Stegos

[Tanker_Brothers]

Well, what can I say, every Dinosaur ive ever seen fighting a (adult or even subadult) Stego died. Doesnt matther what size, how many are in the pack, the Stego just destroys everything. Ive seen so many stegos just guarding the south waterfalls and pond because they know that nothing can ever beat them. Its ridiculous, no dinosaur should be almost unkillable.

[Turbulence]

A good carno or a pack of careful Utahs can kill a stego. It's high risk but absolutely doable.

[Bracus]

Originally posted by Turbulence:

A good carno or a pack of careful Utahs can kill a stego. It's high risk but absolutely doable.

Yes, but a good carno can never kill a GOOD stego and a good utah pack can never kill a GOOD stego this is the problem. Stego(s) can lock down parts of the map currently. Their stats needs to be adjusted.

[Tanker_Brothers]

Exactly Bracus, also there are sometimes a pair or even 3 stegos... thats overkill for any Carnivore group. I hope we get some Apexes soon, or a nerf for stegos, because at the moment they are too powerfull

[Maunomanly]

this is the reason you shouldnt put the jurassic equivalent of a rhino in a roster full of small dinosaurs this early, same thing with deinosuchus

[Turbulence]

Originally posted by Bracus:

Originally posted by Turbulence:

A good carno or a pack of careful Utahs can kill a stego. It's high risk but absolutely doable.

Yes, but a good carno can never kill a GOOD stego and a good utah pack can never kill a GOOD stego this is the problem. Stego(s) can lock down parts of the map currently. Their stats needs to be adjusted.

It's a big map, you can always go somewhere else.

[Tanker_Brothers]

Yeah but is it intended that one or 2 players completely cut off a part of the map?

[Berserker]

Please, try to play 5 hrs painful growth time and slow moving stego. Carno is able to run away or croc is able to hide in water if they can't win. That is your problem and determination. How's about stego? Stego can not run away or hide in water. That's great balance. Don't cry!!!

[Kraehe]

I mean... I solod a stego, even made his buddy stego tailslap him. To be fair neither of them really knew what they were doing. I don´t think they even knew about bucking.

And yea its difficult. Though thats less because of the animal and more because the game ♥♥♥♥♥ you over with lags or desynch or hitboxes moving before animations.

A somewhat decent group of utahs should have no problem however, bleeding out a stego or, depending on groupsize, even multiple. Carnos on the other hand are absolutely not build to even fight bigger stuff like stegos so they should just steer clear of them.

That beeing said, an animal that takes 5 hours to grow should be able to hold its own against those that barely take 2.

[Pablo Croft]

A stego's attack: A single-direction tail attack that swings like a tree-trunk with spikes. A head attack, for some reason. Trampling small targets would have been more than fine, IMO.

1. Their tail attack forces them to hold their orientation and position while swinging their tail in a single direction. The stego also makes a noise when attacking. The duration of the noise made is equal to the time their tail is actually lethal?

2. The tail's recoil shouldn't be damaging players. During the recoil stage of the tail attack is when an attacker has the opportunity for a good, and safe hit. By the time that stego tries a follow up attack, it's way too late and you're already gone.

3. A stego's head attack can be done while moving. It's head is also is greatest weakness, isn't it? So, a stego isn't going to be leading with it's head very often, if never. How much damage does it do, exactly?

a) How many head attacks does it take for a full grown stego to kill a full grown utah?

b) A full grown carno?

c) A full grown deino?

d) A full grown ptera?

Drinking is safe for them, if a threat is land-based. A deino should be stego bane, if they surprise them and land a headshot. No need to drag them into the water.

In the future, it may be an easy task to detain and starve a stego if their diet is demanding. Long distance, or regular migration. Don't forget, it's a simple matter to grow a stego when no one's on the server. It's a cheif reason we saw so many apex in Legacy. Once AI can counter that, we'll see far less large dinosaurs.

[Tanker_Brothers]

I was a full grown deino and bit a stego 2 or 3 times in the head... he was running around like nothing happened and kept killing the baby crocs and gurading the bodies. The deino should easily kill them by biting its head when drinking, but thats not the case.

I played at night with the stego, its so ez to grow when nobody is there, a carnivore on the other hand has to play at peak times usually.

Also as far as i know the Stego kills almost every dino in 1 or 2 hits, so its more deadly than even a Deinosuchus.

[Bracus]

Originally posted by Turbulence:

Originally posted by Bracus:

Yes, but a good carno can never kill a GOOD stego and a good utah pack can never kill a GOOD stego this is the problem. Stego(s) can lock down parts of the map currently. Their stats needs to be adjusted.

It's a big map, you can always go somewhere else.

What an aswer... yes, or i shouldnt play the game or any game so i wont encounter this big balance difference this game. We could use some better solution ( an apex maybe if the stego stays this way ).
At the moment a full growth can go/chill anywere as food is plentyfull for herbies and no danger the player can encounter. Thats why stego players who bored come into the rivers to bully/ kill crocs.

[Turbulence]

Originally posted by Bracus:

Originally posted by Turbulence:

It's a big map, you can always go somewhere else.

What an aswer... yes, or i shouldnt play the game or any game so i wont encounter this big balance difference this game. We could use some better solution ( an apex maybe if the stego stays this way ).
At the moment a full growth can go/chill anywere as food is plentyfull for herbies and no danger the player can encounter. Thats why stego players who bored come into the rivers to bully/ kill crocs.

Stego is OP to the point of being boring to play, for sure. It's fun to go up against though, so as long as others play it I don't see a problem.

[Bracus]

Originally posted by Turbulence:

Originally posted by Bracus:

What an aswer... yes, or i shouldnt play the game or any game so i wont encounter this big balance difference this game. We could use some better solution ( an apex maybe if the stego stays this way ).
At the moment a full growth can go/chill anywere as food is plentyfull for herbies and no danger the player can encounter. Thats why stego players who bored come into the rivers to bully/ kill crocs.

Stego is OP to the point of being boring to play, for sure. It's fun to go up against though, so as long as others play it I don't see a problem.

Would be better if the stego had an enemy which is a real threat to him.
The developers clearly didnt had this in mind when they decided which animal will they implement in evrima.
Ptera - no ( other ) air creature
Deino - no other water creature
Stego - no other strong enough creature

They probably wanted to implement one type for each, so they can test it and can add more faster with smaller changes but about the same mechanics. Well i barely see creatures being added regulary so maybe im wrong.

[cianuro]

Stego is fine as it is, the problem is that they were wrong to put it in so early, since it is practically a herbi apex that must be able to defend against the carnis apex.

[snow-cheirus]

From my experience it only takes 2 deinos to hunt a stego, provided that the stego stays near the water and the crocs play the long game. A utah pack has a much easier time.