Battle of Yamazaki

[Vin362]

Okay I finally managed to get lucky enough to get the Tsutsui and the Hosokawa’s trust to 40, but for some reason no matter where I Move Mitsuhide I atomically fail the mission to move to Mt Tenno, if there is anyone who has done this battle as the Akechi where do I move him so I can try to get on with the rest of the battle?

Thanks, in advance.

[Circumpolarity]

Mt Tenno is where the Hashiba army I think?
Just move Mitsuhide Akechi to the center of the battlefield and Mitsunobu Isshiki straight where his army is facing.
Now while Mitsunobu engages some enemy units, Mitsuhide can go to the center without being engaged by the enemy, there you go.
If it's not working move Mitsuhide a little bit to the south (if you're using 'north-facing' camera)

[salatrin]

During the event where he is talking with Saito, he says that the tennozan mountain is to his right and the marsh to his left.
So during the battle i just moved Akechi's unit as far to the right towards the mountain as i could but slightly northward, and then he moves past the centre unit to the right and once Akechi clears that closest unit to him, the rest of the event then triggers for me.

[Circumpolarity]

Originally posted by salatrin:

and once Akechi clears that closest unit to him, the rest of the event then triggers for me.

Weren't Mitsuhide supposed to not engage before reaching his destination?

[salatrin]

Originally posted by Koukou_19:

Originally posted by salatrin:

and once Akechi clears that closest unit to him, the rest of the event then triggers for me.

Weren't Mitsuhide supposed to not engage before reaching his destination?

When i do it, he technically doesnt engage, he just gets shot at a few times, Ive tried it a few different times doing it different ways and the only one that works consistantly for me is as soon as the event battle begins, i select Mitsuhide and set his target all the way to the right and slighty up so its end is set to the southern tip to the huge mountain on the right.

Mitsuhide will move that way behind his other unit, the 2 enemy units, Kuroda and Hidanaga(i think) both close in on your other unit but as your unit passes, a fwe shots get fired and then when i get half way to the destination i selected, the next part triggers.

Then i immediately choose ALL my other units and bring them all over to where Mitsuhide is and wipe out Kuroda and his friend, then i spread them all out slighty in between Mitsuhide and all the enemies and kill each unit as they come with all mine while slowly moving up the right side letting all my other units eat the damage and saving as many troops of Mitsuhide that i can for when the big event finale triggers and you finally have a decent shot at taking out Hideyoshi's 13k stack

[Alice®]

i cant get both trust to 40, only either tsuitui or hosokawa. someone please shed some light into this sitituation

[Vin362]

Originally posted by Alice®:

i cant get both trust to 40, only either tsuitui or hosokawa. someone please shed some light into this sitituation

What you need to do is hope that a merchant comes to see you sell some food and buy items you need at least 2 one for the Tsutsui and the other for the Hosokawa, gift them so they can become friendly and use Mitsuhide and priest Tenkie to get their trust to 40, note if you see that effect goes down a point for example if Tsutsui has 27 and the Hosokawa has 29 I found that switching officers worked with Mitsuhide have 13 for Tsutsui and Tenkie having 11 for Hosokawa, just to warn you that much like the rare resource plots being random so are the chances of getting a merchant that sells something it took me 4 tries to do it.

[Vin362]

What I’m currently having trouble with is defeating the monkey in most special battle completing the objective raises the morale of your units but none of the Akechi offices have such an effect, the problem is the tactics that Hideyoshi’s unit has crack shot, seven spearmen elite and tiger hunt all are melee based skills and with a unit of 13k that becomes annoying, should I just rush Hideyoshi or deal with the Hashiba army?

[salatrin]

Originally posted by Alice®:

i cant get both trust to 40, only either tsuitui or hosokawa. someone please shed some light into this sitituation

Akechi will always get the trust of whoever he is earning it with no matter what (15 first month then 14 second month and 13 third month) which add up to 42, for the other, make sure to hire tenkai and then send him and hope you can get an item through merchant before right at start

My exact strategy is buy any item right at start of scenario and send Akechi to Hosokawa and send Tenkai to Tsustui(Tsustui is 3 days closer so will receive the gift quicker and gain one extra point of diplomacy over the 3 month limit compared to if you gave it to Hosokawa) then after 2 months it will be Hosokawa 29 and Tsustui at 27, then i simply switch them as Akechi will improve Tsustui by 13 giving exactly 40 while tenkai will only increase it by 12 giving 39, but Tenkai will add 11 to Hosokawas 29 while Akechi adds 13 so both of them at that point will get Hosokawa to 40 but Only Akechi at this point can get Tsustui to 40 as well and before end of 3rd month both will hit 40 at pretty much the same time

Originally posted by Vin362:

What I’m currently having trouble with is defeating the monkey in most special battle completing the objective raises the morale of your units but none of the Akechi offices have such an effect, the problem is the tactics that Hideyoshi’s unit has crack shot, seven spearmen elite and tiger hunt all are melee based skills and with a unit of 13k that becomes annoying, should I just rush Hideyoshi or deal with the Hashiba army?

i just gather all my troops en masse on the right side and put them all in between Akechi and all the other units and let them eat all the damage and keep Akechi as close to his max as possible and when the first help arrives have him assist the other units in moping up the riffraff and hope Hashiba hasnt gotten in range yet, and then i just wait for the huge finale event(you'll know it when you getit) and use that as my chance to go all out on monkey and take away his banana's as he has 0 chance at that point assuming your 2 main units from start are still decent shape

[Vin362]

Thanks for the advice I won the battle I failed the mission because I defeated Kanbei’s unit which caused the failure condition Mitsuhide losses his reason to head to Mt. Tenno. It may not have been the longest scenario I’ve played (that will forever be the time it took me to get Declare War in Iron triangle) it was intense Hideyoshi formed 2 collations against me with a 3rd created by Ieyasu, and I was under consistent attack from the Shibata for most of the game, I ended up winning the scenario as Gracia by implementing a war ban good thing I started with Nijo palace or that might have been harder.