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Giga vs Rex
Now I've already kinda posted this rant elsewhere but I need more ppl to see. The general outcome of a Rex vs Giga encounter is pretty realistic, and the devs should keep it how it is. I am saying this as someone who plays Giga more than any other dino. Tyrannosaurus Rex is supposed to have massive advantage over Giga if the two were to fight in real life. Is this not meant to be a realistic dino "game", even if it is just a videogame?

All this bickering about nerf rex, don't nerf rex, and who should come out the winner in a 1v1 between giga and rex is extremely stupid. Now I have just recently started playing this game after having it for idk 2 or 3 years don't remember... I can't argue on the game but I can argue on the reality of it, even though it's a videogame. Giga is not meant to beat Rex, not even in real life. The two dinos lived millions of years apart in their own eras, and would never come across each other. Giga is only an apex predator in the game because it was in its own timeline, but compared to Rex it would lose. Giga was built to perform hit and run tactics, and would often hunt in groups. Rex usually hunted solo, and could swallow prey whole, unlike Giga whose narrower jaw prevented that. Rex has a much greater bite force and jaw muscle mass, warranting the bone break ability. The point is the game is pretty realistic to real life, Rex overall is the real apex of the game, as it should be. It was named Tyrant King for a reason.

https://www.scienceabc.com/nature/animals/giganotosaurus-vs-t-rex-size-comparison-intelligence-body-structure.html
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Sable Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by General Eclectic:
Is this not meant to be a realistic dino "game", even if it is just a videogame?

No
General Eclectic Aug 16, 2019 @ 9:47am 
Well Im just saying ppl can fight for change as much as they want, but its how it should be in the case of Giga and Rex. I think alot of peop0le, as well as myself hate the idea that Rex is the best because its been seen as such for so long, and when Giganotosaurus was introduced into the American dino world, people were like finally something that could beat rex. But have fun with it guys... It is just a game as you said.
Gruffigummi Aug 16, 2019 @ 3:56pm 
I really dont think you can compare those dinosaus like this. They both had really different huntimg stategies. A giga would try to run past the rex and bite parts away from it while rex would try land a killing bite. Real life really has nothing to do with this game.
Holy Scrotum Aug 16, 2019 @ 4:20pm 
Separatist leaders hope to silence the senator from Naboo, who opposes the Military Creation Act. The bounty hunter Jango Fett is hired. He uses Zam Wesell in two attempts which failed. Zam is captured but Jango kills her to prevent the Jedi from questioning her....ohhh
FFS false thread
Bill_Clinton_Supreme (Banned) Aug 16, 2019 @ 4:24pm 
WTF is the point of this post?

Also there is zero evidence of any giganotosaurus hunting in packs, that's a paleomeme at best, and an awesomebro idea at worst.

Also the whole "theropod vs. theropod" debate is wrong
Iguanodon kills both t.rex and giga.
Gruffigummi Aug 16, 2019 @ 4:36pm 
In fact jabgo fett never existed. Thats just a stupid story made up by fools that where not able to read a book
General Eclectic Aug 16, 2019 @ 4:54pm 
Originally posted by Krona:
WTF is the point of this post?

Also there is zero evidence of any giganotosaurus hunting in packs, that's a paleomeme at best, and an awesomebro idea at worst.

Also the whole "theropod vs. theropod" debate is wrong
Iguanodon kills both t.rex and giga.

The point of this thread was to extinguish a stupid rivalry between rex and giga in the game. Giga and Rex are powerful in their own ways, but in a hypothetical 1v1 scenario Rex would most likely win.

Also, Giganotosaurus most likely did not hunt alone. It is a carcharodontosaurid, dinosaurs who generally have been dug up in groups. It's not a "paleomeme", it is an actual theory. I have worked with actual paleontologists like Sterling Nesbitt, who have said that they believe Giga was a pack hunter. I volunteer at Virginia Tech's paleo lab sometimes to learn more about these creatures. I am not saying I'm a dino expert, but I'm pretty sure Giga would have hunted in at least pairs.

https://www.livescience.com/24642-giganotosaurus.html

Idk if livescience is that accurate, but that's all I've found as hard proof for the theory so far.
General Eclectic Aug 16, 2019 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Gruffigummi:
I really dont think you can compare those dinosaus like this. They both had really different huntimg stategies. A giga would try to run past the rex and bite parts away from it while rex would try land a killing bite. Real life really has nothing to do with this game.

Yeah I know it's a videogame and not a paleontologist sponsored dinosaur sim, but their are still aspects of the game that are kinda close to reality. That's what realism is, getting close to reality. The game mimics the dinosaurs irl builds, sizes, and general biology but with some twists. I'd say that's pretty realistic. The devs may not have tried for a dinosaur simulator but they still based their dinosaurs off of the real things.
Bill_Clinton_Supreme (Banned) Aug 16, 2019 @ 5:35pm 
Originally posted by General Eclectic:
The point of this thread was to extinguish a stupid rivalry between rex and giga in the game. Giga and Rex are powerful in their own ways, but in a hypothetical 1v1 scenario Rex would most likely win.

Also, Giganotosaurus most likely did not hunt alone. It is a carcharodontosaurid, dinosaurs who generally have been dug up in groups. It's not a "paleomeme", it is an actual theory. I have worked with actual paleontologists like Sterling Nesbitt, who have said that they believe Giga was a pack hunter. I volunteer at Virginia Tech's paleo lab sometimes to learn more about these creatures. I am not saying I'm a dino expert, but I'm pretty sure Giga would have hunted in at least pairs.

https://www.livescience.com/24642-giganotosaurus.html

Idk if livescience is that accurate, but that's all I've found as hard proof for the theory so far.
This is the game that has mutant dinosaurs that break the laws of physics, utahraptors with intentionally inaccurate and broken wrists, cannibal human monster things, and your main concerns with accuracy is t.rex vs. giganotosaurus?

Giga did hunt alone, carnivores as a whole are quite seclusive and solitary, and preserving together =/= hunting together, it could've been a number of reasons such as mudslide, flood, or just convenience, as it could've just stacked on top of each other, this is why footprints and such can be very misleading in bonebeds.

Hunting together as a social group is an incredibly derived and rare tactic not seen in animals.

Plus there is no way any animal would ever dare to hunt a sauropod adult. Sauropods are literally the closest living animal to kaijus, a single kick from a argentinosaurus would kill any mapusaurus that went near it.
Just to clear any misconceptions, no, giganotosaurus never lived with argentinosaurus.
Unless mapusaurus was simply giganotosaurus roseae

The teeth at a titanosaur carcass can be easily explained as from a carcass.
Last edited by Bill_Clinton_Supreme; Aug 16, 2019 @ 5:39pm
General Eclectic Aug 16, 2019 @ 6:00pm 
Originally posted by Krona:
Originally posted by General Eclectic:
The point of this thread was to extinguish a stupid rivalry between rex and giga in the game. Giga and Rex are powerful in their own ways, but in a hypothetical 1v1 scenario Rex would most likely win.

Also, Giganotosaurus most likely did not hunt alone. It is a carcharodontosaurid, dinosaurs who generally have been dug up in groups. It's not a "paleomeme", it is an actual theory. I have worked with actual paleontologists like Sterling Nesbitt, who have said that they believe Giga was a pack hunter. I volunteer at Virginia Tech's paleo lab sometimes to learn more about these creatures. I am not saying I'm a dino expert, but I'm pretty sure Giga would have hunted in at least pairs.

https://www.livescience.com/24642-giganotosaurus.html

Idk if livescience is that accurate, but that's all I've found as hard proof for the theory so far.
This is the game that has mutant dinosaurs that break the laws of physics, utahraptors with intentionally inaccurate and broken wrists, cannibal human monster things, and your main concerns with accuracy is t.rex vs. giganotosaurus?

Giga did hunt alone, carnivores as a whole are quite seclusive and solitary, and preserving together =/= hunting together, it could've been a number of reasons such as mudslide, flood, or just convenience, as it could've just stacked on top of each other, this is why footprints and such can be very misleading in bonebeds.

Hunting together as a social group is an incredibly derived and rare tactic not seen in animals.

Plus there is no way any animal would ever dare to hunt a sauropod adult. Sauropods are literally the closest living animal to kaijus, a single kick from a argentinosaurus would kill any mapusaurus that went near it.
Just to clear any misconceptions, no, giganotosaurus never lived with argentinosaurus.
Unless mapusaurus was simply giganotosaurus roseae

The teeth at a titanosaur carcass can be easily explained as from a carcass.

You've gotta be trolling, like nothing you said, made any sense whatsoever.
SkBonez Aug 16, 2019 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by Krona:
Originally posted by General Eclectic:
The point of this thread was to extinguish a stupid rivalry between rex and giga in the game. Giga and Rex are powerful in their own ways, but in a hypothetical 1v1 scenario Rex would most likely win.

Also, Giganotosaurus most likely did not hunt alone. It is a carcharodontosaurid, dinosaurs who generally have been dug up in groups. It's not a "paleomeme", it is an actual theory. I have worked with actual paleontologists like Sterling Nesbitt, who have said that they believe Giga was a pack hunter. I volunteer at Virginia Tech's paleo lab sometimes to learn more about these creatures. I am not saying I'm a dino expert, but I'm pretty sure Giga would have hunted in at least pairs.

https://www.livescience.com/24642-giganotosaurus.html

Idk if livescience is that accurate, but that's all I've found as hard proof for the theory so far.
This is the game that has mutant dinosaurs that break the laws of physics, utahraptors with intentionally inaccurate and broken wrists, cannibal human monster things, and your main concerns with accuracy is t.rex vs. giganotosaurus?

Giga did hunt alone, carnivores as a whole are quite seclusive and solitary, and preserving together =/= hunting together, it could've been a number of reasons such as mudslide, flood, or just convenience, as it could've just stacked on top of each other, this is why footprints and such can be very misleading in bonebeds.

Hunting together as a social group is an incredibly derived and rare tactic not seen in animals.

Plus there is no way any animal would ever dare to hunt a sauropod adult. Sauropods are literally the closest living animal to kaijus, a single kick from a argentinosaurus would kill any mapusaurus that went near it.
Just to clear any misconceptions, no, giganotosaurus never lived with argentinosaurus.
Unless mapusaurus was simply giganotosaurus roseae

The teeth at a titanosaur carcass can be easily explained as from a carcass.

There is debate over whether or not to lump Mapusaurus with Giganotosaurus, currently undecided but still quite possible.
Yes, preserving together doesn’t mean hunting together, it can mean the other things you listed, but social behavior is still a possibility. Keep in mind social living doesn’t equal pack hunting, think like Nile crocodiles, social animals that still cannibalize each other and hunt individually, or it could be they pair off and raise their young to a certain age before splitting back up. There’s too many possibilities to say anything as an absolute.
But yeah, nothing is hunting an adult sauropod like Argentinosaurus, that’s just suicide.
Bill_Clinton_Supreme (Banned) Aug 16, 2019 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by General Eclectic:
Originally posted by Krona:
This is the game that has mutant dinosaurs that break the laws of physics, utahraptors with intentionally inaccurate and broken wrists, cannibal human monster things, and your main concerns with accuracy is t.rex vs. giganotosaurus?

Giga did hunt alone, carnivores as a whole are quite seclusive and solitary, and preserving together =/= hunting together, it could've been a number of reasons such as mudslide, flood, or just convenience, as it could've just stacked on top of each other, this is why footprints and such can be very misleading in bonebeds.

Hunting together as a social group is an incredibly derived and rare tactic not seen in animals.

Plus there is no way any animal would ever dare to hunt a sauropod adult. Sauropods are literally the closest living animal to kaijus, a single kick from a argentinosaurus would kill any mapusaurus that went near it.
Just to clear any misconceptions, no, giganotosaurus never lived with argentinosaurus.
Unless mapusaurus was simply giganotosaurus roseae

The teeth at a titanosaur carcass can be easily explained as from a carcass.

You've gotta be trolling, like nothing you said, made any sense whatsoever.
wtf how? Explain what was even confusing.
General Eclectic Aug 17, 2019 @ 3:10am 
Originally posted by Krona:
Originally posted by General Eclectic:

You've gotta be trolling, like nothing you said, made any sense whatsoever.
wtf how? Explain what was even confusing.

I don't know what you're implying about pack hunting, but to me it seems like you're saying its rarely seen in animals of the same genus or something. You are confusing me honestly. And yes my main concern is with Trex and Giga because those dinos are what ppl keep complaining about. I don't care about the cannibal monsters, or the hypos... All I'm saying is it makes sense that they are overpowered, because they were kinda op irl too. That's the point of an apex. The reason Rex even has a bone-break ability is because it probably could easily do so irl to almost anything smaller than itself. The reason Giga has the best bleed dmg is because that's how it would kill animals like Argentinosaurus, hunt it in a pack, do some damage to the thing here or there and wait it out. Giganotosaurus had some of the sharpest teeth seen in its time, massive bleeding from a wound would indeed occur. Argentino probably moved at no more than 10 miles per hour given the thing's probable metabolism, making its speed one of its only weaknesses. A predators job is exploit weaknesses. I don't picture the Argentinian region 100 mya decorated in Argentinosaur corpses, but I believe it is possible that they could be hunted.

I'm not saying Argentinosaurus was Giga's top prey choice, but if they were hungry enough, they would attempt to kill anything that moved, even each other. Titanosaurs, big as they are, were not invincible, size isn't everything, and how long would it take Argentino to turn to position itself to defend its sides from predators, which were probably its only weak points...
Lain Aug 17, 2019 @ 5:21am 
"The general outcome of a Rex vs Giga encounter is pretty realistic"

there isnt anything realistic about it? these two creatures would never have ever met each other
there is nothing to base the realism on other than the fossils of rex and the not even 1/4 complete skeleton of giga....
General Eclectic Aug 17, 2019 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Stairs:
"The general outcome of a Rex vs Giga encounter is pretty realistic"

there isnt anything realistic about it? these two creatures would never have ever met each other
there is nothing to base the realism on other than the fossils of rex and the not even 1/4 complete skeleton of giga....

I think you're missing the point as many have. I've even stated that the two are almost incomparable because they lived 10 million years apart, thus why Rex and Giga are apexes in their own arenas not sensibly both apexes in one arena.

And if these two ever did met each other, hypothetically, which occurs in the game... The Rex wins the face-mashing contest, as it should. That's all I'm saying.
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