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I know it's not what you want to hear, but its true. You just got to get better at the game and this includes knowing to avoid certain things. I know people don't like hearing it. But that's nature. Sometimes other herbivores do kill other herbivores. Nothing you can do about it. What do you suggest? Ban people from killing other herbs? Make stego weaker than teno? won't teno just be the OP dino then? I've been killed by random tenos running up to me and kicking me to death as a baby stego without provocation. The entire theme of the game is survival and part of it is natural selection. Learn from the experiences and use it to do better next time. Some animals in nature do kill for fun, contrary to popular opinion. Dolphins have been seen not only killing other lone dolphins, but sharks and small/young isolated whales etc...
I found out the hard was that as a deino player, you're just food for 99% of bigger deino players. Can suck getting killed half a dozen times until they figure out how to adapt and overcome. Now i trust nobody as a deino. Not until i'm an adult and even then i watch how other behave to see if they're trying to maneuver behind me to bite me. That's just what you need to do. And it shouldn't be mentally exhausting. Its just a video game. You're going to die. that's a guarantee. Happens to every single player regularly. Don't be so invested in a video game. I've been killed by "toxic" players more times than i can count. I've been attacked and killed by other pteras as a baby, had pachys kill me as as a ptera, been chased down and killed by adult dryos as a baby carno, been pounced and killed by other utahs etc.... The only common denominator in all is that it was avoidable had i acted differentlyn and been more wary.. We cant change how douchey people play. But we can be better at the game so douchey people cant kill us in douchey ways. thats the beauty of the games design.
In general, if youre good at the game, you cant easily be killed.
This isn't a "get guud situation", this is a player with some serious problems if this particular stego was based and just minding its own business and not interfering with others fights (the way it should be) the game would be in a much more fun state.
But that's nature. Sometimes other herbivores do kill other herbivores. Nothing you can do about it. What do you suggest?
Adding a larger predator for stego to worry about you will see a drastic change in behavior with those kind of players cause now there not gonna mess with small tiers if there constantly on the move to get away from their predators they have to worry about (but that's gonna take a long time), 2nd option inability to friendly fire, this will discourage/prevent players especially in a group to not accidentally hit each other when fighting or if they purposely want to kill you they simply can't and at least you know you haven't wasted your time playing your favorite dino everybody is happy and you won't here people complaining no more about this issue. I have more suggestions but that's to much ranting.
You're going to die. that's a guarantee.
As long as I die fairly I couldn't care less
killed by adult dryos as a baby carno
This is understandable carno is dryo natural predator so killing you was a necessity to remove a potential threat.
Disagree. This is 100% a get good situation. How do you get killed by an animal that's sprint cant catch a carno walking? you have to let that happen. The stego cannot catch anything in the game. literally nothing. Even an adult slow as a snail deino on land at a sprint is as fast as the stego at a sprint. You literally have to walk up to it or let it walk up to you, in order to die by its hand. That is a 100% *you* issue. a skill issue.
As for the animal to kill the stego demand. You'd just be complaining about the large apex carnivore killing you, too. If stego is too OP and unfair (its the slowest animal in the game and the only way it can kill you is if you LET it walk up to you), how would a much stronger, but much faster (by necessity) faster carnivore not be OP? makes no sense. What stops that animal from killing other carnivores for fun? Why isn't that unfair? and besides that fact, i fail to see how that apex carni would've stopped this situation from occuring. this stego player wouldn't have killed you if there was a large carnivore on the map somewhere? how do you figure that?
And The devs already explained why a "no friendly fire" mode would not only be unrealistic, but cheap. What stops a bunch of dinosaurs from just standing atop eachother spamming attacks to instant kill anything they find? friendly fire makes it so they have to be smart and plan where they attack so they don't hurt their buddy. if you can just spam attacks sitting atop eachother and it poses no risk to your herd or pack, they'd be unbeatable. just mesh together as a group sitting atop eachother and spam attack. nothing could defeat you unless they did the same thing with their pack/herd. It would be ridiculous.
And if a dryo chasing down a baby carno to kill is ok because its a potential future threat. Which i'm fine with, btw. I have no complaints. I let myself get killed by being where i shoulnt have been. But if thats ok (which it is), Then the stego killing you was ok. Its getting rid of competition for limited food in the area. Stegos need huge amounts of food. The food is limited.
Sounds to me like you're just angry because you got killed. you weren't killed in an "unfair" way. they didn't hack or glitch or cheat etc... they walked up to you and killed you. nothing unfair about it. You didnt have to let a stego walk right up to you. Just like i didn't need to let the teno who killed me as a baby stego walk up to me and kick me. Learn and move on. Nothing else you can do. Whining about it does nothing.
Stegs will have their own issues when the larger preds come and they cant run away
Legacy is worse, tho. So that makes no sense, mate. In what way is legacy not boring but evrima is? evrima has more players, a wider range of playstyles, motivation to wander the map to meet diets etc... All the dinosaurs play the same with no variety in legacy. Just having more dinosaurs but with zero depth or variety isn't of any real value by comparison. There's no flying, no real swimming, no jungles, no aquatic/semi-aquatics, No diet requirements, no proper rivers and no danger from the water because nothings in the rivers, no scavengers etc..... Evrima is objectively superior and has more content even now. Besides nesting/skins. Which should be releasing soon. If all you want is just more dinosaurs but don't care if they're unique or have any abilities or special skills. then i suppose legacy would be for you. If your desire is just a bunch of dinosaurs that are essentially reskins. But i have a feeling most people who want a dino survival sim would prefer a deep game where theres fewer dinos but each is fun and an entirely unique experience. with a much deeper ecosystem and wider range of ecological nichs to fill. atleast id think so.
Except they have terrible stamina and gas out after running for 10 steps. And it's a bit of a joke to call their fat man Trott running.
Also the slowest dino in game that any dino can just walk away from. What this is really is "a case of I'm a carno and all herbies should be my food". Stego young are everyone's snack and only when we hit full grown we aren't.
The only exception is deinos need some sort of love in the department of keeping swimming stegos in the water longer so it can't swing its tail. I suggest a alt attack that has a small knock back.
No. Just get better at the game, mate. genuinely. take responsibility for your own bad playing and quit trying to blame everything else. It will never stop. If they made the stego a weak easily killed animal, you'd be totally happy because now your bad playing can end with you getting an easy kill. Weird how you'd not be complaining about balance, then. Then you'd shift your whining onto the next strongest herbivore. You'd be complaining that the teno is "OP" and needs a nerf.
The last line you typed is a total lie. the stego cant "be used to wipe the ground of other dinos". The stego cannot catch anyother animal in the game. You cannot be "wiped the ground" with by any stego unless you're such a bad player you're for some reason standing still and letting a stego slowly trot up to you and kill you. a stego on standby is useless. lol. What can it do? it cannot stop an adult carno from grabbing a young pachy, cant stop a utah from grabbing anything etc.... they can slowly "run" around swinging their tail trying to hit you. Which you can avoid by just walking in a straight line.
Just quit whining and get better. If you're getting wiped by stegos regularly, you just suck at the game, mate. That's just the truth. The devs wont (and should't) be catering to bad players. A survival game is supposed to be.... ya'know. hard to survive in. that's the entire mechanic and goal. Its not supposed to be easy mode for bad players to get easy kills so they feel good about themselves for being bad. Its not hard to be good enough to survive, It just requires using your brain and not doing dumb stuff... like, idk. standing still waiting for a stego to kill you.
I've played both, and griefing is substantially more prevalent in Evrima, and that's because of the lack of dinosaurs, nightvision, an underdeveloped, monotonous map, horrid AI (this is probably the worst factor), and there being literally nothing else to do besides kill other players at the moment.
And before the obligatory: "You're probably just bad at the game." I am. But even when I first started out playing Legacy 3-4 years ago, when I was really, really bad, I still had fun. Exploring, hunting AI, hiding from predators. I've got around 150-200 hours into Evrima, and I can say with confidence that less than ten hours of that has been any real "fun" whatsoever. And most of that was flying around with the Ptera and trying to dive attack other players, which gets boring quickly since you will never, ever be able to kill anything with that dino.
There's a pretty endless list of things that are wrong with Legacy, and I'm sure Evrima will be "oBjEcTiVeLy" better when it's filled out. But right now it can barely be called a game.
Again, the arguments you guys keep using make no sense, though. So you had fun in legacy because you could "Explore, hunt AI, Hide from predators". All things you can do in evrima. Evrimas map is not even up for debate, its superior. not even up for debate, i repeat. Legacys map is empty, no vegetation, the rivers are literally just clear water 1' deep on an open flat plain. They're empty, no life in them etc.... Evrimas map, isla spiro is literally a real island in its design and feels like it. Rivers have vegetation around them, have depth, have things in them, the jungles are thick, tall trees of different species with unique designes etc.... Maybe you don't like a realistic island. Fair. But that's not evidence the game is bad.
And i do the obligatory "you should get better at the game", because that's literally the issue. All your complaints come down to "i got killed and its not fair!! [inset whatever animal killed you] NEEDS TO BE NERFED!! This game sucks!!" and "*plays the game in a strange illogical way and gets bored* This game sucks!!!"
How about we do this. Explain why legacy is better. None of you have given a coherent answer. Everything you list is even more true of evrima. Which tells me you're just whining about evrima because you're not good at the game, the game doesn't hold your hand and carebear you like legacy does by comparison, you get killed and then get angry you were killed so you whine about how the game sucks or [insert animal that killed you] is broken and OP etc...
I'm not pointing out that you're a bad player or that you (meaning anyone complaining in this manner) need to just get better and learn from your experiences so you better survive next time, i'm not doing that maliciously or to be mean. I'm just being honest. Every complaint i've seen here has been irrational. All of these issues could be solved by just getting better at the game and learning from the failure so you avoid it next time. there's no reason you should be getting killed by stegos all the time. As has been said, you literally have to let them catch you in order to be killed by them. They aren't sneaking up on you, they sound like falling trees as they walk, they aren't chasing you down and catching you despite you trying to flee. They cant outrun a deino on land. So how do you keep getting killed by that animal if not for the fact you're just not good at the game and don't know any better? which is fine. Everyone is bad at the game at some point. But get better. that's the solution. The solution isn't to alter the entire game because a bad player got killed. It's a survival game. The point is that it's hard to survive.
You can be upset that another player killed you. But again, its not cheating, its not against the rules and its not unrealistic in regards to how animals behave in nature. The solution isn't to alter the entire game because you aren't good at the game/haven't learned how to play it, the solution is to just get better. This includes not flying around as a pteranodon for hours trying to peck animals 10x your size to death. If this is boring to you (as you suggested)... then just stop doing that. i fail to see how your optional behavior in game, is evidence the game is boring.
Play as a larger carnivore or a larger herbivore if you want to fight and kill other big animals. pteranodon isn't supposed to be killing adult utahs and stegos. It can grab brand new fresh spawn baby utahs, dryos or hypsi. otherwise you eat fish, frogs, crabs etc...
Why are you running around on land as a deino? lol. You guys seem oblivious to how silly you sound.
"HEY!!! THE CARNOTAURUS KILLED ME WHEN I WAS CRAWLING AROUND AS A BABY PTERA!!! THEY HAVE WAYYYY TOO MUCH POWER!!!!!"
Again, i have to say it. Get better at the game. there's no reason you should be running around on land trying to fight stegos as a deino. that's stupid and it's your own fault when you die. Yes, the stegos is supposed to be more adept at running on land for longer periods, than a crocodillian. This isn't news to anyone. A nile crocodile has less stamina on land than a buffalo does. this is shocking to you?