save at Land, makes Deino the easiest Way to get the Deadlinescreen... I prefer to avoid the Game instead getting forced to play another Creature. I baught ziss Geme because ze fuqqin Crawc and nau its unplaeable wissaut to do Teamdeassmatch... 🥴

[Mikester1188]

You should just be given negative multipliers for cannibalism that last for hours, and if you log off before the negative multipliers are gone,they restart.... should cause you're hunger to increase by 500-1000% and stamina to drain by 500% quicker. Pretty much making it almost impossible to survive

[FlappeKopp]

Originally posted by Mikester1188:

You should just be given negative multipliers for cannibalism that last for hours, and if you log off before the negative multipliers are gone,they restart.... should cause you're hunger to increase by 500-1000% and stamina to drain by 500% quicker. Pretty much making it almost impossible to survive

Would be good Way too yes, but this have to happen since the first Attack or People could just kill you without eating.

[Mochi]

I imagine this will get better when they add more large aquatic like sucho/spino in 5 years lol. Wish they would also fix the map, Gateway is way too large and the only way for deinos to live is either find a hotspot or swim for hours in the longest rivers in existence and find other crocs to cannibalize.

[FlappeKopp]

And there are 2 Problems again, 1. Swimming for Hours because there is nothing 2. When it sees annada Croc Cannibalism goes over 9000. Reason? Swimming for Hours because there was nothing and finally sees annada Croc causes Cannibalism over 9000... Yes the Circle of the Deinotrouble^^ xD Implementing Suchos and Spinos wouldnt fix the Cannibal Problem unfortunateley, cuz Suchos and Spinos could Mixpack with Deinos too to kill another Deinos Suchos or Spinos. In such restrictet Areas like Lakes or Rivers, the DMG against the Same Species should have to be disabled as long Devs are unable to solve this Problem, to bring more sensefull Gameplay instead of stupid Deathmachtes in Waters. In that Way its maybe the best Thing dont implement Suchos and Spinos too early.

[Nobody]

Cannibalism gone, mixpack gone-problem solved.Debug for all.

[jfoytek]

Honestly the easiest fix in my honest opinion is to turn Name Tag's on All the time not just in a group..... So us Deino's who are friendly and don't eat each other and those who do can develop reputation's.... You will learn who you can trust and who you need to avoid.... And eventually the good guys will then be able to team up against the bad as soon as they are seen.....

[Borat]

Originally posted by rustyOkin:

Another issue that noone seems to notice is the map. Spiro was also plagued with cannibalism but on Gateway it's even worse in my opinion.
1. The main water sources aren't connected which means it's much easier for other playables to just avoid Deinos. Yes, I know you can reach south plains river as a croc as well but it's still a hassle.
2. There are many tiny puddles that you can drink from.
3. Pretty much every lake or swamp has countless shallow spots where it's completely safe to drink. I can't even remember when I died to a croc ambush the last time simply because I know the spots and abuse them.

This makes it even harder to actually catch anything which results in even more cannibalism. I played as a solo croc on Spiro for a long time and it has always been rough but Gateway really made me stop playing Deino completely.

Its just a question of lazyness if you want to drink at a safe spot or not that's all. Many players dont care and take the risk but its more like a 50/50 hahaha