Evrima Difficulty

[RetailPale]

Evrima seems to be way harder than any phase that The Isle has been through so far. It being nearly impossible to find food, in combination with the "glitchy" fighting where it looks as if being smaller actually seems to be an advantage.

Not sure exactly what the game-plan is to survive yet and it kinda reminds me of the progression times of The Isle when everyone pretty much figured that the "Bush Simulator" was the way to a full or at least semi-enjoyable life.

I do enjoy Evrima right now however I'm finding it very difficult to get any game-play out of it, the combat in this game is so luck based it seems, mainly because it looks like the map is permanently having a solar eclipse and secondly because the fighting is so glitchy.

Any suggestions on how to currently survive ? Is afk still possible, or do I constantly have to be at my screen

[bigmoe808]

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

[Camper]

Evrima is quite difficult yes. If I may share my story: I was on 4th screen due to prior attacks with orange stomach and 40% stam.. spotted a small body floating mid swamp went for it.. got it so shore with all 3 bubles depleted. I fokin made it... dropped the body and it started glitching around and dissappeared.. Used the scent mechanic and could track the location where I last had it. But nothing to eat. Dead.... But yes.. bugs still need to be dealt with. Its just frustrating being punished when you made the finishline..

Anyway as a carnivore you want to scavange untill you are big enough to hunt.. Stay low and whenever you need to rest or stay in the proximity of a body try to wallow if possible. Don't trust anyone. In my experience people will attack you for no reason. Even if its the same species and there is plenty of food around. They just want to click that mousebutton. This even happened to me when I played stego.

As a herbi surviving is easy, stay away from the big center swamp and graze if your hunger bar is near empty. And wallow also applies here whenever you go for a drink.

[RetailPale]

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

Thats true but at least it wasnt this big and everyone kinda knew where to go. And why does stamina take so long to regen on evrima

[RetailPale]

Publicado originalmente por Camper:

Evrima is quite difficult yes. If I may share my story: I was on 4th screen due to prior attacks with orange stomach and 40% stam.. spotted a small body floating mid swamp went for it.. got it so shore with all 3 bubles depleted. I fokin made it... dropped the body and it started glitching around and dissappeared.. Used the scent mechanic and could track the location where I last had it. But nothing to eat. Dead.... But yes.. bugs still need to be dealt with. Its just frustrating being punished when you made the finishline..

Anyway as a carnivore you want to scavange untill you are big enough to hunt.. Stay low and whenever you need to rest or stay in the proximity of a body try to wallow if possible. Don't trust anyone. In my experience people will attack you for no reason. Even if its the same species and there is plenty of food around. They just want to click that mousebutton. This even happened to me when I played stego.

As a herbi surviving is easy, stay away from the big center swamp and graze if your hunger bar is near empty. And wallow also applies here whenever you go for a drink.

Had a full grown Utah last carnivore I've played on Evrima... got killed by my own team (Before groups were a thing)

[zuniger]

was way eaiser then legacy for me theres always food around. the map is way smaller i think which was needed because even with 150 ppl on a server you can starve without seeing or hearing a soul if you dont know where to go on legacy

[bigmoe808]

Publicado originalmente por ANDROID:

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

Thats true but at least it wasnt this big and everyone kinda knew where to go. And why does stamina take so long to regen on evrima

...Current Evrima is the size of Thenyaw. I pointed out V3 for a reason.

[RetailPale]

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Publicado originalmente por ANDROID:

Thats true but at least it wasnt this big and everyone kinda knew where to go. And why does stamina take so long to regen on evrima

...Current Evrima is the size of Thenyaw. I pointed out V3 for a reason.

Oh well currently maybe Idk last I played was when it first was released but I just tried playing now and it is extremely boring apparently the stam is glitched too so Im constantly laying down and I havent even seen one other player surprisingly Ive seen 3 dryo ai in one spot together in the woods before I seen a player lol

[Madkou]

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

With current Ai activity like it is, they may as well not be there at all, tbh lol. People are having trouble cuz there's to much foliage messing up too many hunts lol. That and the increased hunger. The increased hunger also makes scaving a lot harder. Not too many players are going to leave bodies behind with food being as scarce as it is now.

If they reduced hunger needs, it would help with the scaving I think. Overeating isn't a good thing lol. So, they'd end up leaving more bodies behind. But, even so, if their smart, they'll use bodies as bait. That becomes easier. :P Right now, it's hard to leave food bait unless you mass kill.

Additionally, dryo players are spotted and mistaken for AI Im sure lol. Actual sightings may not be accurate cuz of this? It was an error to make AI the same as playables...It's just too hard to tell how players feel about the amount of Ai present w/ the confusion lol.

If it's something NOT on the list of playables, you KNOW it's an AI lol. Adjusting a dinos looks in the character creation for dryos wouldnt work neither. Ppl would still be masquerading as them. There's no good reason for this lol.

One solution might be to make it so players could play dryo, but there's no way to come close to the look of ai. A special pattern or something even? They gotta be smarter about this lol.

[rustyOkin]

V3 legacy was like 10 times harder, no idea what you are talking about
Not to mention the game SHOULD be hard if you ask me

Seems like some players have become a little bit "soft" after the long legacy AI spoon-feeding
That or they've never experienced TI in the old V3 days

[velocitation]

Publicado originalmente por Madkou:

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

With current Ai activity like it is, they may as well not be there at all, tbh lol. People are having trouble cuz there's to much foliage messing up too many hunts lol. That and the increased hunger. The increased hunger also makes scaving a lot harder. Not too many players are going to leave bodies behind with food being as scarce as it is now.

If they reduced hunger needs, it would help with the scaving I think. Overeating isn't a good thing lol. So, they'd end up leaving more bodies behind. But, even so, if their smart, they'll use bodies as bait. That becomes easier. :P Right now, it's hard to leave food bait unless you mass kill.

Additionally, dryo players are spotted and mistaken for AI Im sure lol. Actual sightings may not be accurate cuz of this? It was an error to make AI the same as playables...It's just too hard to tell how players feel about the amount of Ai present w/ the confusion lol.

If it's something NOT on the list of playables, you KNOW it's an AI lol. Adjusting a dinos looks in the character creation for dryos wouldnt work neither. Ppl would still be masquerading as them. There's no good reason for this lol.

One solution might be to make it so players could play dryo, but there's no way to come close to the look of ai. A special pattern or something even? They gotta be smarter about this lol.

No need to make AI different from players since it generally isn't meant to be different than players, just another thing you may be able to hunt if you can find it, also you can see if its AI if its head is stuck to the left and also by the movement patterns.

[velocitation]

Publicado originalmente por ANDROID:

Publicado originalmente por bigmoe808:

Hardest? V3 on Legacy used to not spawn AI at all.

Thats true but at least it wasnt this big and everyone kinda knew where to go. And why does stamina take so long to regen on evrima

Did you know that the current evrima map is the size of thenyaw, or in other words way smaller than V3, also stamina nerf was not intentional and will be reverted in an upcoming hotfix and once you get to know the map everything becomes easier.

Also general survival tips are to frequently sniff in search of food and footprints, approach corpses carefully as danger may lay near, use sounds in order to identify the locations of other players and to chase them in the forest if you lost sight of them, stick to the shrubbery as a juvie, as a juvie hunt what you can and don't what you cant and learn the map, and no I don't mean have the map open on another tab all the time I mean have a mental map in your head, once you learn the map your life will get much easier.

[Madkou]

Publicado originalmente por velocitation:

Publicado originalmente por Madkou:

With current Ai activity like it is, they may as well not be there at all, tbh lol. People are having trouble cuz there's to much foliage messing up too many hunts lol. That and the increased hunger. The increased hunger also makes scaving a lot harder. Not too many players are going to leave bodies behind with food being as scarce as it is now.

If they reduced hunger needs, it would help with the scaving I think. Overeating isn't a good thing lol. So, they'd end up leaving more bodies behind. But, even so, if their smart, they'll use bodies as bait. That becomes easier. :P Right now, it's hard to leave food bait unless you mass kill.

Additionally, dryo players are spotted and mistaken for AI Im sure lol. Actual sightings may not be accurate cuz of this? It was an error to make AI the same as playables...It's just too hard to tell how players feel about the amount of Ai present w/ the confusion lol.

If it's something NOT on the list of playables, you KNOW it's an AI lol. Adjusting a dinos looks in the character creation for dryos wouldnt work neither. Ppl would still be masquerading as them. There's no good reason for this lol.

One solution might be to make it so players could play dryo, but there's no way to come close to the look of ai. A special pattern or something even? They gotta be smarter about this lol.

No need to make AI different from players since it generally isn't meant to be different than players, just another thing you may be able to hunt if you can find it, also you can see if its AI if its head is stuck to the left and also by the movement patterns.

1 chief reason to keep AI unique, or unique looking at least? Is the fact that players can't tell them apart, and trying to figure out if AI work for players or not is confusing cuz of this lol. I think they need to rethink that. Sightings aren't even dependable information right now. You don't think players will get kicks from acting like AI? xD

[velocitation]

Publicado originalmente por Madkou:

Publicado originalmente por velocitation:

No need to make AI different from players since it generally isn't meant to be different than players, just another thing you may be able to hunt if you can find it, also you can see if its AI if its head is stuck to the left and also by the movement patterns.

1 chief reason to keep AI unique, or unique looking at least? Is the fact that players can't tell them apart, and trying to figure out if AI work for players or not is confusing cuz of this lol. I think they need to rethink that. Sightings aren't even dependable information right now. You don't think players will get kicks from acting like AI? xD

But why would you want to or should be able to tell them apart, I mean food is food right ?
I mean I get your point of being able to verify whether AI is like spawning and working and stuff but servers admins along with QA and devs have tools which let them know how many AI are active at each point on the server and for all we know AI is there from admins/QA and players alike there is verification of that, I've seen and ate plenty of them too and you are able to verify that its AI just by observing its behavior which I know you said players can act like AI but the thing is that AI can move in ways players cant along with not bleeding and that's all the verification I need.

[Nearchus]

They made the hardcore survival game hard? How dare they!
As long as the difficulty isn't the product of bugs or impossibly hard, I'm fine with it.

[zuniger]

Publicado originalmente por GekkoGamer:

They made the hardcore survival game hard? How dare they!
As long as the difficulty isn't the product of bugs or impossibly hard, I'm fine with it.

normally it is with this game lmao