Question about Sub-Adults

[Drogoth]

So basically what I want to ask is; Where do the Sub-adult Rexes, Gigas and Trikes stand in the pecking order of the Isle right now?

I usually never bother playing with the aforementioned dinos, considering how effing long it takes for them to reach the adulthood (especially with my limited patience), but for curiosity's sake since I'm nearly reached the sub-adult stage as a Giga; as a highly paranoid person I would like to know which animals sub-adults are capable of taking head-on in one-on-one fights and which dinosaurs should I avoid at all cost, just so I could avoid making any suicidal moves.

[Why Watt]

Subadult T.rex is faster and more deadly than Allosaurus, albeit has inferior stamina and stamina regen. A near-full Subrex hunts Allos. Subrex can run away from the apexes but has no hope of taking them on, and should not mess with Para.
Subgiga is the weakest thing in existance. Its 'strong' so you can't facetank them well, but its turn is so bad they are easy prey to Utahs
Subtrike is still quite strong, and smaller dinos should avoid at all costs, but its an easy meal for an Allo, Cerato etc

[DevilTwins]

I don't play Giga or rex much. I've played Giga Twice in survival and Rex once in survival. Though i play herbs mostly.
From what i gathered. This is the ranking of those dinos from strength.

Sub Rex, Sub Giga, Then Sub trike.

Sub trike is Crap. It can get solo'd by pretty much anything. Honestly. Just don't waste your time getting to adult with this. Because last i heard, Adult trike, can't out run rex or out damage it. It basically dies. That's around 5 to 7 hours gone. I'm not quite sure how long trike now takes to get to adult, But i've heard people said it's the same time as the rex.

Sub Giga Get's solo'd really easily too. Don't fight dilo's, Utahs, Allo's, cerato's. Also avoid Sub rexes. As a sub giga, stick to killing ai. And stay quiet and out of sight. You'd probably get killed the second your seen.
If you do manage to reach adulthood as a giga. Avoid rexes. They have more stamina then you do. And just like rexes you don't gain stamina while moving. At least your trots faster. With giga, if you've been spotted, it's best to get out of the rexes line of sight and keep to the heavy foilage.


Sub rexes are apparently in a good spot.

[Drogoth]

Originally posted by DevilTwins:

I don't play Giga or rex much. I've played Giga Twice in survival and Rex once in survival. Though i play herbs mostly.
From what i gathered. This is the ranking of those dinos from strength.

Sub Rex, Sub Giga, Then Sub trike.

Sub trike is Crap. It can get solo'd by pretty much anything. Honestly. Just don't waste your time getting to adult with this. Because last i heard, Adult trike, can't out run rex or out damage it. It basically dies. That's around 5 to 7 hours gone. I'm not quite sure how long trike now takes to get to adult, But i've heard people said it's the same time as the rex.

Sub Giga Get's solo'd really easily too. Don't fight dilo's, Utahs, Allo's, cerato's. Also avoid Sub rexes. As a sub giga, stick to killing ai. And stay quiet and out of sight. You'd probably get killed the second your seen.
If you do manage to reach adulthood as a giga. Avoid rexes. They have more stamina then you do. And just like rexes you don't gain stamina while moving. At least your trots faster. With giga, if you've been spotted, it's best to get out of the rexes line of sight and keep to the heavy foilage.


Sub rexes are apparently in a good spot.

Wow, basically all my questions got answered with this in one go.
Thank you for your professional approach, this has been very informative.

Though not gonna lie, reading all the cons sub-giga now possesses made me cringe quite a bit... This certainly won't going to be a pleasant run, but at least I know what to avoid. But then again trying to play hide-n-seek as something large as a truck will be a challenge of its own... -_-'

[BlackBeard]

I have many hours of play with the Gigantosaurus

I can tell you that when you're a sub-adult you have to avoid any other adult dinosaur ... the only one you can beat is the dilophosaurus 1v1 2v1 will easily win ...

with the sub giga you can attack and kill all the juv and sub rex if caught by surprise .. the sub giga has a very high bleeding resistance (like the adult giga) that allows you to kill a sun rex (not too big) 1v1 against the sub rex it is risky because it is very low on your own and on its state of growth ... a bit like sub giga vs sub giga ...

Raptors are to be avoided under any circumstances ... you are an easy prey for them ..

the life of the adult giga is very (too) difficult ... especially when on the server there are many raptors on every pool of water.

In summary

you can face:
all juv
Sub rex
Sub Allo

never face:
raptors
adult dinos
dilophosaurus if they are in numerical superiority

Gl hf

[Zwüfistupfm]

Utahs are the best

[EdvonSchleck]

With a sub Giga, frankly killing anything that is your size or adult comes down to plain luck. Most adult creatures can just facetank you and will casually walk off your bleed. The more squishy ones like Utah and Dilo can easily juke you and wear you out over time. Sub Rex has far superior mobility and should always win if done correctly. You could perhaps mess with a sub-Trike but I'm not 100% sure. I would say more often than not you should avoid conrontation with anything but a Dryo or juvies at all cost. Even a determined Gali could probably kick you to death. It would take an eternity, but I'm sure it could do it.

Sub Rex appears to be in a good spot. I mean unlike sub-Giga it can properly hunt and at least juke and escape certain dinos. But given equally experienced players it still falls victim to most adult creatures in my experience. I'm not really sure if it could take on a full grown Allo at any point. Seems a bit outlandish to me tbh. In my many hours as a Carno I did not once come across a sub Rex that stood a real chance. A pair of them is a different story though. No doubt they become quite formidable opponents towards the end of their sub-adult stage.

Can't really say too much about sub-Trike, but it appears to be food for basically all adult Carnivores in survival right now. I could imagine it being capable of fending off a sub-Giga. Probably dies to a sub-Rex though.

[Zephyr]

I can't speak for sub gigas nor trikes but I can honestly tell you that a sub-rex is very underpowered with low damage potential, bad bleed heal and bad blead appliance.
Today I had a extended fight with a fully grown Utah and from my understanding the amount of damage / health and how much bleed you get depends on mass and size between the two dinos fighting.
Throughout the 10-15 minutes of cat and mouse I applied bleed to the utah 3 times in which he healed within seconds while my bleed stayed for the entire fight and it ultimatly killed me. Neither did my bites seem to do any major damage to him since he always would come back to nip me in the butt at every possebility he had.
So from my experiance is and have always been that avoid any contact with people untill you grow to an adult and even as a adult you have to be carefull about that bleed damage because you wont heal any of it.
I hope the devs will revisit the rexes since juvi and sub bone break got removed two or so patches ago.

[Człowiek Woda]

Sub rex is trash. You will get mauled by any other non juvi carnivore dino. Utah might not kill you but usually there are more than one and that means death sentence. Your bites are so weak that even if you manage to ambush one he will just walk away without any consequences. Maybe at fully grown 1.0 sub you can beat Carno but not without almost bleeding out. Allo can destroy you and even juvi cerato can beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of smaller sub rexes.

[Drogoth]

Welp, just died with my sub-giga after reaching the growth of 0.785. Got actually "hunted" down by two HERBIVORES (Diablo and Maia) that caught me off guard... peeeerhaps I'll just stick with the non-apex carnivores until the sub-adult stages actually gets tolerable to play with... I mean 4-5 hours sticking with oros and tacos, along with the fact that you have to stick to the bushes as a truck sized animal gets really old really fast, especially when I prefer nomadic play style over sticking in one region just to play safe, leading into really dull gameplay...

I mean with allos, carnos etc. I don't even feel mad of dying since those guys at least have reasonable growth times compared to Apexes... Not sure if reaching apex adult is really worth all the gray hair the stress and frustration causes...

[DevilTwins]

Originally posted by Drogoth:

Welp, just died with my sub-giga after reaching the growth of 0.785. Got actually "hunted" down by two HERBIVORES (Diablo and Maia) that caught me off guard... peeeerhaps I'll just stick with the non-apex carnivores until the sub-adult stages actually gets tolerable to play with... I mean 4-5 hours sticking with oros and tacos, along with the fact that you have to stick to the bushes as a truck sized animal gets really old really fast, especially when I prefer nomadic play style over sticking in one region just to play safe, leading into really dull gameplay...

I mean with allos, carnos etc. I don't even feel mad of dying since those guys at least have reasonable growth times compared to Apexes... Not sure if reaching apex adult is really worth all the gray hair the stress and frustration causes...

Yeah, they're not worth the time to get rn. Stick with the smaller dinos. They're much more quicker to reach to adulthood, as well as more balanced out. Apart from the herbs. The only balanced herbs in survival rn are probably dryo, Galli and possibly Para.