Rytmik Ultimate

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Metalfan1 May 11, 2018 @ 7:33pm
Rights to publish
So, I've reading some parts, and as far as I understand
- We, the users, can do whatever we want, commercial or not, with the music we create (by arranging the pre-recorded musical notes provided by the program)
- The developers only has the rights to the music we create to keep it in their cloud, but they are not the owner of the music (just the music that is already composed by them)
Last edited by Metalfan1; May 11, 2018 @ 7:34pm
Originally posted by ◢ k r i s ◤:
Practically speaking, yes. As for the Cloud, if you simply don't upload your songs to the Rytmik Cloud they never even come into Cinemax possession. Those have been the intentions, anyways. Circumstantially, it is quite confusing and many people have found ways to interpret the EULA differently, but each concern has essentially lead to the same conclusion officially.

evidence:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1699415798772146523/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1483232961048852486/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/133258593408461669/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/487876568233854342/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1694917906655679318/

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While Cinemax has non-exclusive rights to your song when uploaded to the Rytmik Cloud, they do not own it and mostly intend to use those rights to share your song with others on the Cloud platform (and on their Youtube channel, such as if your track gets featured based on user response to your song on Rytmik Cloud). Although I believe Cinemax respects Privately uploaded tracks too - so even then if they are in posession of your song via their server storage I think remains exclusive to you. (this can be useful if you want easy access to some of your tracks across multiple machines/devices without copying the .ruf files over)

The problems usually arise when users wish to use the demo songs included in ROM or just single notes from the sample selection and claim ownership to those. Clearly the user did not make the Demo songs so they have no ownership rights to them - and while the individual sound samples alone do not constitute as creative-work of the user and rather a part of the program by itself, their is some leniency to the measure of modification expected before a user can use them externally. https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/133262487498269163/

Another potential issue is when users share songs on Cloud with others as "Unlocked" which essentially enables others to take that song and easily remix or copy it. You would still own the original song, but the potential risk of others taking your content and making claim to it (either on Rytmik Cloud or elsewhere) is there and a burden you might not want to deal with. Essentially making it safer to just avoid using the Rytmik Cloud to publicly share your content that you intend to use commercially (at least until after you actually have commercial claim to those songs elsewhere, anyways). That's just my practical philosophy though - that's why most of my songs in Rytmik Cloud are Unlocked covers and remixes. If you care about this stuff and have the resources to chase down theft and get into fights you can be more liberal about how you share stuff on Cloud, probably.
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◢ k r i s ◤ May 11, 2018 @ 8:30pm 
Practically speaking, yes. As for the Cloud, if you simply don't upload your songs to the Rytmik Cloud they never even come into Cinemax possession. Those have been the intentions, anyways. Circumstantially, it is quite confusing and many people have found ways to interpret the EULA differently, but each concern has essentially lead to the same conclusion officially.

evidence:
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1699415798772146523/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1483232961048852486/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/133258593408461669/
http://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/487876568233854342/
https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/1694917906655679318/

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While Cinemax has non-exclusive rights to your song when uploaded to the Rytmik Cloud, they do not own it and mostly intend to use those rights to share your song with others on the Cloud platform (and on their Youtube channel, such as if your track gets featured based on user response to your song on Rytmik Cloud). Although I believe Cinemax respects Privately uploaded tracks too - so even then if they are in posession of your song via their server storage I think remains exclusive to you. (this can be useful if you want easy access to some of your tracks across multiple machines/devices without copying the .ruf files over)

The problems usually arise when users wish to use the demo songs included in ROM or just single notes from the sample selection and claim ownership to those. Clearly the user did not make the Demo songs so they have no ownership rights to them - and while the individual sound samples alone do not constitute as creative-work of the user and rather a part of the program by itself, their is some leniency to the measure of modification expected before a user can use them externally. https://steamcommunity.com/app/375840/discussions/0/133262487498269163/

Another potential issue is when users share songs on Cloud with others as "Unlocked" which essentially enables others to take that song and easily remix or copy it. You would still own the original song, but the potential risk of others taking your content and making claim to it (either on Rytmik Cloud or elsewhere) is there and a burden you might not want to deal with. Essentially making it safer to just avoid using the Rytmik Cloud to publicly share your content that you intend to use commercially (at least until after you actually have commercial claim to those songs elsewhere, anyways). That's just my practical philosophy though - that's why most of my songs in Rytmik Cloud are Unlocked covers and remixes. If you care about this stuff and have the resources to chase down theft and get into fights you can be more liberal about how you share stuff on Cloud, probably.
Last edited by ◢ k r i s ◤; May 11, 2018 @ 8:40pm
Metalfan1 May 11, 2018 @ 8:36pm 
Thanks for the response, everything is 100% clear now :PlayMusic:
Angelus Mar 22 @ 8:45pm 
TLDR "make the song have the rights?" This hasn't changed has it?
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