i cant deal with this anymore

[BurntFish]

i started playing the isle back when evrima first became public. i enjoy this game even with all the bugs and slow development. but i just cannot play the game anymore evrima is filled to the brim with toxic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to the point where you have to be a stego to survive at all. im sick of the cannis sick of the mixpacking and megapacking and im tired of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥ stego players, any time i just try to enjoy the game with others it gets ruined, and im not talking about just getting killed by enemies, my own nested in babys kill each other without reason, not all isle players are bad theres plenty of them who are great to play the game with, but the majority of evrima is such a toxic pile of ♥♥♥♥ that it ruins any fun that can be had in the game, i know that many other people have this same problem but it just cant be fixed, the developers cant even help, the entire problem is how edgy everyone is people just need to calm the ♥♥♥♥ down a stego will spend 30+ minutes trying to kill a baby troodon these people only play the game to annoy others i will not play a game that is so filled with narcissistic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. but if the community calms down and things just get normal, i would totally go back to the game. but until then im done finished with all this crap i will return if the evrima community is normal.

[Khanivore]

Play on rules based private servers, this is exactly the reason why they exist, no need to bang your head against the wall

[BurntFish]

all the rule based servers i can find all have stupid rules, i dont care about standing around waiting for a corpse to despawn or worry about getting in trouble for 3 calling as a herbi. i get that im playing on no rules server but you can barely find populated servers anyway, so finding a server with good rules and a decent amount of players is like finding a needle in a haystack

[Khanivore]

Found your needle

Try 'Islander Semi-Realism Discord server' (fewer rules over all)

You will need to register in this servers discord and get approved, this is to keep out bad actors, the types of rubbish players your talking about

The server also has a healthy population most times of the day as well

[BurntFish]

Originally posted by Khanivore:

Found your needle

Try 'Islander Semi-Realism Discord server' (fewer rules over all)

You will need to register in this servers discord and get approved, this is to keep out bad actors, the types of rubbish players your talking about

The server also has a healthy population most times of the day as well

hm you might have something there, ill check this out.

[Madkou]

It's hard to say what evrima's officials will turn out like, TBH. It's a mess right now yup lol. Itn also put a bad foot forwards first. First impressions set the stage for it, but if the mechanics do a solid job at actually managing players like in legacy? It'll turn around.

I wasn't there pre-legacy official server rules, but I suspect they were as bad then too lol.

[BurntFish]

Originally posted by Madkou:

It's hard to say what evrima's officials will turn out like, TBH. It's a mess right now yup lol. Itn also put a bad foot forwards first. First impressions set the stage for it, but if the mechanics do a solid job at actually managing players like in legacy? It'll turn around.

I wasn't there pre-legacy official server rules, but I suspect they were as bad then too lol.

legacy official servers were actually good

[Vepar]

Play legacy,evirma is crap anyway.

[BurntFish]

Originally posted by Vepar:

Play legacy,evirma is crap anyway.

evrima is just a little barebones right now, legacy has a better community but the combat sucks a lot.

[ISI]

legacy and officail server have the same amount of management, I don't know why people like legacy more.

[joe.alton1]

If you want to play The Isle without teamkillers, cannibals, whatever, then go to a server with rules.

[DUI_Stryfe]

I think toxic players are present in relatively equal amounts in every game. The Isle doesn't have more or less than any other game but there are things that can make the problem seem more prevalent. It should be noted that this often happens for different reasons depending on the species.

Herbies will teamkill occasionally out of simple boredom. There is no option to die or log and spawn in as something else.

The larger carnivores will do it to avoid starvation. This creates a cycle where they don't trust each other and may kill each other just to avoid being backstabbed later.

Luckily for the developers both of these are solved with one change.

Raise Officials to 200 players

Herbivores won't be bored when they are actually in danger. No need to kill a fellow pachy if there is a raptor to bludgeon. You wouldn't kill other herbies either because having them around increases your odds of survival. We will actually see herds form naturally which would be awesome.

The carnivores will still occasionally engage in this. Mostly because there will be so many carnivores running around that you'll have to. But apex carnivores not trusting each other and forming huge packs is a GOOD thing.

When you look at the situation with smaller carnivores you don't see the team killing and cannibalism. Troodons and Raptors don't kill each other. Part of this is the larger group size but more importantly they hunt for food at great risk to themselves AND they have predators that would gladly kill them for a meal.

The TLDR is:

People teamkill because there aren't enough threats on the map for them to avoid boredom. Make sure every dino has a weakness that can be exploited and has to risk their neck to eat. And you'll solve your problem. If you have predators and prey that could end you, team-killing is the last thing on your mind.

[BurntFish]

Originally posted by DUI_Stryfe:

I think toxic players are present in relatively equal amounts in every game. The Isle doesn't have more or less than any other game but there are things that can make the problem seem more prevalent. It should be noted that this often happens for different reasons depending on the species.

Herbies will teamkill occasionally out of simple boredom. There is no option to die or log and spawn in as something else.

The larger carnivores will do it to avoid starvation. This creates a cycle where they don't trust each other and may kill each other just to avoid being backstabbed later.

Luckily for the developers both of these are solved with one change.

Raise Officials to 200 players

Herbivores won't be bored when they are actually in danger. No need to kill a fellow pachy if there is a raptor to bludgeon. You wouldn't kill other herbies either because having them around increases your odds of survival. We will actually see herds form naturally which would be awesome.

The carnivores will still occasionally engage in this. Mostly because there will be so many carnivores running around that you'll have to. But apex carnivores not trusting each other and forming huge packs is a GOOD thing.

When you look at the situation with smaller carnivores you don't see the team killing and cannibalism. Troodons and Raptors don't kill each other. Part of this is the larger group size but more importantly they hunt for food at great risk to themselves AND they have predators that would gladly kill them for a meal.

The TLDR is:

People teamkill because there aren't enough threats on the map for them to avoid boredom. Make sure every dino has a weakness that can be exploited and has to risk their neck to eat. And you'll solve your problem. If you have predators and prey that could end you, team-killing is the last thing on your mind.

i think you have a lot of good points but the servers get wonky at 200 players, and i think most KOSing is just generally toxic players who dont really care about the game and are taking advantage of perm death

[justipudi]

Originally posted by GoldenFox:

Originally posted by Khanivore:

Found your needle

Try 'Islander Semi-Realism Discord server' (fewer rules over all)

You will need to register in this servers discord and get approved, this is to keep out bad actors, the types of rubbish players your talking about

The server also has a healthy population most times of the day as well

hm you might have something there, ill check this out.

Also you may check out the petit pieds Server. Has just little rules. Also a Player cap of 140 and running way smoother than the EU officials 😁
Of course, sometimes you see jerks (I encountered some Teno Cannis some time ago) but u can mostly avoid them by being a little cautious. Said Tenos, when I wrote "hi" in chat just started running at me... Well I was outta there really fast 🤣
So don't be too trusting and you can make your playthrough a nice experience most of the time 😉

[Madkou]

For some players, it's as simple as no carnivore mixing! It rly is the last line of defence before things look and play truly unrealistic. Herbies mixing? Sure, as long as the mixing isn't a PVP problem bc of the mixing, right?

No carnies mixing is what sets it apart from something like POT, or primal carnage. Let carnie mixing go unchecked too much, and yer just doing the same thing those games are doing haha. Realism just flew out the window! The last line was crossed haha.

i say "unchecked too much" bc you can never completely get rid of that. It's when it's rly deliberate, planned and gets out of hand for far too long is when it's a problem for players.

I heard punch say pretty much the same thing i just said there about it never rly going away and players are players, but evrima officials have ZERO say in that atm haha. So ya, that management for the official is still very much missing.

I think it should be a toggle tho, for player servers. Anything they do to manage it, I mean. So you don't force that on player servers, ofc. IF.. IF, that's still their plan and I rly do hope it is. My last talk with punch was encouraging, but it's still just talk, ATM.