Allosaurus guide? (or potential buff?)

[Mr.Scar]

Hello everyone,

As the topic states. I would like to ask if there is any up to date guide for the Allo. I have tried searching for it and found some older ones but i wonder if anyone can share some experience and how to play it. Sorry also in advance for the spelling, since im writing from my mobile.

Reason why I am asking is because i do not see many allos around on the server (mostly raptors/dilo, giga and carno, sometimes hebrivores) and its hard to get some info while playing as an allo. Also i think he requires a little buff but i will get to that.

From my experience so far:

1. Allo has hard time solo so i presume having a pack would be reasonable. I tried it once with 2 other friends but we got wasted pretty quickly by a single adult giga. We were all max grown adults. I died after one bite while being full healthy?
2. Carnos, raptors, gigas are common sight in packs. And are really hard to take down even when in a pack of 3 allos. They simply have the numbers.
3. This way i stay away from other players and even in a pack we mostly hunt npc dinos.
4. tried playing as an stealth ambusher but with little effect.

Conclusion:

I think the allo requires a buff, or i simply play it the wrong way. Why buff and which ones?

1. Health - getting him from 2800 to 3800 as an adult would be reasonable i think. He is not that small after all.
2. Slightly better damage? I think if he would get a hp boost the dmg would increase too if i read the dmg calculation forumula properly.
3. Minor speed increase, 2-3km/h add to the current speed - i think he should be a little faster but not as fast as carno or raptor of course.

In the end my conclusion might be wrong, because of the type of dinos are mostly played by others. If this is the case, and the allo is perfectly in place with curret stats, it seems i play it the wrong way. That is why guidelines would be very helpful.

I also should mention i am playing on dev branch.

Thank you in advance for the help.

[Souretsu]

I've been playing Allo on Dev 4 for about a week or so now. Personally I have had a much more pleasant experience with Allo on the V3 map than I have with Giga, which I played before this.

Allo is a lot easier to feed and travels easier. Playing in a pair or group helps but it comes down to knowing what not to mess with (Rex, Giga, Diablo, and Para if alone) and knowing where to look for food.

[Nitramage]

Allosaurus is actually in a pretty good place right now.

Its the perfect all rounder and mid tier. It got decent health, regen, resistance, speed and damage. It's fast enough to get away from Giganotosaurus (however giga can catch it if it gets enough of a headstart with its ambush) The only thing that hinders it is the fact that Para can easily run it down.

-Carnos are generally weaker than allos but are easier to grow, their speed makes them a huge threat however their turn is really bad so 3 Allos should be more than enough to fend them off.

-Utahraptors shouldn even be a threat when you're in a pack. They are annoying but they can easily be dealt with even when alone.

-Giganotosaurus is a BIG nono. Just don't bother messing with them. They are not on your prey list.

It essentially boils down to skill. Here it sounds like you're struggling with situations that can be handled easily with enough skill. Utahs arent a threat when you know what you're doing remember to use alt turn! Allos should have no problem with stealth play either and has great ambush potential.

[JIRACHI]

A huge "hell no" to Allo buff.

He is the most popular mid tier carni choice and one of the most picked dinosaurs overall. Thats because he's got a good bit of everything - speed, bleed, damage, health. Everything more than that (like previously bone break) would make him OP.

In 1v1 I'd only stay away from apexes and ceratos.
Paras can be solo'ed because their attacks are slow and their bleed resistance is horrible, but keep in mind that their "special" attack can 2 shot you.
Carnos are generally weaker but pretty fast, so you need to be careful when fighting them. Best thing you can do is stand still and wait until it attacks so you can bite him. You can't outrun them so don't even try, if you've been bitten you'll only do them a favor by increasing the bleed damage you take.

In packs, allos can kill anything. But when going for apexes - the more people you are the better.

[Mr.Scar]

Thank you for the replies. I have the answers i needed. Seems that i had simply bad luck, and need to hone my skills.

I love the Allosaurus looks, and what brought my to play him is the "all-rounder" definition. And usually i do play such "classes" that are a jack-of-all trades types, which work for me perfectly. I simply like the idea of being able to adapt to most situations.


I will give him another shot after work.

See you on The Isle.

[Sabre]

I am just gonna put my 2 cents out there. I love the allo, in fact it's my favorite dinosaur ever! That being said, it is a ******* meme in the isle. I haven't played it ever since the ceratosaurus came in. The ceratosaurus who was smaller than the allo and bullied by the allo walks around killing allos with 5 bites now.... while at the allo takes roughly 13 bites to kill a cerato. (Bleed not included) I can't stomach the under whelping spot the allo is in. This isn't exactly a guide to playing it. Just advice to not play it. In it's current state it is a free meal for every carnivore but carno, dilo and Utah. And if any of those dinos is in a pack the allo is screwed. It can't kill almost any herbs for lack of speed to catch them or lack of power to kill the ones he can. Every time I play I go giga now and I easily wreck 4 packs of allos. And the giga is hardly worth calling an apex itself. Just... just don't. The time spent to grow and still be bottom of food chain as adult is sad. :( Unless hunting babies suits you

[Nitramage]

Originally posted by SabreGale:

I am just gonna put my 2 cents out there. I love the allo, in fact it's my favorite dinosaur ever! That being said, it is a ******* meme in the isle. I haven't played it ever since the ceratosaurus came in. The ceratosaurus who was smaller than the allo and bullied by the allo walks around killing allos with 5 bites now.... while at the allo takes roughly 13 bites to kill a cerato. (Bleed not included) I can't stomach the under whelping spot the allo is in. This isn't exactly a guide to playing it. Just advice to not play it. In it's current state it is a free meal for every carnivore but carno, dilo and Utah. And if any of those dinos is in a pack the allo is screwed. It can't kill almost any herbs for lack of speed to catch them or lack of power to kill the ones he can. Every time I play I go giga now and I easily wreck 4 packs of allos. And the giga is hardly worth calling an apex itself. Just... just don't. The time spent to grow and still be bottom of food chain as adult is sad. :( Unless hunting babies suits you

Allo can easily wreck packs of dilos/utahs if you know what you are doing. Allo also has really good stamina compared to most dinosaurs. Cerato is by far one of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ dinosaurs to play as. Your hunger lasts 45 mins max, you're slow, free meal for gigas because it cant run away and doesnt even have any mobility either. Allo has decent heal and resistance and can survive dilo attacks. Allo is a free meal for Trex and giga? hell no rex is slow as a brick and you can easily outrun giga if you spot it. Allo can also hunt most herbis: Diablo, maia, sub trike, Galli, Dryo and even Paras in packs. Allo is top tier and you're not using it right.

[Nitramage]

Originally posted by SabreGale:

I am just gonna put my 2 cents out there. I love the allo, in fact it's my favorite dinosaur ever! That being said, it is a ******* meme in the isle. I haven't played it ever since the ceratosaurus came in. The ceratosaurus who was smaller than the allo and bullied by the allo walks around killing allos with 5 bites now.... while at the allo takes roughly 13 bites to kill a cerato. (Bleed not included) I can't stomach the under whelping spot the allo is in. This isn't exactly a guide to playing it. Just advice to not play it. In it's current state it is a free meal for every carnivore but carno, dilo and Utah. And if any of those dinos is in a pack the allo is screwed. It can't kill almost any herbs for lack of speed to catch them or lack of power to kill the ones he can. Every time I play I go giga now and I easily wreck 4 packs of allos. And the giga is hardly worth calling an apex itself. Just... just don't. The time spent to grow and still be bottom of food chain as adult is sad. :( Unless hunting babies suits you

Forgot to mention that Cerato is also getting a rework. It will get reduced in size and stats but will be very resilient.

[Sabre]

I just don't think it is viable as it used to be. Also I am praying that update for cerato takes place. Only then will I touch it again. Yes you can wreck Utah's at day time, but if your bleeding stacks you can be taken out. I think its main problem is that cerato took its place as a mid tier carnivore. I look at it now as a low tier carnivore. Utah's and dilos are your prey. If they don't see you. Maia and down is your prey if they don't see you. You really have to be stealthy as hell and hope nothing big sees you. As an allo lover I refuse to play an abomination that is dwarfed by its historical soccer ball the cerato. Plus I call bull on the giga not being fast enough. Every allo I kill sees me. I caught them all in the long distance run. Best hope as an allo is run as far as possible and change directions whilst in cover to get giga to lose you.

[JIRACHI]

I agree with @Carnage. As much as I hate to admit it, Cerato is just usless right now. He is unable to catch almost anything, and yet his hunger time is just ridiculous. He is absolutely hopeless against any apex - can't fight back nor escape. It's true that his bleed resistance is amazing but that doesn't really help with anything, those who can't fight him can run away and those who can deal high enough damage without bleed. Generally speaking, 2 allos are enough to kill a cera but of course it all depends on skill - the opposite could be true as well.

[Sabre]

My idea is not that the allo get buffed(except for size so I don't look dumb). I think a speed boost to the cerato with a slower food drain and a slight decrease in size and bite damage would fix the allo as a second rate carnivore but also leave the cerato in a better spot to outrun apexs whilst being a smaller less rewarding meal for them. It would allow cerato to catch prey better than allo leaving allo the historical bully back in its proper place. The cerato would hunt Utah's and carnes better but would be forced to leave food if something bigger came it's way. And would be a hunter.

[Souretsu]

Cerato currently is quite strong but only against things smaller than itself. It instantly loses to Rex, Giga, Trike and Diablo but beats pretty much everything else 1v1.

It is getting a rework soon though.

[The Devil]

lmao balance between the monsters who can 1 hit you is atrocious, slow the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ giga down it out turns an allo

[fkr]

Guys try to play as cerato in a server where alt turn is disabled, giga is a free meal trust me.

[rustyOkin]

what the hell am I reading?
Cerato clearly didn't take the Allo's place! Allo is the best dino overall atm, if you get caught by an Apex or a Cerato it's your own fault
Not to mention that Cerato is a free meal for an adult Giga - not viable at all

[Souretsu]

Originally posted by Saltysfied®:

Guys try to play as cerato in a server where alt turn is disabled, giga is a free meal trust me.

Ignoring that we're talking about a server that has disabled a basic game function, the Giga can just run away. If it tags Cerato once, that's also going to be like 80+ bleed plus over 700 damage. If it even thought about chasing the Cerato would bleed out.

Originally posted by Soul King:

lmao balance between the monsters who can 1 hit you is atrocious, slow the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ giga down it out turns an allo

Allo and Giga have the same turn rate.