Trex vs Deinosuchus

[Puppet Pal Clem]

How do you think things will work out, i believe it should be either way. Deinosuchus has a bite force up to 10tons and scientist have estimated that deino could bite harder than a rex. Not only that they can do a deathroll and destroy apex predators with its massive jaws and bite.

If trex came to sip some water and deino came up and caught rex by the throat or head, it's over! Deathroll and take a huge gaping piece of the dinosaurs body off. Imagine having your head or throat being deathrolled by this https://media.sciencephoto.com/e4/45/02/76/e4450276-800px-wm.jpg (next to a full grown man)

this is trex jaw/head http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/shared/npr/styles/placed_wide/nprshared/201805/453304138.jpg (next to a full grown man)

Swear to god, deino could put rex's entire head into its mouth with some space left over.
It could go either way, a rex could kill a deino on land, but as soon as rex comes to the water either to drink or swim (rex are slow swimmers) , it's over! Deinosuchus could grab a rex leg and pull him to the bottom and deathroll his legs off and let the blood flow out into the water attracting more deinos to feast ont he rexes body.

[Smilez]

Dinosuchus will be a surprise attack play style. Find a nice deep pond / swamp system then wait for your prey to take a drink of water, when the time is right drag them down and proceed to death roll and drown them. Your initial attack will cause damage just from the pure bite force but unless you're a very large Dinosuchus it won't one or two shot for awhile. Personally I will not be hunting on land under any circumstance as a Dinosuchus, like I said above I will be finding a water system that is so deep nothing (except for other water Dinosaurs) will be able to reach me if my surprise attack doesn't pan out.

I really think this will be the best play style, if you think you'll be roaming around on land hunting large prey like a T-rex then you'll be on the losing end every time.

Anyways I really can't wait for this croc to be released! I'm hoping to keep one alive for a year or more to try to become one of the biggest across all servers!

[Bill_Clinton_Supreme]

Messaggio originale di Why Watt:

Messaggio originale di Krona:

Well considering that deinosuchus is a chimera specimen of some unknown tyrannosaur teeth and crocodile vertebrae, let's assume those would be combined, it would make the teeth a lot more powerful, as most crocodile teeth are simply straight and conical, the teeth of a tyrannosaur would be serrated and apt for power, adding all of this together with a speculative giant crocodile and you got probably the strongest bite in the animal kingdom, or at least near rex's power. But Deino has huge surface area with it's bite and will be able to bring rex down and very quickly with it's speed

Deino easily has this in the bag with asspull chimera parts and overall just being absolutely monstrous.

*cough*

You do realize there are a great many Deinosuchus specimens that have been found, from both of the continents that were divided by the Interior Seaway, right?

There is a scientific paper coming out talking about how it's an invalid genus, and there isn't, all we have are teeth and some vertebrae, and as I said, they were teeth of some unknown tyrannosaur mixed with a giant crocodile's vertebrae, there still is a giant crocodile, but definitely not like deinosuchus, since even when it was valid, it was still literally a TOOTH taxon.

[Bill_Clinton_Supreme]

Messaggio originale di Why Watt:

Messaggio originale di Krona:

Well considering that deinosuchus is a chimera specimen of some unknown tyrannosaur teeth and crocodile vertebrae, let's assume those would be combined, it would make the teeth a lot more powerful, as most crocodile teeth are simply straight and conical, the teeth of a tyrannosaur would be serrated and apt for power, adding all of this together with a speculative giant crocodile and you got probably the strongest bite in the animal kingdom, or at least near rex's power. But Deino has huge surface area with it's bite and will be able to bring rex down and very quickly with it's speed

Deino easily has this in the bag with asspull chimera parts and overall just being absolutely monstrous.

Furthermore, basic physics understanding would allow you to understand that a greater surface area reduces the power of a force delivered... it's the entire principal behind bullets; a very freaking small surface area, the tip of the bullet, is delivering a rather small force, but that is proportionally massive compared to said surface area. As such it does a load of damage. Flipside to this, a Deinosuchus may be delivering some truly awesome bite forces... but it's jaws are so massive that the force is spread out and as such only truly strong at remaining shut, not really clamping down.

Even modern Nile Crocodiles rarely kill whatever large game they attack outright despite biting down, full force, on the neck or head of animals coming to drink... they usually rely on drowning or dismemberment - with the assistance of their homies - to kill prey.

So a Deinosuchus only would benefit from that massive power if it bites down and tries to drag massive prey back into the water... which it could do w/o letting go, or yknow, just hold onto them and deathroll them to death

That's fair, but I think deinosuchus being able to wrestle rex down to the ground or into the water ultimately is what gives deino the advantage here.

[Darth Absentis]

I think the deinosuchus, should kinda be iimplemented only if there is some struggle mechanic in this game to where a dino could actually try to get him/herself on land and the succes of that varries on what weight said dino has compared to the deinosuchus.

for an example, a deinosuchus weighing 2 ton...i think that yes, it should be capable of pulling any dino under that weighs less then it, but something of comparable size....well...i feel like then there should be some button maching mechanic involved to see who is truelly the strongest at his game.

as for anything like a rex....weeeeeell, if some rex player is idiotic enough to go iddling near the water, gets attacked by a deinosuchus half the size, yet stays iddle, i think that rex should go under with it.

that being said, if the dino the deinosuchus attacks did overpower it so much that the prey it was going for did not even take much damage, and it pretty much pulls said deinosuchus on land, by right, said deinosuchus should be then laying on land, and have either the option to catapult itself in the water before it gets chewed down, which actually should happen if for an exampe he attacked some carnivore with a strong bite 2 times his mass, or either, if it is some lone herbivore of comparable weight class to himself, go at it again at of course the risk of being even pulled more onto land and being more vulnerable, that is, if said prey item did not simply u-turned out of that place and was fast enough to do so before getting bitten a second time.