Dinosaur may walk backwards

[Zentaki]

As any one could imaging any thing that moves by 2 or 4 feet may walk backwards.

Why developer in general make dinosaur not able to walk backward?
even if there are specialist who may claim T-Rex would not be able to walk backwards i disagree completely, it just not make sense at all no matter the argument(if there is possibly a good one for that).

So it would be a really good thing for this game to make movements more natural.
There is no good enough excuse for not doing so.

The function Alt + directions , is a place holder right?

It is ok, solve some problem about movement.
But it would be best if this movement was part of the mouse look.
So as you look around with the mouse the dinosaur would move accordingly plus with the movement do walk backward.

Each dinosaur would move differently off course. Potentially the bipeds would have the best turning in the game. More agile they must be.
It must be noticeable the differences from each type and less so between its own types.

Hope the game and myself lives to see the day of this in game.

[QuiteSilver]

A new alt turn system in the recode "coming soon" will give an almost instant alt turn for all dinos i'm pretty sure. There will be no walking backwards but instead a better version of alt turn.

[Onyxsoul]

cool point. write it into the Isle Discord Suggestions ?

[Zentaki]

backward is a must.....it feels too weird not been able to walk backward
Turning should be done in a way to feel more freedom when moving, not relying in a button press....it will suck no matter what because of that.

The tip is to make about mouth, whatever calculations is done to position the dinosaur it is about the head or mouth....Especially for carnivores.

Anyway the focus must be at the positioning of the head and not the feet. This way players will have more and better control of the dino. So the body should just do whatever it must to fallow the head. If it need to walk 1 step it will do so, if it needs to turn step it will do so, no matter where the head goes the body and feet will act accordingly.

That is the best way to approach this. So in a nutshell make the mouse analogically paired with the head and the body/feet with reflect its action as needed. This way you will be able to get your dinosaur's mouth where you need to. To any height up above head or to the foot as side ways will have a much more smooth and natural movements.

[Zentaki]

also it will be a base line for first person perspective!! (leave always option for both perspectives, first person/ third person)

[Late Game Wonder]

look at the birds and tell me how many of them you seem capable of walking backwards.
Specially Ostritches and the closely related ones.
add to that their build and come back with your "Not agreeing with experts"

[Raina]

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

look at the birds and tell me how many of them you seem capable of walking backwards.
Specially Ostritches and the closely related ones.
add to that their build and come back with your "Not agreeing with experts"

Most birds can walk backwards but simply prefer not to. You may be thinking of emus spesifically. But ostriches (your named example) can walk backwards. There are technically even videos of emu doing it so it seems to just be a strong aversion to the action. Not an inability.

So..... Maybe try Google next time?

[superspacemonkey]

lol ark player for sure

[QuiteSilver]

Originally posted by superspacemonkey:

lol ark player for sure

LMAO how does that make them an ark player because they want dinosaurs to walk backwards? There are a lot of games that allows dinos to walk backwards

[Cocoa-Jin]

I’m open to the idea of them walking backwards. As of now, I think it should only be at the slowest walk speed.

[KlarVyvern]

The "birds can't walk backwards" meme needs to die.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65-XthWr9kY

[Late Game Wonder]

Originally posted by Raina:

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

look at the birds and tell me how many of them you seem capable of walking backwards.
Specially Ostritches and the closely related ones.
add to that their build and come back with your "Not agreeing with experts"

Most birds can walk backwards but simply prefer not to. You may be thinking of emus spesifically. But ostriches (your named example) can walk backwards. There are technically even videos of emu doing it so it seems to just be a strong aversion to the action. Not an inability.

So..... Maybe try Google next time?

No I was thinking of Cassowaries, the capable might be the wrong word but it is the best word to use, they are anatomically capable sure, but the cases of you seeing birds walking backwards almost always upon inspection comes down to head injury or disrupted functionality, like the video above where the visual reception is interrupted.
There is a phenomenon in chickens and roosts for example that upon brain injury they would walk back wards.
The clear sign is their brain does not like to give that command, even we are not comfortable with walking backwards (except that woman that walked backwards for H1n1 vaccine hoax, she clearly liked it lol) and we have a body that is pretty well made for walking backwards.

[Zentaki]

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

look at the birds and tell me how many of them you seem capable of walking backwards.
Specially Ostritches and the closely related ones.
add to that their build and come back with your "Not agreeing with experts"

dinosaur are not birds, poor comparison.
The idea that dinosaur does not walk backwards is absurd. Maybe one or other can't do that...but who knows..
and the point is that this is a game so some rules could be broken to add more to the game.

Don't try to explain something complex with just one comparison thinking it will answer every aspect of what is in question, especially if you are just propagating what others think without thinking for your self or giving more consideration for something new that might hurt your ego!

Originally posted by superspacemonkey:

lol ark player for sure

who and why? I don't like ark for many reasons one of them is how dinosaur are driven like car(it's just a really annoying thing if not all wrong)


what can i say birds in general is a very forwarding creature, it's an evolution towards flying and there is no flying backward except for a very unique types.
so it is just natural for them go forward as it will save their lives most of the time.
But that is really not a decisive conclusion to affirm that birds can not walk backward.
Because they can, they even dance so yeah, they've got all the moves man. And this is prove enough that some birds are more capable than others.

And again, dinosaur is not birds.... they compare them as such , but dinosaur are dinosaur.

[Late Game Wonder]

Originally posted by Zentaki:

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

look at the birds and tell me how many of them you seem capable of walking backwards.
Specially Ostritches and the closely related ones.
add to that their build and come back with your "Not agreeing with experts"

dinosaur are not birds, poor comparison.

"Ask your average paleontologist who is familiar with the phylogeny of vertebrates and they will probably tell you that yes, birds (avians) are dinosaurs. Using proper terminology, birds are avian dinosaurs; other dinosaurs are non-avian dinosaurs, and (strange as it may sound) birds are technically considered reptiles."

How should I put it?
You are wrong.
Birds are the closest creatures to the terrestrial dinosaurs because they ARE dinosaurs.

[Zentaki]

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

Originally posted by Zentaki:

dinosaur are not birds, poor comparison.

"Ask your average paleontologist who is familiar with the phylogeny of vertebrates and they will probably tell you that yes, birds (avians) are dinosaurs. Using proper terminology, birds are avian dinosaurs; other dinosaurs are non-avian dinosaurs, and (strange as it may sound) birds are technically considered reptiles."

How should I put it?
You are wrong.
Birds are the closest creatures to the terrestrial dinosaurs because they ARE dinosaurs.

closest thing does not mean the same thing, with your logic you are a monkey....maybe that explains a lot

[Late Game Wonder]

Originally posted by Zentaki:

Originally posted by Late Game Wonder:

"Ask your average paleontologist who is familiar with the phylogeny of vertebrates and they will probably tell you that yes, birds (avians) are dinosaurs. Using proper terminology, birds are avian dinosaurs; other dinosaurs are non-avian dinosaurs, and (strange as it may sound) birds are technically considered reptiles."

How should I put it?
You are wrong.
Birds are the closest creatures to the terrestrial dinosaurs because they ARE dinosaurs.

closest thing does not mean the same thing, with your logic you are a monkey....maybe that explains a lot

So you are a smartazz? read the text again, text comes straight from the guys that know about this more than you and me.
Learn a thing or two in your life, don't be a dogmatic fool