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It also does not make it any better to find out that Evrima's release was honestly not good. Then, they turn around and find that one of the team member's are allegedly accused of pedophilia.
They go on the forums because they feel like it is the best way to fuel their emotions, and to be honest, it is kind of a good place to explain how bad the game is. I would normally say that they could always make a review, but the reviews are flooded with statements say "me like dino."
I also heard the the discord of the Isle cannot take constructive criticism or else they get banned. However, I do not use discord, so I cannot say for certain if that is true or not.
When there are 2 places eliminated for people to spout their rage, they figure that the forums are the best places to do it. That is why there are so many threads mentioning the following "grr the isle scam, i hate devs, and etc."
The thing is though, each time someone follows the advice to leave the game and come back for more progress, it seems that they watch the development not improving. I guess that infuriates people. Disappointment turns into sadness. Sadness causes anger. And anger causes rage. This leads to customers making negative comments as well as criticizing anyone who enjoys the game because they think their experience invalidates that due to all they have been through, which is reasonable in a way if you think about it.
Even people who supported the game are switching sides. This also makes them feel they are right in a way.
These are good points and well articulated, I have a few rebuttals.
1. From a basic psychological deduction, I would venture to guess that the vast majority of the people who are angry have sunk hundreds of hours into this game. I have met very few people who have played this game less than I have. And I have trouble believing that someone has never enjoyed the game at all if they have played it that much, and also that someone could be that upset if that had not dedicated any significant amount of time to the game.
2. Steam has a pretty ironclad policy on returns. If you play The Isle for less than a couple hours and think it's trash, you can get a refund. Now I know, it's pretty much impossible to get a feel for The Isle after only a couple of hours, and that's probably one of the best arguments for it being a scam. But I'm sure that we don't hear from anyone who requested a refund here, because they are the people who lost interest and moved on to other games.
3. It's still an Early Access game, and it comes with this disclaimer: "This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development."
So back to my original point, making suggestions is fine, although imo, a waste of time, as I don't think the Devs actually listen (I could be wrong). But what is happening here isn't "venting" imo. I don't think these people feel any better after they make a post knocking the Devs. I was just saying I think they would feel better if they accepted the inherent risk with buying an early access game and just sat back and hoped for the best, and find peace with the idea that their dream of the perfect dino survival game might not be realized with The Isle. I have no doubt that at some point, given the interest in the genre, someone will do it.
This actually seems like an accurate assessment.
It's not like this game was cashgrab competitive shooter #2390143548, which people could easily drop for greener pastures. Why? Because there are very, very few games out there that actually allow you to play as a dinosaur, and that was remained to be the case for a very long time.
Seriously, can you name any other dinosaur sim that appeared on Steam before... I don't know, say, 2016-2017? Saurian, which went through even more development hell than The Isle? Primal Carnage and Dino D Day? - though those aren't exactly sims, but they still allowed people to play as dinosaurs, nonetheless... but other than that, there wasn't anything else.
So people were forced to put their hopes into this tripe early access scam for some time - years really, and with all the time that's passed, it's only reasonable that people would grow resentful after all of the development ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and broken, empty promises.
Any long-time people like myself are probably just here to watch it all burn to the ground for karma. You might call it "petty" with your little college psyche degree but guess what? The dino game genre has been plagued with nothing but incomplete, ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ early access titles and literal scams throughout the last decade.
Primal Carnage? Franchise potential completely ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ruined by ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Dondi, as stated in SidAlpha's video.
The Stomping Lands? Kickstarter scam.
Ark: Survival Evolved? Buggy, unoptimized, grindy cashgrab garbage with a toxic community that doesn't even allow you to play as a dinosaur unless if you install a mod.
The Hunter: Primal? Canned; was probably a scam as well. Didn't allow you to play as a dinosaur either.
Saurian? Stuck in development limbo, once again thanks to Dondi poaching several of its key developers for his own little early access scam.
Mesozoica? Another early access scam.
Jurassic World Evolution? Park sim, not a dino sim. Laughable lack of content and customization compared to most other park & zoo sims out there, and all of the DLC cashgrabbing will leave a sour taste in your mouth as well. Doesn't help that the devs abandond this one too, for their Planet Zoo game.
Beasts of Bermuda? Most 'complete' dino sim right now in terms of actual gameplay and mechanics, but its AWFUL graphics, bugs, optimization and FPS issues make it borderline unplayable most of the time.
Path of Titans? Not even available for purchase on Steam, you have to use the dev's specific game launcher or some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like that. Shows a lot of promise, but at the end of the day it's still an early access tech demo for now. For all we know, they could end up being scammers as well.
So do you see where I'm going with this now?
Eventually, when you've come across so many scammers, cashgrabbers and incompetent game devs through such a promising game genre throughout the years, eventually you reach a point where want to see karma bite these ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the ass, and watch their world burn as they finally get exposed.
The dino game genre is being held back by these sleazebags, and this will continue the being case until enough consumers become aggressively wary of their practices, which in turn, could pave the way for a competent and dignified dev studio to step up and set new quality standards for the genre.
What do people like when they play The Isle?
-Hunting
-Being hunted
-Making herds/packs
-Starting families/nests
-Fights
All of these interactions are probably the only things people like about this game, no one ever says that finding bushes to eat is fun.
Like, if I was living on an arctic research base, then yeah this game would probably entertain me, but that's probably because anything could at that point.
The game is inexcusably bad, its been 5 years and its still incredibly rudimentary, you can only walk, bite, run, eat, drink, smell occasionally. This is undeniable and these reactions to it are just as valid as if someone got pissed at how No Man's Sky was such a piss poor game on launch.
The price tag doesn't change the fact that, at the end of the day, the consumer of the product is incredibly disappointed. At least No Man's Sky is good now.
There's no "patching" Human Nature.
I honestly can't tell if this is meant to be ironic.
Are you giving me a window into the mind of someone with a crippling addiction to dinosaur games? It's kind of shocking how you've not only apparently bought and played almost all them enough to be able to give a thorough critique, but have also kept up on all the dino game community gossip. Do you have dreams about dinosaur games by chance?
If you want my opinion with my pathetic little psych degree, I'd say based on all available evidence, you very well might be a dinosaur trapped in a human body.
I guarantee you that most, if not all the people that are upset or have problems with the current state of the game and development were people that were excited with this or had good memories with it.
Wanna know why people had spammed and talked non stop about how the Recode is such a cold jar of piss poured onto your pants? Because the update never met any expectations of anyone at all and under-delivered HARD. Which is a shame since I bet you that huge chunk of players that bought the game were excited for this hype train with all these promised new features.
This is amazing, gonna save and quote this. I agree 100%