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thisisdemo Jul 20, 2022 @ 11:52pm
Stego eats too many pumpkin
It is not realistic an adult stego would eat more than 25 PUmpkins to get full. Come on guys.....
Last edited by thisisdemo; Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:29am
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Meriwether Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:10am 
How many pumpkins should a 7-ton dinosaur eat?
thisisdemo Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:33am 
Originally posted by Meriwether:
How many pumpkins should a 7-ton dinosaur eat?
I would say around 10.. btw i want you to make a video of you eating the pumpkins
Last edited by thisisdemo; Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:34am
Meriwether Jul 21, 2022 @ 3:49am 
Originally posted by thisisdemo:
Originally posted by Meriwether:
How many pumpkins should a 7-ton dinosaur eat?
I would say around 10.. btw i want you to make a video of you eating the pumpkins

I'm not a 7-ton dinosaur. Would a video about a hippo (half the size) demolishing large watermelons suffice?
KriegDaddy Jul 21, 2022 @ 10:25am 
Watch out yall, this man knows EXACTLY how many pumpkins a 7 ton dinosaur needs to fill up. This man has seen and studied all 343 different sub-species of stegos from the artic to the pacific islands. He is a well known expert on how many insignificant fruits each dinosaur needs as he has single handedly funded and researched gene therapy to bring about the return of the dinosaurs specifically the stego. Amazing man this one.
Free Luigi M. Jul 21, 2022 @ 10:29am 
Food values are all extremely low. Not sure what the devs were going for here, but they only achieved maximum player annoyance.
Zeus14 Jul 21, 2022 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by thisisdemo:
It is not realistic an adult stego would eat more than 25 PUmpkins to get full. Come on guys.....

25 pumpkins seems realistic to me. For example, a white rhino (females weigh about 3,700lbs and really big males up to 5,500lbs) eats about 120-165 lbs of vegetation per day. A carving pumpkin (which do not grow as large in nature) used for decorations and to carve faces into, called a "face pumpkin" (for obvious reasons) weighs about 12lbs on average. So 25x12=300. So 300lbs. A white rhino could eat half of that by itself. A male could eat more than half.

A stegosaurus could weigh anywhere from 8,000lbs on the small end (as an adult), to over 11,000lbs. So we can safely assume that a stegosaurus would eat atleast 250lbs of vegetation per day. 200lbs minimum. Doesn't seem unrealsitic to me at all. Elephants can eat up to 320lbs of vegetation per day. Full grown adult bull elephants can weight up to 13,000 lbs. So in the range of a stegosaurus roughly. If an elephant can eat over 300lbs in a day, it is nowhere near unrealistic or unreasonable to assume that a stegosaurus could.

I don't see it as unrealistic at all.
Rhibirr Jul 21, 2022 @ 1:32pm 
I dunno. Maybe it IS a little weird. All those numbers posted above are from animals that graze over time and is talking about over the whole day not for one meal.

A real stego probubly did the same but Isle dinos of all kinds are bulk feeders, eatting a large amount in one sitting and then moving on to look for another thing to eat a large amount of in one sitting. This means their stomach size should be taken into consideration. Of course the isle deves COULD have turned the food this way to try and sort of simulate grazing where the animal would hang out in an area for a good amount of time before moving on.

It may also be to allow higher nutrient gain because you know what I noticed playing a teno just recently? My nutrients seemed to increase faster then my stomach. By quite a bit.
Zeus14 Jul 21, 2022 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by Rhibirr:
I dunno. Maybe it IS a little weird. All those numbers posted above are from animals that graze over time and is talking about over the whole day not for one meal.

A real stego probubly did the same but Isle dinos of all kinds are bulk feeders, eatting a large amount in one sitting and then moving on to look for another thing to eat a large amount of in one sitting. This means their stomach size should be taken into consideration. Of course the isle deves COULD have turned the food this way to try and sort of simulate grazing where the animal would hang out in an area for a good amount of time before moving on.

It may also be to allow higher nutrient gain because you know what I noticed playing a teno just recently? My nutrients seemed to increase faster then my stomach. By quite a bit.

This is a video game...... Are you actually requesting that the devs make you hold E for 5 hours to fill up by grazing for hours or you starve? lol. If you want to be super realistic, then all you will do as a herbivore is eat. That's what herbivores do. They eat all day long from sunrise to sunset. they eat and ♥♥♥♥. 24/7 with a break to sleep and maybe mate once a year. then they go back to eating and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all day.

It's a game, mate... that has to be fun. So there's a diet system where different food are located at different areas. You can fill up on one so it lasts until they can fill up on another so you can actually meet the entire diet requirement. The same amount of food is being consumed within the same amount of time, but its fun. It's just arranged in a way which means you get to play and do other things rather than just hold E and eat the entire time. But the argument still stands. A stegosaur could easily eat 25 pumpkins in a day. To suggest it could only eat 10 is just silly. For all we know the stegosaur ate WAYY more than it's mammallian equivalents. It's an animal which we only know what the bones tell us. And this is a video game. if eating 25 pumpkins is just too intense for you, then maybe survival sims aren't your thing.
Gloofin Jul 21, 2022 @ 1:58pm 
i mean i do kind of like the idea of giving grazing a purpose given how useless it is now., most i've seen it used for is "eating" bodies. but eating that many pumpkins seems perfectly normal. i would love if they added those massive pumpkins for the same diet.
bigmoe808 Jul 21, 2022 @ 2:30pm 
Guys, I don't mean to rain on the parade against realism but I think the more important question is if it's grounded and balanced. How likely is a Stego going to come across 25 pumpkins, does it facilitate the right amount of movement? That ♥♥♥♥.
Gloofin Jul 21, 2022 @ 5:10pm 
the pumpkins usually spawn in clumps of ~10 and the clumps themselves are not too far apart from each other usually. 25 are very easy to get.
Botji Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
Well, today I hunted 2 boars with a full grown utah and ate them both by myself.. got just a little over 50% from that.

Boars are not exactly super common to find within a short time period and usually utahs are, well more than one, so it seems kinda weird how little food they give. Especially considering the boar is actually chonkier than a full grown utha so not only does it make little sense for a utah to only get like 25-30% food from one it also LOOKS weird to put like 3 times as much mass as yourself into your mouth and only being half full afterwards.

Idk it just feels like food in general needs to either give you more per 'item', last longer, be more common/numerous or some combination of these.

I mean I get that its a game so its more due to game balance and driving players to have to interact with each other but atm the values are off and makes it feel both stressful and arcadey at the same time like you are playing a TDM game where you gotta frag as much people as possible as fast as possible.
thisisdemo Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:29pm 
Originally posted by 18Zeus84:
Originally posted by Rhibirr:
I dunno. Maybe it IS a little weird. All those numbers posted above are from animals that graze over time and is talking about over the whole day not for one meal.

A real stego probubly did the same but Isle dinos of all kinds are bulk feeders, eatting a large amount in one sitting and then moving on to look for another thing to eat a large amount of in one sitting. This means their stomach size should be taken into consideration. Of course the isle deves COULD have turned the food this way to try and sort of simulate grazing where the animal would hang out in an area for a good amount of time before moving on.

It may also be to allow higher nutrient gain because you know what I noticed playing a teno just recently? My nutrients seemed to increase faster then my stomach. By quite a bit.

This is a video game...... Are you actually requesting that the devs make you hold E for 5 hours to fill up by grazing for hours or you starve? lol. If you want to be super realistic, then all you will do as a herbivore is eat. That's what herbivores do. They eat all day long from sunrise to sunset. they eat and ♥♥♥♥. 24/7 with a break to sleep and maybe mate once a year. then they go back to eating and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ all day.

It's a game, mate... that has to be fun. So there's a diet system where different food are located at different areas. You can fill up on one so it lasts until they can fill up on another so you can actually meet the entire diet requirement. The same amount of food is being consumed within the same amount of time, but its fun. It's just arranged in a way which means you get to play and do other things rather than just hold E and eat the entire time. But the argument still stands. A stegosaur could easily eat 25 pumpkins in a day. To suggest it could only eat 10 is just silly. For all we know the stegosaur ate WAYY more than it's mammallian equivalents. It's an animal which we only know what the bones tell us. And this is a video game. if eating 25 pumpkins is just too intense for you, then maybe survival sims aren't your thing.
I didn't say 1 day. I said in one sitting
thisisdemo Jul 21, 2022 @ 6:31pm 
I should of added that it's not fun in the game. I don't want it to be super realistic
thisisdemo Jul 21, 2022 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by Botji:
Well, today I hunted 2 boars with a full grown utah and ate them both by myself.. got just a little over 50% from that.

Boars are not exactly super common to find within a short time period and usually utahs are, well more than one, so it seems kinda weird how little food they give. Especially considering the boar is actually chonkier than a full grown utha so not only does it make little sense for a utah to only get like 25-30% food from one it also LOOKS weird to put like 3 times as much mass as yourself into your mouth and only being half full afterwards.

Idk it just feels like food in general needs to either give you more per 'item', last longer, be more common/numerous or some combination of these.

I mean I get that its a game so its more due to game balance and driving players to have to interact with each other but atm the values are off and makes it feel both stressful and arcadey at the same time like you are playing a TDM game where you gotta frag as much people as possible as fast as possible.
Yes exactly my thoughts! The update made me realize it is becoming more stressful and less fun
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