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Fr3ddy 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 11:02
Grow as deinosuchus
So far i have only been eaten by other crocs and Raptors(and apparently a stego), whats the best way to grow as deinosuchus?
最後修改者:Fr3ddy; 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 11:07
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bigmoe808 2021 年 5 月 22 日 上午 11:23 
Technically, it's to bush camp. Find a secluded area to lay low for 5 hours. Don't move so often in the water, to avoid triggering water sense.

Honestly, though, just keep away from other crocs.
Royal Tar 2021 年 5 月 22 日 下午 11:23 
I mean it's literally common sense. Tired of these "how to grow" threads
Kraehe 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:39 
See this is an issue. Currently its utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to grow a deino. Yes, you can just bushcamp and afk grow like bigmoe suggested, but that is not only boring, its not the way it should be.

The real issue are the other crocs, since if you get seen, you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ no matter what (unless the bigger guy decided to not kill you). To fix this the smaller crocs should be faster on land with more stamina than bigger crocs so you actually have a chance to escape from them.
Then there is also the issue of what happens when you actually reach 100%. Because even then you´ll likely just die to other deinos. Either because they have a bigger group than you do, or because they land the first bite, since Deino on Deino combat is absolute facetank ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

But as it stands its just like bigmoe said, stay secluded and hidden. Hopefully though, this changes at some point.
bigmoe808 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:46 
引用自 Kraehe
See this is an issue. Currently its utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to grow a deino. Yes, you can just bushcamp and afk grow like bigmoe suggested, but that is not only boring, its not the way it should be.

The real issue are the other crocs, since if you get seen, you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ no matter what (unless the bigger guy decided to not kill you). To fix this the smaller crocs should be faster on land with more stamina than bigger crocs so you actually have a chance to escape from them.
Then there is also the issue of what happens when you actually reach 100%. Because even then you´ll likely just die to other deinos. Either because they have a bigger group than you do, or because they land the first bite, since Deino on Deino combat is absolute facetank ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

But as it stands its just like bigmoe said, stay secluded and hidden. Hopefully though, this changes at some point.
The actual end all be all fix would be to give environmental textures that favor juvies.

Example, there are logs at the bottom of rivers in certain patches...you can't hide in or use them as a barricade against other Deinos.

How about a tight canyon or cave in a rock face which only small animals could walk in and out of? No where to be seen that isn't an unintentional Map Error.

Hmm. How bout a Cliff side which narrow paths to traverse? Sure, a Ptera might poke you out, but, it's an option. Only in the concept for Pteras.
bigmoe808 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 2:55 
引用自 Kraehe
See this is an issue. Currently its utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ to grow a deino. Yes, you can just bushcamp and afk grow like bigmoe suggested, but that is not only boring, its not the way it should be.

The real issue are the other crocs, since if you get seen, you are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ no matter what (unless the bigger guy decided to not kill you). To fix this the smaller crocs should be faster on land with more stamina than bigger crocs so you actually have a chance to escape from them.
Then there is also the issue of what happens when you actually reach 100%. Because even then you´ll likely just die to other deinos. Either because they have a bigger group than you do, or because they land the first bite, since Deino on Deino combat is absolute facetank ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

But as it stands its just like bigmoe said, stay secluded and hidden. Hopefully though, this changes at some point.
To answer your question from that Topic which got taken down:

引用自 Kraehe
引用自 bigmoe808
The one thing Utah needs is a damn nerf to its bloated health.

How do they have bloated health though? I think even their health is at a good place, but please elaborate, I´m curious.
Ok. The way Evrima is supposed to work is that your weight is supposed to be pound for pound your Health Pool. This was a big break away from Legacy's Weight System which had weight act separately from health to affect how much dmg you dealt or took in combat. It's also touches on why Seamless Growth was going to be an improvement to Progression Style Growth because playables would be given more appropriate stats throughout their growth. To the point:

Deino is 8 tons-its health should be 8k.

Stego is 6 tons-its health should be 6k.

Utah is 500kg (last I heard)-its HP is more than 500. I think it was somewhere between 1k and 1.5k.

This is why we have Utahs surviving bites from the Croc.
Kraehe 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 3:43 
引用自 bigmoe808
Deino is 8 tons-its health should be 8k.

Stego is 6 tons-its health should be 6k.

Utah is 500kg (last I heard)-its HP is more than 500. I think it was somewhere between 1k and 1.5k.

This is why we have Utahs surviving bites from the Croc.

Last time I heard they seperated health and weight in evrima. The values were pretty close in legacy. But I could be wrong on this one. They definetly seperated damage from weight afaik. But since there is no clear 100% definition of health/damage/weight relation given by the devs I could be entirely wrong about all those things. Also, Utah 100% weight is 700kg and for that its health feels fine. Nerfing it further would make it too weak I think. You can already get 2 or 3 shot by carnos if they dont just land tailhits. And Deinos and Stegos mostly oneshot you.
So I don´t think Utahs health needs nerfing. At least with the current playable roster.
bigmoe808 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 4:17 
引用自 Kraehe
引用自 bigmoe808
Deino is 8 tons-its health should be 8k.

Stego is 6 tons-its health should be 6k.

Utah is 500kg (last I heard)-its HP is more than 500. I think it was somewhere between 1k and 1.5k.

This is why we have Utahs surviving bites from the Croc.

Last time I heard they seperated health and weight in evrima. The values were pretty close in legacy. But I could be wrong on this one. They definetly seperated damage from weight afaik. But since there is no clear 100% definition of health/damage/weight relation given by the devs I could be entirely wrong about all those things. Also, Utah 100% weight is 700kg and for that its health feels fine. Nerfing it further would make it too weak I think. You can already get 2 or 3 shot by carnos if they dont just land tailhits. And Deinos and Stegos mostly oneshot you.
So I don´t think Utahs health needs nerfing. At least with the current playable roster.
Last I heard, they're supposed to match.

As an animal playable which shouldn't be getting hit at all, it would be fine. The only thing that changes is that players get their just desserts for screwing around. Should be sneaking, pouncing, and grouping to take on larger animals. Hunting before pure Fighting.
MozarteanChaos 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 4:41 
引用自 doormat
I mean it's literally common sense. Tired of these "how to grow" threads
what's common sense to you isn't necessarily common sense to everyone; people need to learn this somehow since they're not going to automatically know how any video game works, and it's reasonable for them to ask more experienced players instead of trying to learn by trial and error.
Stundorn 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 9:02 
Cannibalism should debuff and only feed you below 20% like grazing.
If you kill (and not neccessarily eat) one of your species you should suffer a strong debuff. Maybe -30% for all Stats.

bigmoe808 2021 年 5 月 23 日 上午 10:51 
引用自 Stundorn
Cannibalism should debuff and only feed you below 20% like grazing.
If you kill (and not neccessarily eat) one of your species you should suffer a strong debuff. Maybe -30% for all Stats.
No. They shouldn't do any of that.
rustyOkin 2021 年 5 月 23 日 下午 1:05 
引用自 Stundorn
Cannibalism should debuff and only feed you below 20% like grazing.
If you kill (and not neccessarily eat) one of your species you should suffer a strong debuff. Maybe -30% for all Stats.
plz stop with that nonsense alrdy...
cannibalism is not only normal in this game but also necessary
EdvonSchleck 2021 年 5 月 24 日 上午 12:39 
Your best bet is to have a teammate and a bit of luck.

But really even if you make it to full adult your options don't really expand all that much. It's still highly competitive and dying to one of your own kind is still the most likely outcome. You're still confined to the same ol handful of water ways with the same one million other crocodiles. Worse yet you don't get to use what you gain as a full adult unless you stick to the same couple of hotspots. You don't like that what's left is throwing your weight at smaller crocs. GREAT.

While I enjoy the mechanics (not croc vs croc that ♥♥♥♥ sucks) and part of the map, most notably the swamps, the current oversaturation of crocs in those few very linear waterways + the lack of other (semi-)aquatics really dont do croc gameplay justice. Truly interesting spots for crocs were dead on arrival when nobody else goes there ever. Spiro plays out mind-bogglingly linear for terrestrials but its exponentially worse for Deinosuchus. I've played it twice and I'm not super keen on touching Deino again before diets and a map update.
KimberCustom11 2024 年 1 月 10 日 下午 8:49 
引用自 Royal Tar
I mean it's literally common sense. Tired of these "how to grow" threads
You managed to contribute nothing
Circenn 2024 年 1 月 10 日 下午 11:13 
引用自 KimberCustom11
引用自 Royal Tar
I mean it's literally common sense. Tired of these "how to grow" threads
You managed to contribute nothing

You comment on a post nearly 3 years old. Don't revive necro'd discussions just to say someone contributed nothing.
CrowdeR 2024 年 1 月 11 日 上午 2:25 
The lack of fish spawns in the current patch is causing Deinos to become carnivorous just to have food in their stomach's. Usually, you eat another Deino to get a perfect diet, but the lack of fish is forcing their hand.
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