Why is this almost $80 in the UK, but only $60 in the US?

[Bad Whippet]

Come on, Ubisoft, stop ripping off us Brits (again). Not buying until we get a fair and equal price.

[Warlord]

Messaggio originale di BadWhippet:

Come on, Ubisoft, stop ripping off us Brits (again). Not buying until we get a fair and equal price.

Another uneducated Euro complain about regional pricing.

I love how you Euros get so mad about the prices of entertainment, but when it comes to atrocious VAT and insane self destructive politics that are the real reason you are so angry at entertainment you are absent.

[Farsight]

Messaggio originale di Acharenus:

It has nothing to do with giving poverty stricken people a break...at all, to suggest that is ridiculous.

I guess it depends on how jaded you are... Myself, I'm very idealistically minded, and an unrepentant optimist to boot. That being said, I am aware of exactly why poverty stricken countries recieve a discount.

While it would be nice to think that these Publishers are "giving poverty stricken people a break" it's more likely that unless they discount their games, then they are going to miss out on a significant amount of sales, which translates as a huge hit to profits than if they had discounted the game.

[Morgan]

Messaggio originale di Vyndicu:

Is it possible that VAT make up the most of the extra $20 that UK pay for the $60 dollar edition? Or is that add after the extra $20?

Messaggio originale di Rhenthyl:

People tend to forget that the US price does not include taxes, since those are added at checkout. Where as the UK price includes the 20% VAT.

In the US people tend to cheat the system to avoid paying the tax, but thats not possible in the UK

VAT is not the issue.

[vipp]

Lol us Australians get price gouged far worse. They want $70 USD from us, convert that and it = $94 AUD. Majority of AAA games also cost $90,convert that and its $122 AUD.

[Cilvaa]

In Australia it's $USD69.95, with the currency conversion from USD to AUD, its about $AUD99.39.

So people in the US pay $60 in their local currency and Aussies pay $100 in our local currency. Ubisoft screws us again.

And they wonder why Aussies are the biggest software pirates.... IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS CRAP UBISOFT! IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS!!

[Farsight]

Messaggio originale di Cilvaa:

Messaggio originale di Winter:

Lol us Australians get price gouged far worse. They want $70 USD from us, convert that and it = $94 AUD. Majority of AAA games also cost $90,convert that and its $122 AUD.

In Australia it's $USD69.95, with the currency conversion from USD to AUD, its about $AUD99.39.

So people in the US pay $60 in their local currency and Aussies pay $100 in our local currency. Ubisoft screws us again.

And they wonder why Aussies are the biggest software pirates.... IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS CRAP UBISOFT! IT'S BECAUSE OF THIS!!

I wouldn't touch the subject of Australian game pricing with a 12 foot collapsible pole.

Instead, I direct you to this article that goes into the full grizzly details.

http://www.kotaku.com.au/2010/11/why-do-videogames-cost-so-much/

[Joe Stanley Laserpants]

Maybe just wait for a sale? You don't HAVE to play this game NOW. Stop looking for instant gratification and just be patient. Be savvy with your money. Steam gives you this opportunity, so take it.

[Vyndicu]

Messaggio originale di Morgan:

Messaggio originale di Vyndicu:

Is it possible that VAT make up the most of the extra $20 that UK pay for the $60 dollar edition? Or is that add after the extra $20?

Messaggio originale di Rhenthyl:

People tend to forget that the US price does not include taxes, since those are added at checkout. Where as the UK price includes the 20% VAT.

In the US people tend to cheat the system to avoid paying the tax, but thats not possible in the UK

VAT is not the issue.

I AM asking what is the VAT amount total. If it applies after or before the $80 price. That would not hurt to clarify some questions I am sure people will have.

[Cosmic]

By law anything sold in the UK must have the VAT included in the price, in the EU the law is different and VAT can be shown at checkout but many show it in the price like the UK.

Ubisoft is not ripping the EU off, its ripping everyone off equally.

[Morgan]

Messaggio originale di Vyndicu:

Messaggio originale di Morgan:

VAT is not the issue.

I AM asking what is the VAT amount total. If it applies after or before the $80 price. That would not hurt to clarify some questions I am sure people will have.

It is shown in the price, however this is not the reason for the price hike as the game is expensive compared to the vast majority of other games in the UK market. There seem to be a move over here where some publishers are trying to push up “normal” top end price of digitally distributed PC games by 25%. At the moment there are only two steam games priced at £50 but there is also a flurry of pre-order tittles in the bracket. Best thing people over here can do it not pay this price. Most of the £50 titles still have normally priced boxed versions. In the case of the Witcher 3 the boxed version was available for £32 while the steam version was £50.

[Player1]

I have to say, we aren't poor in America by a long shot. Where I live, life is really good. But there is an idiotic misconception by a group of morons in this country, that assumes europeans aren't getting good services for the money. AKA, NHS sucks, VAT taxes are ownerous and all business flees europe because of it's over priced corperate tax system. Obviously this isn't true. Our expensive health system sucks far worse than NHS, believe that. I just waited 2 months to get a new GP, and I pay twice as much for my healthcare. There are plenty of jobs in Great Brittain and France, and I would assume life is generally pretty good. And business taxes here appear high, but our corrupt governement has lowered the taxes for the wealthy through absurd wright offs that leave the biggest companies and richest people paying nothing for taxes, while poor people pay 35% of their check only to have it come back to them through our welfare system.

Anyway, one US dollar is equal to 1.36 AUD, so, at $60 US the price minus VAT is 81.36. Add in VAT at 10% and the price is 89.50, so it does sound like the same price with VAT added.
For the EURO, the deal sucks. The exchange is 1 to .92. So they should be paying $55 USD. With VAT, it is $66 USD.
The worst is the UK, the British pound is worth way more than the dollar. 38.45 GBP is what they should pay! With 20% VAT added that is 46.15!. I would consider it robbery at 60 GBP. At 80 GBP, that is 124.82 USD! Pay me like 70 USD and ill send you a copy. Unless that was $80USD or 51.27 GBP?

[Deep]

Messaggio originale di CE_GCOcommander:

I have to say, we aren't poor in America by a long shot. Where I live, life is really good. But there is an idiotic misconception by a group of morons in this country, that assumes europeans aren't getting good services for the money. AKA, NHS sucks, VAT taxes are ownerous and all business flees europe because of it's over priced corperate tax system. Obviously this isn't true. Our expensive health system sucks far worse than NHS, believe that. I just waited 2 months to get a new GP, and I pay twice as much for my healthcare. There are plenty of jobs in Great Brittain and France, and I would assume life is generally pretty good. And business taxes here appear high, but our corrupt governement has lowered the taxes for the wealthy through absurd wright offs that leave the biggest companies and richest people paying nothing for taxes, while poor people pay 35% of their check only to have it come back to them through our welfare system.

Anyway, one US dollar is equal to 1.36 AUD, so, at $60 US the price minus VAT is 81.36. Add in VAT at 10% and the price is 89.50, so it does sound like the same price with VAT added.
For the EURO, the deal sucks. The exchange is 1 to .92. So they should be paying $55 USD. With VAT, it is $66 USD.
The worst is the UK, the British pound is worth way more than the dollar. 38.45 GBP is what they should pay! With 20% VAT added that is 46.15!. I would consider it robbery at 60 GBP. At 80 GBP, that is 124.82 USD! Pay me like 70 USD and ill send you a copy. Unless that was $80USD or 51.27 GBP?

Best Comment here. Well done.

[Anderson]

Messaggio originale di soldier905:

Messaggio originale di Farsight:

I think the arguement is that the United States of America are being charged less, rather than the United Kngdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland being charged more.

I mean have you actually looked at the state of living for the average American Citizen? It isn't pretty, in fact it's extremely unpleasant. America is in the same place Russia is, if they charge them the normal price, then they'll either refuse to pay or resort to piracy. It's an unfortunate, but managable situation.

Its area dependant in the US imo as some areas are worse than others . For games here the common price for nearly all new games (hard copies)is $60 . To me it being a download $60 is still too much as there isnt any manufacturing of cds in this case .

Who cares, the price is higher than a huge majority of games, there is no reason for it!

[Bad Whippet]

Messaggio originale di Anderson:

Messaggio originale di soldier905:

Its area dependant in the US imo as some areas are worse than others . For games here the common price for nearly all new games (hard copies)is $60 . To me it being a download $60 is still too much as there isnt any manufacturing of cds in this case .

Who cares, the price is higher than a huge majority of games, there is no reason for it!

To be honest, I actually don't mind a higher price if the depth is equal to the sheer depth of Anno 2070 (which put Simcity 2013 to shame quite frankly). However, I DO object to huge regional disparities in pricing when there is no economic reason for it. It's something EA would often try to do though they remedied it in the last EA purchase I made at the last minute prior to release. If Ubi are pulling the same, then those affected will hopefully vote with their wallets and not buy it at full Steam price (at least, that is what I will do).

[Farsight]

Messaggio originale di Anderson:

...there is no reason for it!

Well, actually: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/2274/question_of_the_week_responses_.php?print=1