Growth Farming

[Glizard]

7 hours to grow from juvi to full adult Rex and yet no one is asking or suggesting the dev team for a way to reduce the growth for herbivores and carnivores?
Here is my suggestion:
When your dino is resting its growth rate increases but at the same time the dino becomes hungry and thirsty quick.

JUVI:
Lets say I'm resting my juvi rex, the growth time gets shorten from 100 minutes to 50 minutes, but my dino becomes hungry and thirsty so I gotta go find food in which if I stop resting I have 60 minutes till reaching sub.

SUB:
Now that I'm Sub rex i decided to rest which brings down 220 minutes down to 170 minutes, yet again my sub rex complaines about hunger and thirst so I gotta go find food I stand up to find myself I only have 185 minutes left till reaching full adult.

Whats Growth Farming?
It's basically running to a corner of the map with no players around and only AI so you can sit there and literaly farm AI for 1 hour and 7 minutes till you reach sub, and if no AI spawn then the player loges off and waits like a day or an hour for AI to spawn and continue farming. I don't understand how people can find enjoyment playing as juvi for an hour.

[Ghost of Razgriz]

Dude, we already have an apex overpopulation issue right now, why make it worse?

[Glizard]

Originally posted by Ghost of Razgriz:

Dude, we already have an apex overpopulation issue right now, why make it worse?

Then solve the Growth Farming issues. there's a reason why I talked about it.

[G6]

Apex growth should be difficult and take a long time(maybe reduce the hunger or thirst, but maintain or even increase the growth time). The high reward of being an apex should be highli expensive and people should be afraid of losing their apex and hunt with caution otherwise it'd be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ killfest for apexes(pretty much is in many servers .....).

[Glizard]

Originally posted by guestt666:

Apex growth should be difficult and take a long time(maybe reduce the hunger or thirst, but maintain or even increase the growth time). The high reward of being an apex should be highli expensive and people should be afraid of losing their apex and hunt with caution otherwise it'd be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ killfest for apexes(pretty much is in many servers .....).

I'm not only suggesting this for just 'apexs' but for carnivores and herbivores. Sorry if that was misunderstanding.

[G6]

Originally posted by HUИК:

Originally posted by guestt666:

Apex growth should be difficult and take a long time(maybe reduce the hunger or thirst, but maintain or even increase the growth time). The high reward of being an apex should be highli expensive and people should be afraid of losing their apex and hunt with caution otherwise it'd be ♥♥♥♥♥♥ killfest for apexes(pretty much is in many servers .....).

I'm not only suggesting this for just 'apexs' but for carnivores and herbivores. Sorry if that was misunderstanding.

Yeah for apexes i think it should always be difficult, but for other dinos maybe some conditions to increase/decrease growth rate, like suchos growing faster while close to water, paras while in herds, trikes a little faster if 80%+ food and slower while under 20%, etc... That would be cool.

[Glizard]

Originally posted by guestt666:

Originally posted by HUИК:

I'm not only suggesting this for just 'apexs' but for carnivores and herbivores. Sorry if that was misunderstanding.

Yeah for apexes i think it should always be difficult, but for other dinos maybe some conditions to increase/decrease growth rate, like suchos growing faster while close to water, paras while in herds, trikes a little faster if 80%+ food and slower while under 20%, etc...

Exactly what I'm talking about! Sorry if my discussion was confusing af. I'm just bored with game sitting around as a juvi only to found killed with only 5 minutes left to reaching sub, but I think the resting idea I suggested should be implemented 1st because the devs can suggest how fast growth rate goes when resting and how long till hunger and thirst should sit in for each dino. Belive it or not I haven't explored the map since I'm focused on reaching sub for an hour.

[[Ravenous]]

Originally posted by HUИК:

7 hours to grow from juvi to full adult Rex and yet no one is asking or suggesting the dev team for a way to reduce the growth for herbivores and carnivores?
Here is my suggestion:
When your dino is resting its growth rate increases but at the same time the dino becomes hungry and thirsty quick.

JUVI:
Lets say I'm resting my juvi rex, the growth time gets shorten from 100 minutes to 50 minutes, but my dino becomes hungry and thirsty so I gotta go find food in which if I stop resting I have 60 minutes till reaching sub.

SUB:
Now that I'm Sub rex i decided to rest which brings down 220 minutes down to 170 minutes, yet again my sub rex complaines about hunger and thirst so I gotta go find food I stand up to find myself I only have 185 minutes left till reaching full adult.

Whats Growth Farming?
It's basically running to a corner of the map with no players around and only AI so you can sit there and literaly farm AI for 1 hour and 7 minutes till you reach sub, and if no AI spawn then the player loges off and waits like a day or an hour for AI to spawn and continue farming. I don't understand how people can find enjoyment playing as juvi for an hour.

That is a huuuuuge change to growth-time Oo

I don’t think it would be completely out of place to have a small modifier to boost growth by some mechanic or other, but tying to resting, aka making players even more passive seems like a bad idea, and making the boost a whopping 50% reduction to growth?!

Calling it excessive just doesn’t seem to quite cover it for some reason...


I totally understand what you mean about being stuck as a juvie for hours on end, but just remember this; a juvie Rex is quite capable of challenging an adult Utah, and a juvie Giga is still able to get kills, you can be very active as juvies of all types except maybe the sucho due to it’s lack of speed, so hiding in a bush at the tail-end of nowhere just to be safe is a choice you made, and safe usually means boring, especially in this game


Edit:
I’d just like to add that playing this game for as much as I have lately, nothing is more exciting and provides the same rush and tention as playing a juvie so long as you play smart, stay active and don’t fall for the temptation of some safe spot where nothing bad ever happens and all you would do is essentially afk and wait to get to adult, ‘cause nothing is more boring than afk’ing to me atleast

[MultiDavid]

Originally posted by Nice Killer:

Idk what server you play on but 90% of the time you are on official you will barely see any other dinos than juvie/sub/adult gigas/rex. I played in a herbi herd a while ago and we moved across the entire map and were together for around 3hrs and we only saw 5 adult rex, 2 juvie rex, 1 sub rex, a dilo, a succo, and that's it.

Everyone knows rex can face tank any dino in survival rn so everyone plays rex. Go on the official discord and check the server chats it's all "Any wex packs wanna waze me to adult?" or "Any nesting wexs!?" or "Anyone wanna pack on rex? Same IGN?".

That's why I quit playing on official and moved to IGP. Herbi on official is pointless and playing trike is a death sentence. You'll be lucky to find 1 tiny ass herbi herd on official servers unless a streamer is doing a viewer pack and even then someone sees you and switches to their alt account as a rex/giga and show up w/ their boys and kill you all. If you just wanna play utah, dilo, allo, or carni apex then official is the place.

Growing carni apexes should be more difficult since they are so OP and common. The grow times were already shortened and they've been buffed almost constantly and hunger is a joke now and no issue at all.

I sat with a herd of 3 maias, 3 diablos, 5 triceratops, a few Paras and maybe a Dryo or two, the only things that found us were a pack of 6 dilos, promptly slaughtered, and a small pair of allosaurus. Herbivores aren't pointless on officials, and trike's not the panzy you make it out to be since people are growing them

[Bill_Clinton_Supreme]

The officials and servers overall need higher player limits, V3 is an absolute monster of a map that needs probably double the current limit it has now. I think for apex growth, we have a few solutions

Normalize them: Nerf apexes overall, but make them much more reasonable to get to with their new stats, so they are more fun to play against, and not as soul crushingly tedious to get to and lose. I sort of want to see rex and giga made more normal and less obscenely strong while not taking several days for normal people to get to.

Increase the entrance barrier for adult apexes: I think growth time and difficulty don't address the problem, the problem is players having no chance to die outside of bad luck in game by running into a player they didn't mean to.
Apexes will progressively get harder once more dangerous AI comes in, and humans and cannibals seem to do best against huge bulky apexes.

[Glizard]

Originally posted by Ravenous:

Originally posted by HUИК:

7 hours to grow from juvi to full adult Rex and yet no one is asking or suggesting the dev team for a way to reduce the growth for herbivores and carnivores?
Here is my suggestion:
When your dino is resting its growth rate increases but at the same time the dino becomes hungry and thirsty quick.

JUVI:
Lets say I'm resting my juvi rex, the growth time gets shorten from 100 minutes to 50 minutes, but my dino becomes hungry and thirsty so I gotta go find food in which if I stop resting I have 60 minutes till reaching sub.

SUB:
Now that I'm Sub rex i decided to rest which brings down 220 minutes down to 170 minutes, yet again my sub rex complaines about hunger and thirst so I gotta go find food I stand up to find myself I only have 185 minutes left till reaching full adult.

Whats Growth Farming?
It's basically running to a corner of the map with no players around and only AI so you can sit there and literaly farm AI for 1 hour and 7 minutes till you reach sub, and if no AI spawn then the player loges off and waits like a day or an hour for AI to spawn and continue farming. I don't understand how people can find enjoyment playing as juvi for an hour.

That is a huuuuuge change to growth-time Oo

I don’t think it would be completely out of place to have a small modifier to boost growth by some mechanic or other, but tying to resting, aka making players even more passive seems like a bad idea, and making the boost a whopping 50% reduction to growth?!

Calling it excessive just doesn’t seem to quite cover it for some reason...


I totally understand what you mean about being stuck as a juvie for hours on end, but just remember this; a juvie Rex is quite capable of challenging an adult Utah, and a juvie Giga is still able to get kills, you can be very active as juvies of all types except maybe the sucho due to it’s lack of speed, so hiding in a bush at the tail-end of nowhere just to be safe is a choice you made, and safe usually means boring, especially in this game


Edit:
I’d just like to add that playing this game for as much as I have lately, nothing is more exciting and provides the same rush and tention as playing a juvie so long as you play smart, stay active and don’t fall for the temptation of some safe spot where nothing bad ever happens and all you would do is essentially afk and wait to get to adult, ‘cause nothing is more boring than afk’ing to me atleast

Resting times can be different so for example juvi gets 40% for growth time and sub gets 20% Btw what servers are you playing on that have Apex overpopulations?

[Gadzooks]

Rex is supposed to be longer and harder to obtain once the game is fully released mind you. It wont get a reduced timer

[Glizard]

Originally posted by B.C Gadzooks:

Rex is supposed to be longer and harder to obtain once the game is fully released mind you. It wont get a reduced timer

Then reduce the growth rate when Rex is resting.

[Rippa]

I think the times should be turned up more like 12hours per apex, to many family account apex spammers.

[[Ravenous]]

Originally posted by HUИК:

Originally posted by Ravenous:

That is a huuuuuge change to growth-time Oo

I don’t think it would be completely out of place to have a small modifier to boost growth by some mechanic or other, but tying to resting, aka making players even more passive seems like a bad idea, and making the boost a whopping 50% reduction to growth?!

Calling it excessive just doesn’t seem to quite cover it for some reason...


I totally understand what you mean about being stuck as a juvie for hours on end, but just remember this; a juvie Rex is quite capable of challenging an adult Utah, and a juvie Giga is still able to get kills, you can be very active as juvies of all types except maybe the sucho due to it’s lack of speed, so hiding in a bush at the tail-end of nowhere just to be safe is a choice you made, and safe usually means boring, especially in this game


Edit:
I’d just like to add that playing this game for as much as I have lately, nothing is more exciting and provides the same rush and tention as playing a juvie so long as you play smart, stay active and don’t fall for the temptation of some safe spot where nothing bad ever happens and all you would do is essentially afk and wait to get to adult, ‘cause nothing is more boring than afk’ing to me atleast

Resting times can be different so for example juvi gets 40% for growth time and sub gets 20% Btw what servers are you playing on that have Apex overpopulations?

I have no idea what servers they play on, I’ve only rarely encountered adult apexes o EU1,2 and 3, but there are a few on IGP to be fair...but calling it an overpopulation of apexes is a massive exaggeration imho, I see tons of raptors, carnos and allos, barely any suchos and ceratos, and I only ever hear the dilos, but they are there.


Seen a group of 3-4 rexes, and then a while later you see another one, I guess it might be easy to assume, but for instance, if there are 30-40 apexes online on IGP out of 200 players. Does that really qualify as an overpopulation of apexes? XD

I’ve regularly patrolled all over from hotspot to hotspot with several different species, and over the last few weeks I still haven’t gotten to 10 adult apexes, but probably a hundred or more encounters and sightings of small and mid-sized carnivores.

Either I’m unbelievably lucky or people are exaggerating because they hear the rex broadcasts from time to time Oo

[Glizard]

Originally posted by The Captain:

I think the times should be turned up more like 12hours per apex, to many family account apex spammers.

Or we can do that so resting growth rate time is balanced