Reshade usage in The Isle (Developer Opinion Wanted)

[COL PRIME TIME]

About 3 days ago at this point, I was banned from a private server for using Reshade, a program specializing in changing the color, saturation, gamma, adding Anti-Aliasing, lense flares, and a boat load of other effects, to the game.

Now, this server was private, I understand that the developers give server owners complete control on how they run their servers, but up until that point I had not known there was any negative stigma from the usage of it.

I fear now that I may be banned from official servers permanently for using it, and I know I am not the only one, as a random I was grouped up with also got banned. (also using Reshade, as we both disclosed to our group mates once it was brought up, and describing it's function)

And after a google search, I've discovered that Reshade has been a controversial topic in Player Unknown's Battle Grounds, Escape from Tarkov, Over Watch, etc.

So, until I get an official response, I will be uninstalling it until further clarification from some source within the game's development team.

Please talk this through, and consider making an announcement , as I'm certain many people other than myself are using this program, proven by the video below, which has in fact garnered considerable views and almost unanimous upvotes. (for the Isle at the time, that is)

Also, please don't ban me, for the love of god I just want to know if you'd classify this as cheating, I will cease immediately without hesitation

Also, I'm certain many others who have seen this video, or known about Reshade through other means, have or are using it currently, and an ANNOUNCEMENT is in order to prevent it, if it's decided to be bannable.

I'd like to receive an official response on this, please if any developer sees this, talk about it among yourselves, as it is a very important topic in my opinion moving forward, as I'm certain others also use reshade besides me. proven by this little known youtuber, the one I discovered reshade through and has several thousand views, and mostly positive responses.

the reason I installed it was due to how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gorgeous his game looks, after binge watching all of his videos I wanted My game to look as nice as this, I mean come on, isn't that just beautiful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-takOmxH7Q

Also, I hope that, if it is decided to be a bannable offense, I at the least brought it to the communities attention.

[COL PRIME TIME]

Don't crucify me pls. I want to see actual discussions, not the USUAL 3 word answers like "GIT GUD SCRUB"

[Chad Thundercock]

You could just up the gamma on your monitor and avoid all this

[Darth Absentis]

i feel it should be better stated what kind of mods are not tolerated and which are to be honest.
that being said, this kind of reshading mods is used by people to get an edge over other people during night time, so i sure see why it is forbidden in the end.

[COL PRIME TIME]

I honestly don't notice a difference when I turn up the gamma on my monitor, if anything it just gets harder to distinguish different shades as it rises.

Also, that's not why I got it, I wanted to have the same colors as him, it is beautiful lol, I'm pretty sure some people edit the files or some ♥♥♥♥ anyways for higher brightness or something, I saw a few people say that in group chats and forum posts.

[Chad Thundercock]

Originally posted by COL PRIME TIME:

I honestly don't notice a difference when I turn up the gamma on my monitor, if anything it just gets harder to distinguish different shades as it rises.

Well its not perfect then again developers really don't want people to do this but can't stop them until they add the old night back.

[Bob]

Back to the old night vision I say. Just up the view distance a fair bit. Keep dilo ahead however.

[Why Watt]

I used to run reshade for the same reasons as you; to make my game ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gorgeous. Now, I made my own preset, so it looked more intense, but also darker; low visibility came for me like, 2-3min before anyone not using reshade, so I actually disadvantaged myself compared to a normal player, for the sake of stunning visuals at a low performance cost.

But alas, I ended up uninstalling, because the devs brought up how they are going to have a better anti-cheat system put in place to deal with people using external programs to alter post-processing.

It frustrated me, because while this made sense to prohibit it in the OLD nights, because Reshade allowed you to bypass the 'total dark' meanwhile Gamma exploitation couldnt... but now we are in a situation where both can be exploits... but only one, the one that allows me to make my game suit my visual preferences, will be stopped.

I like the current nights; I LIKE not logging off when night falls and playing another game, or talking on discord, while I wait for daybreak. I enjoy exploration, seeing herds and packs and stuff, or just observing ♥♥♥♥ from the shadows, stalking as an ambush predator or weary prey item. I like seeing a landmark in the distance and going towards it.

OLD NIGHT SUCKED ASS.

I get all the Dilo players are so, so salty. But gamma exploiters really arent as bad as they were on Thenyaw way back before the 'dark nights' were a thing. Why? Because you dont even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ need gamma to see anymore. Everytime a Dilo is seen at night "OMG THE GAMMA EXPLOITERS" when they are bright colored and running around in an open field... I dont use ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Gamma and can see a Dilo at night but I bet it's gonna ♥♥♥♥♥ and moan I must be exploiting.

Atm there's like, 5min you really, really need NV on unaltered settings. OK? 5min-10min (depending on your monitor) of "Dilo's have an actual edge".

[COL PRIME TIME]

Isle V3 is just crazy compared to thenyaw, usually until midnight for those 20 minutes or so I NEVER need night vision outside of forests, if you in a relatively open area, such as twins, you can see very easily.

Thenyaw is just... crazy though. I used to play it exclusively, I guess I never noticed, but since going back to a thenyaw sever, it's night and day, you need night vision to see in the early morning even.

[Why Watt]

I don't play unofficial servers, so I wouldn't know Thenyaw's current state.

♥♥♥♥ that map, that laggy piece of trash where I get half the frames I do on V3, ♥♥♥♥ unending pine forests, ♥♥♥♥ the really ugly landmarks, ♥♥♥♥ a map where killing someone has them log on their alt account and be on your ass in 5min because it's so small they can cover the distance from wherever they logged so fast.

And if it's that dark compared to V3? Hell no, not touching it with a ten foot pole.

[Frost Spectre]

Just my opinion:
I as one individual haven't seen issue of game being too dark.
But I guess it could be a problem with eyes of some users.

[Unleashed]

It's straight up cheating cause it gives you better vision over other players.
If the graphics are too ugly for you, leave the game or play it single player.
As for for those who whines about night time being pitch dark, well, if you go in a forest at night, that's how it's going to look.

I find it unbelievable that we now have people complaining about a game for being too realistic (pitch dark nights in forests).

Realistic nights annoy you?
Go play BoB where everything is unrealistic (talking ambient graphics, not dinos of course)

I know I'm late here, but I added my 2 cents here after being runned after from 500 meters at night when I was quietly resting under a tree at night while rainning, so obviously still tons of cheaters who use it online.
And even if you say ''ItS oNlY tO gEt BeTtEr GrApHicS', well, even for that purpose, it gives you better vision in the morning & evenings.

So F anyone who uses it, and I hope y'all get ban from servers.

[Why Watt]

Originally posted by Unleashed:

It's straight up cheating cause it gives you better vision over other players.
If the graphics are too ugly for you, leave the game or play it single player.
As for for those who whines about night time being pitch dark, well, if you go in a forest at night, that's how it's going to look.

I find it unbelievable that we now have people complaining about a game for being too realistic (pitch dark nights in forests).

Realistic nights annoy you?
Go play BoB where everything is unrealistic (talking ambient graphics, not dinos of course)

I know I'm late here, but I added my 2 cents here after being runned after from 500 meters at night when I was quietly resting under a tree at night while rainning, so obviously still tons of cheaters who use it online.
And even if you say ''ItS oNlY tO gEt BeTtEr GrApHicS', well, even for that purpose, it gives you better vision in the morning & evenings.

So F anyone who uses it, and I hope y'all get ban from servers.

In a forest it is indeed dark but walk out into a field in the countryside and I can damn well tell you even on a cloudy night, you will see fine. And i'm not talking city with light polution out the ass. I live in rural Canada and so long as I get out of any woods or from the immediate shadow of any nearby relief, visibility is fine.

At one point in Progression on Region 2, they had very realistic night. You couldn't see ANYTHING in the shadow of a mountain and even with night vision or gamma, you could only see between gaps in the forest canopy which let some light filter through. If you hid in the shadow of a rock, nobody could see you, regardless of reshade or gamma abuse.

The position of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MOON affected visibility, if you want realistic night it ain't much better than that. Absolutely no visibility when it was raining in the dead of night either.

But no uh, even on current branch, it isn't reshade people use for finding people - it's ESP. Neither evrima nor legacy have any up to date anticheat that is matched to current ESP software, so you will inevitably run into people who can see you not just at night, but through terrain and from across the map.

Have fun on the deprecated branch tho. Hopefully in the future the devs will give enough of a ♥♥♥♥ to make evrima more protected from hackers.

Funnily enough BoB has the exact same issue ATM, ESP is very prominent in that game even on officials.

[ISI]

Originally posted by Why Watt:

Originally posted by Unleashed:

It's straight up cheating cause it gives you better vision over other players.
If the graphics are too ugly for you, leave the game or play it single player.
As for for those who whines about night time being pitch dark, well, if you go in a forest at night, that's how it's going to look.

I find it unbelievable that we now have people complaining about a game for being too realistic (pitch dark nights in forests).

Realistic nights annoy you?
Go play BoB where everything is unrealistic (talking ambient graphics, not dinos of course)

I know I'm late here, but I added my 2 cents here after being runned after from 500 meters at night when I was quietly resting under a tree at night while rainning, so obviously still tons of cheaters who use it online.
And even if you say ''ItS oNlY tO gEt BeTtEr GrApHicS', well, even for that purpose, it gives you better vision in the morning & evenings.

So F anyone who uses it, and I hope y'all get ban from servers.

In a forest it is indeed dark but walk out into a field in the countryside and I can damn well tell you even on a cloudy night, you will see fine. And i'm not talking city with light polution out the ass. I live in rural Canada and so long as I get out of any woods or from the immediate shadow of any nearby relief, visibility is fine.

At one point in Progression on Region 2, they had very realistic night. You couldn't see ANYTHING in the shadow of a mountain and even with night vision or gamma, you could only see between gaps in the forest canopy which let some light filter through. If you hid in the shadow of a rock, nobody could see you, regardless of reshade or gamma abuse.

The position of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MOON affected visibility, if you want realistic night it ain't much better than that. Absolutely no visibility when it was raining in the dead of night either.

But no uh, even on current branch, it isn't reshade people use for finding people - it's ESP. Neither evrima nor legacy have any up to date anticheat that is matched to current ESP software, so you will inevitably run into people who can see you not just at night, but through terrain and from across the map.

Have fun on the deprecated branch tho. Hopefully in the future the devs will give enough of a ♥♥♥♥ to make evrima more protected from hackers.

Funnily enough BoB has the exact same issue ATM, ESP is very prominent in that game even on officials.

old post for one

It is not like they create their own anti cheat software, there limited to what is available.
Now I do get the trashiness of cheating and how horrible of player they are, truly unable to play the game without a support handicap (<-< >->) but lets not act like the isle is anymore or less a waste land of cheaters than any other online multipler game.

and to be clear people still used gamma at the time of v2, so it clearly wasn't perfect. nightvision is really just a hard thing to do, correctly.

[Why Watt]

Originally posted by ISI:

Originally posted by Why Watt:

In a forest it is indeed dark but walk out into a field in the countryside and I can damn well tell you even on a cloudy night, you will see fine. And i'm not talking city with light polution out the ass. I live in rural Canada and so long as I get out of any woods or from the immediate shadow of any nearby relief, visibility is fine.

At one point in Progression on Region 2, they had very realistic night. You couldn't see ANYTHING in the shadow of a mountain and even with night vision or gamma, you could only see between gaps in the forest canopy which let some light filter through. If you hid in the shadow of a rock, nobody could see you, regardless of reshade or gamma abuse.

The position of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ MOON affected visibility, if you want realistic night it ain't much better than that. Absolutely no visibility when it was raining in the dead of night either.

But no uh, even on current branch, it isn't reshade people use for finding people - it's ESP. Neither evrima nor legacy have any up to date anticheat that is matched to current ESP software, so you will inevitably run into people who can see you not just at night, but through terrain and from across the map.

Have fun on the deprecated branch tho. Hopefully in the future the devs will give enough of a ♥♥♥♥ to make evrima more protected from hackers.

Funnily enough BoB has the exact same issue ATM, ESP is very prominent in that game even on officials.

old post for one

It is not like they create their own anti cheat software, there limited to what is available.
Now I do get the trashiness of cheating and how horrible of player they are, truly unable to play the game without a support handicap (<-< >->) but lets not act like the isle is anymore or less a waste land of cheaters than any other online multipler game.

and to be clear people still used gamma at the time of v2, so it clearly wasn't perfect. nightvision is really just a hard thing to do, correctly.

While the thread was necro'd by Unleashed they'd just made the post... before the live branch was abandoned by the devs and before the whole code leak incident, in all my time playing Officials (thousand + hours) I'd encountered less than five hacking incidents.

1, was in prog watching a speed hacking velo who made it to austro, then made it to utah... and was going so fast it went flying off a ledge and died and then I watched it come back to where me and my friends hung out as a velo again LOL.

2, was really early survival where I saw a fresh juvi giga (back before the skin system, only Giga, Para, Rex, Galli, Trike, Carno and Utah were playable at the time) that was running faster than Carnos and tried to fight them as I watched on my Para (it died horribly, came back while hacking again, still died to the carno pair again, was v amusing to watch)

3, a Rex near twins that was able to keep chasing my Carno all the way to sinkhole without ever stopping for a rest, clearly stamina hacking.

Fast forwards after the code dump, a naturally really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to happen, and hacking is not only abundant in legacy Isle, but it is EXTREMELY common in Evrima. Seeing adult Carnos running forever (talking running longer than fresh spawn Carnos so 10m of running bc they were so bad they couldn't catch baby Carnos) was really common, which is especially funny when playing alongside QA and stress testers and they go "yeah uh it aint supposed to be able to do that".

Now I will not compare Isle to BoB, BoB is far worse off in terms of how many hackers you are liable to run into there (shoutout to BoB mod team deciding to un-permaban hackers when titania dropped), ESP is just a thing you have to expect people to use there, speed hacks and AP hacks and stam hacks too, you can submit footage of it, hell you can ask admins / moderators already in the server to come watch a fight and they go "uhm sorry make a ticket" and proceed to do nothing.

Literally have been in cases where I was a Megalosaurus using Identify on a Saichania and it had 300%+ stamina (for reference no buff raises max stam % and a 5/3 endurance Sai will show as 100% just as a 0/3 endurance one will) and we had to pester him to do his job to ban the Sai that was actively hacking.

That was back when they somewhat did their job and would bait people's ESP out (as ESP can see people in admin camera, but if some dumbass on reflex turns towards the admin camera that they can ONLY SEE w/ ESP, then its easy to ban them)

Now BoB moderators arent allowed to ban people without having to go through a process on their end, after the fact. It's surreal.

Meanwhile in Path of Titans I've yet to see a single hacker or esper.

[ISI]

Originally posted by Why Watt:

Originally posted by ISI:

old post for one

It is not like they create their own anti cheat software, there limited to what is available.
Now I do get the trashiness of cheating and how horrible of player they are, truly unable to play the game without a support handicap (<-< >->) but lets not act like the isle is anymore or less a waste land of cheaters than any other online multipler game.

and to be clear people still used gamma at the time of v2, so it clearly wasn't perfect. nightvision is really just a hard thing to do, correctly.

While the thread was necro'd by Unleashed they'd just made the post... before the live branch was abandoned by the devs and before the whole code leak incident, in all my time playing Officials (thousand + hours) I'd encountered less than five hacking incidents.

1, was in prog watching a speed hacking velo who made it to austro, then made it to utah... and was going so fast it went flying off a ledge and died and then I watched it come back to where me and my friends hung out as a velo again LOL.

2, was really early survival where I saw a fresh juvi giga (back before the skin system, only Giga, Para, Rex, Galli, Trike, Carno and Utah were playable at the time) that was running faster than Carnos and tried to fight them as I watched on my Para (it died horribly, came back while hacking again, still died to the carno pair again, was v amusing to watch)

3, a Rex near twins that was able to keep chasing my Carno all the way to sinkhole without ever stopping for a rest, clearly stamina hacking.

Fast forwards after the code dump, a naturally really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ thing to happen, and hacking is not only abundant in legacy Isle, but it is EXTREMELY common in Evrima. Seeing adult Carnos running forever (talking running longer than fresh spawn Carnos so 10m of running bc they were so bad they couldn't catch baby Carnos) was really common, which is especially funny when playing alongside QA and stress testers and they go "yeah uh it aint supposed to be able to do that".

Now I will not compare Isle to BoB, BoB is far worse off in terms of how many hackers you are liable to run into there (shoutout to BoB mod team deciding to un-permaban hackers when titania dropped), ESP is just a thing you have to expect people to use there, speed hacks and AP hacks and stam hacks too, you can submit footage of it, hell you can ask admins / moderators already in the server to come watch a fight and they go "uhm sorry make a ticket" and proceed to do nothing.

Literally have been in cases where I was a Megalosaurus using Identify on a Saichania and it had 300%+ stamina (for reference no buff raises max stam % and a 5/3 endurance Sai will show as 100% just as a 0/3 endurance one will) and we had to pester him to do his job to ban the Sai that was actively hacking.

That was back when they somewhat did their job and would bait people's ESP out (as ESP can see people in admin camera, but if some dumbass on reflex turns towards the admin camera that they can ONLY SEE w/ ESP, then its easy to ban them)

Now BoB moderators arent allowed to ban people without having to go through a process on their end, after the fact. It's surreal.

Meanwhile in Path of Titans I've yet to see a single hacker or esper.

understandable. A stable report system would be nice

Though maybe it is just me, but I have yet to meet a hacker on the official servers. Ofcourse I know that they are there, but from my perspective, it looks like people over exaggerating.