Survival Tier List?

[Flishster]

Just curious what everyone would rate each survival dino in terms of survivability on the current dev branch, and then potentially make a list everyone (generally) agrees upon.

I'd say, for just the dinos I've played recently:

S Tier:
-Allosaurus (grows fast and has no trouble surviving once fully grown- it overpowers or outruns everything. By far the most powerful carnivore right now.)

A Tier:
-Dilophosaurus (really good speed, stam, and damage- the real kicker here for Dilo is it has a very slow hunger drain, and amazing night vision. This means you can pretty much play exclusively at night as Dilo and do just fine.)

-Dryosaurus (fast, agile, and small at all stages. Grows very quickly as well. All these things mean the Dryo is very good at surviving.)

-Utahraptor (grows super fast and has pretty decent stam and agility. Really, it's simply just outclassed by Dilo in everything it does right now.)

B Tier:

-Tyrannosaurus (grows very slowly, but its juvie stage is a pretty good hunter for a juvie, and once it hits Subadult, it has probably the best survivability of the apex subadults. Once fully grown, it's completely unmatched in power.)

-Carnotaurus (has a pretty bad time as a juvie, but grows pretty fast. Once fully grown, is unmatched at speed, and can still survive on oros and tacos if it wants to. Still must be careful because its turning is garbage, and it's one of the few dinosaurs with momentum currently)

C Tier:
-Gallimimus (very fast and grows quick, but outclassed by Dryo in just about everything but speed. Unfortunately, its speed is still outclassed by Carno, so this doesn't make much of a difference. It's a lot more noticable than dryo because of its bright orange coloration, and being significantly larger.)

-Ceratosaurus (Probably has one of the most compotent juvies. That said, it needs to eat very, very frequently and has probably one of the worst, if not the worst night vision in the game, meaning you have to physically log out at night or risk starvation, even as an adult. Once you've reached adulthood, you are probably one of the best midtiers, assuming you don't starve.)

-Giganotosaurus (Has the worst juvie stage in the game- it's slow, big, colorful, does garbage damage, and is significantly lower in weight class than comparable sized juvies, making it a meal on runway legs. Its subadult is pretty garbage too, but at least it's not bright orange. Its adult state is probably the most powerful predator in the game, but as is evident from the fact you don't see adult gigas, very few people make it to this state because it takes absolute ages to reach.)

-Parasaurolophus (Bad stam, trot speed, bleed heal, and the Para's sheer noisiness all work against it. That said, it can outrun most threats, and beat the crap out of the others. The reason it is not any higher is because of the aforementioned issues, and its comparitively long growth period.

D Tier:
-Triceratops (slow growth rate, unable to defend itself as juvie or subadult from anything of comparable size. Once fully grown, is outclassed in power and speed by the rex.)

-Maiasaura (Outclassed by Para in just about everything except trot speed. In addition to all of Para's problems, it also turns like a truck and cannot effectively move in forests. Can beat the crap out of small predators, but it just struggles too much with bigger things.)


I haven't played Giga, diablo, or the Hadrosaurs in quite a while, so I've left them from this list! If anyone would know how Maia and Para compare to each other in particular, I'd like to know!

[Dimitris]

utah is better than dilo in everythink but bleed and slightly less hp
giga is prety strong
trike once grown can only be beaten by rex which are also very rare
ceratos can bully anythink smaller than an apex if they want amd its hunger drop rate got slowed
galli can escape anythink at any time even as a juvie its prety fast compair to others with fast growth its only drawback is how boring it is
dilo is prety damn slow and weak prety much any other carnivore exept utah one shots it and both carno and allo i belive out speed it (possibly giga too)
allo has same growth with cerato and more than carno and its bleed got a big nerf i belive like -10 or -20 bleed still discent bleed

[rustyOkin]

don't know about juvies/subs but once you reach adulthood there are only 2 "S-tier" dinosaurs and those are the Giga and the Carno.

Carno simply becasue it can run from anything stronger than itself
Giga not because its op (i think Giga is almost ok balance-wise) but because so many other dinosaurs are outright useless! Its ambush for example is still better than Allo's...

Paras might have faster runspeed than Gigas but their trot AND their stam-regen is worse which is a disaster, once a Giga spots them they are pretty much dead and can be "walked" to death

Maias seem pretty solid because they have good speed and trot and can escape most things, don't know how well they can fend off carnos without bonebreak though

can't really tell if Diablo is any good

About the ones you mentioned:
Utahs: fast and loads of stam, bad trot - can survive but can't hunt a whole lot other than juvies

Dryo: don't know a lot but i think they need a speed/stam and stam recovery boost

Dilo: meh... too slow to escape mid tier carnis, has a good trot though, night vision helps as well

Cerato: garbage, might be able to bully other mid tiers but is slow and a free meal for Gigas

Allo: not as good as many think especially after the nerf but still ok, slower than a Para

Galli: best herbi in my opinion, fast as hell and a crapload of stam, also has amazing trot-speed, only really has to be aware of ambushing Utahs and Carnos which it can juke

Rex: absolute garbage, might be super strong but can't even catch an allo in ambush speed, catching anything as Rex is a pain overall, also totally not viable as a solo-player cuz those mixed herds will gang up and kill ya... fun!

Trike: even worse, slower than rex but nerfed to the ground so it can't defend itself against rexes which makes 0 sense

[Dimitris]

rusty you should count in that its 10x times easier to grow a herbivore than a carnivore
also allo is only 1 kmph faster than giga

[rustyOkin]

Originally posted by dimi:

rusty you should count in that its 10x times easier to grow a herbivore than a carnivore
also allo is only 1 kmph faster than giga

growing faster is no excuse for being useless as an adult, the goal is not just to reach adulthood but also to be able to survive as an adult

[Flishster]

The thing about Dilo is that while it isn't the best at anything (except obviously bleed), its night vision is such absurd leaps ahead of everything else, you are at a significant advantage because it's dark longer than it is light, anyways. Also, because of how good its trot and stam are, they really make up for its mediocre sprint, and you can bleed out even pretty large things with how much bleed you do. Furthermore, you spawn in pretty large as a juvie dilo, so you can overpower a lot of other juvies right off the bat.

And giga is really good and really counters a lot of midtier predators, but it still has a long growth timer and it probably has the worst juvie stage of any carnivore right now. It has no stamina, is slow as hell, and sticks out like a sore thumb (as most of the orange dinosaurs do). Its subadult is pretty bad as well, especially compared to rex.

Also trike can defend itself from most things as an adult, but its subadult is worthless and that's the real problem with it. I had a Utah facetank me as a subadult, despite being much smaller than me, long enough for a cerato to come in and one shot me afterwards.

[The Pollie]

Honestly, I'd rank Ceratosaurus lower. The dinosaur is fine, it's just the absurd hunger drain holding it back. If they fixed that, I'd credit it far more highly. As it stands, it's just counter-fun to deal with, but it's otherwise a well-balanced carnivore.

[Evil Minіоn]

From the OP I would swap Rex and Dilo. The descriptions even tell it this way around for me. Rex being fairly okay throughout the life stages and a powerhouse as adult would qualify it as A tier while Dilo just seems to specialized. Sure it does really well at night but during the day it isn't all that great. As I personally value mobility I would put Utah on roughly the same level as Dilo.

Para is really fast for it's size but as written above it tends to have bad matchups by running out of steam and is not stealthy at all. C tier right next to Galli would probably fit well enough.

Maia and Diablo seem to be kind of redundant better versions of less grown Paras and Trikes.

[Flishster]

I almost did place Dilo lower, but you have to remember that right now it's pitch black 75% of the time. Being able to see at night is incredibly valuable, and Dilo is the only Dinosaur with really reliable night vision right now. I've survived longer as Dilo than anything else because you can literally just AFK in the woods during the daytime and hunt exclusively at night and never even come close to starvation. I'm pretty sure it doesn't even have to eat to reach adulthood right now.

[Dimitris]

Originally posted by Flishster:

The thing about Dilo is that while it isn't the best at anything (except obviously bleed), its night vision is such absurd leaps ahead of everything else, you are at a significant advantage because it's dark longer than it is light, anyways. Also, because of how good its trot and stam are, they really make up for its mediocre sprint, and you can bleed out even pretty large things with how much bleed you do. Furthermore, you spawn in pretty large as a juvie dilo, so you can overpower a lot of other juvies right off the bat.

And giga is really good and really counters a lot of midtier predators, but it still has a long growth timer and it probably has the worst juvie stage of any carnivore right now. It has no stamina, is slow as hell, and sticks out like a sore thumb (as most of the orange dinosaurs do). Its subadult is pretty bad as well, especially compared to rex.

Also trike can defend itself from most things as an adult, but its subadult is worthless and that's the real problem with it. I had a Utah facetank me as a subadult, despite being much smaller than me, long enough for a cerato to come in and one shot me afterwards.

it can easily hide in a random lake since it doesnt need to hunt until adult

[Juang]

I considered making my own tier list once, but I have a feeling that the tiers will have a massive overhaul with the addition of humans and how well dinosaurs matchup against them.

[Why Watt]

Ok so here are my thoughts:

-Carno sure as hell is not a B tier dinosaur, saying C tier would be optimistic. It has no habitat it can reliably survive in, horrendous agility and is the only dinosaur that cannot take on anything near its size, hell they cant even fight eachother because it would take five years.
Their juvis are pretty darn helpless, and have such low bleed/power/regenerative properties worsened further by being as agile as a bus...

-T.rex has to be A tier, considering that it has one of the three good juvi carnivores, the other two being Cera's & Dilo's. It is sufficiently fast, quite stealthy and has enough power to hunt for itself. The subadult is also very powerful, quite mobile and self-reliant. The adult is a powerhouse.

-Utah is pretty horrible, simply because it struggles to hunt anything, can be ambushed by many of the large predators, is shredded by every other adult carnivore in the game & can only hunt AI & Gallis - with ambush. Dryos are simply too agile for them to reliably prey on, and are also too rare. I'd say that it would be C tier.

-As others mentioned, the fact Ceratosaurus has such horrendous night vision and hunger means that you cannot play as it reliably. It can beat up most other creatures it could encounter, but is also notably quite slow and hard to sneak around with.

-Dryosaurus is flat-out S tier, given your metric is survivability. Buffing its speed and stamina, as rusty brought up, would be busted. Its is extremely agile, essentially losing no speed when turning - a trait shared by Herra, a dinosaur that I've plenty of times ran towards apex dinosaurs to troll them as they try to bite the MGL pro dinosaur (Dryo do the same, trolling megapacks is fun). Amazing juvenile, high agility, speed and stamina, very stealthy coloration & small size.

-Giganotosaurus would be C tier, why? As an adult they are quite a threat, but considering they spend so much time growing as the most worthless of the juvenile dinosaurs in the game (my juvi Cera was half the size of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ juvi Giga, I saw it power-walk towards me and I was like yay! lunch, bc I killed it with ease.) It can be killed by every other Juvi except juvi Carno. Juvi Utah, Dilo, Rex, Cera & Allo ♥♥♥♥ on juvi Giga. Sub Giga is also pretty lame, considering it is loud and a very appealing target to well-equipped predators like Allosaurus.

-Dilo is A tier, potentially S tier if you want to factor in what it does. It has an amazing trot, does not need to feed much at all, has the deadliest of the juvis in the game, is sufficiently fast, the stealthiest of the orange dinosaurs, has stellar night vision which is an immense advantage considering that the game is dark most of the time. The fact that it can ambush and kill an apex creature at night and drop them with bleed - they can oneshot a Diablo that is rushing them head on, so they can kill things like Allo, Utah, Carno, Maia, Para provided they do not take a beating. In addition, Dilo are surprisingly hardy. They need to feed very little, fast growth allows them to capitalize on the night.

-I agree on Trike & Galli with the OP in their rankings, and have nothing to really add on that end.

[Flishster]

The reason I did not put rex in A tier is because even if it does have one of the best juvie stages, it's still not fully grown for quite a while, making it an easier meal for a long time, and once it is fully grown, it's slow speed does limit its meal choices. Honestly, once Stego and/or Anky are added, it will probably just right up to A tier since it's not just relying on ambushes or trikes to feed.

[Why Watt]

Originally posted by Flishster:

The reason I did not put rex in A tier is because even if it does have one of the best juvie stages, it's still not fully grown for quite a while, making it an easier meal for a long time, and once it is fully grown, it's slow speed does limit its meal choices. Honestly, once Stego and/or Anky are added, it will probably just right up to A tier since it's not just relying on ambushes or trikes to feed.

Hey, T.rex ambush is pretty damn scary nowedays... If you do not run a strait line, most dinos are done.

[Flishster]

So I moved up Utah to A tier after some thought, and added Giga to C tier. I almost added it to be D tier with trike, but being able to thrive with no problem once fully grown is something that definitely puts it above trike, even if it has a worse juvie stage.

Gonna test out Maia and Diablo next.

[Dimitris]

Originally posted by Flishster:

So I moved up Utah to A tier after some thought, and added Giga to C tier. I almost added it to be D tier with trike, but being able to thrive with no problem once fully grown is something that definitely puts it above trike, even if it has a worse juvie stage.

Gonna test out Maia and Diablo next.

trike thrives just fine as an adult and eats plants meaning it can hide and grow making it easy to reach adult and only fear rexes who are rare