Ascension or Normal

[Blacknight]

Can anyone suggest if I should go for the original version or ascension? I wanna get one of them but dont know which version to get.

[Nox]

I would get ascension.

- it has all the cotent of sphere of influence
- add's officer play ( tho some dislike this)
- more characters, updated portrait
- osaka campaign - is pretty fun, and closes out the period well.


- thier are a few bugs, the ai dose not raise new lords when you play as an officer. which I dont suggest doing anyway koei did a ♥♥♥♥ job designing it. However,If you want to play as a ruler this is the better version.

[Blacknight]

Thanks for the suggestion :D

[曹操]

Originally posted by Blacknight:

Thanks for the suggestion :D

Normal. Ascension was incredibly rushed. If you like Sphere of Influence then you can buy Ascension. Except for the Osaka campaign, which is like ROTK XIII Hero Mode, there's no reason why you should buy Ascension instead of Sphere of Influence. Take it from a guy who played a lot Sphere of Influence, get used to it first and then try Ascension. It's clearly the best way.

[Nox]

Originally posted by 曹操:

Originally posted by Blacknight:

Thanks for the suggestion :D

Normal. Ascension was incredibly rushed. If you like Sphere of Influence then you can buy Ascension. Except for the Osaka campaign, which is like ROTK XIII Hero Mode, there's no reason why you should buy Ascension instead of Sphere of Influence. Take it from a guy who played a lot Sphere of Influence, get used to it first and then try Ascension. It's clearly the best way.

Ascension has all of what sphere has and more why would you buy less content?

[Smokey]

Gameplay in Sphere of Influence and Ascension has quite a few differences.

You can micro-manage in SoI by increasing your daimyo's literal sphere of influence. You cannot control your faction's Houses in Asc.

Officers can be freely re-distributed and moved in SoI. In Asc, officers in your faction's Houses can't be moved.

Battles were also changed quite a lot, for better or worse. I find the "interior walls" battles in Asc a big chore, though the "auto-smash castle walls" after manual battles in SoI was too broken.

If you like to play as a Daimyo and control an entire clan, get SoI.

If you like to play as a retainer maybe you'd like Ascension more.

Personally I find Ascension needs a lot more work. SoI is better if you want to run through all the ingame Events to watch cutscenes and get to know each clan's history/story.

[Blacknight]

Hmm, I see, well I'll consider carefully before the weekend ends

[Hawky]

Thanks from me as well. Really not sure which one to get so I will probably wait until next sale, free weekend or maybe for new release which is in development.

[曹操]

Originally posted by Nox:

Originally posted by 曹操:

Normal. Ascension was incredibly rushed. If you like Sphere of Influence then you can buy Ascension. Except for the Osaka campaign, which is like ROTK XIII Hero Mode, there's no reason why you should buy Ascension instead of Sphere of Influence. Take it from a guy who played a lot Sphere of Influence, get used to it first and then try Ascension. It's clearly the best way.

Ascension has all of what sphere has and more why would you buy less content?

Sphere of Influence is a complete game. Ascension was incredibly rushed and as I said, you should only buy it first if you want to play the Osaka scenario. Which to be honest you will get easily lost as a newbie giving, that the Ascension system is more complex, and an extra scenario, that is pretty much an Hero Mode, isn't worth what you pay for it.

Speaking of new content: Playing as a retainer is fun but it doesn't come close to past Koei experiences. A lot of people complained. The event editor also needs more work. As for portraits and officers, I made a project with all of them to download in SoI.

Long story short: Ascension is fun but buy Sphere of Influence first. If you like it, then try Ascension.

[Gapaw]

I have both games and Ascension by far is better....

[Vin362]

I bought Ascensions because it had all the main DLC scenarios, the Osaka campaign was a bonus. I like the garden politics system as I have always preferred to give each castle a little start before giving control to the computer.

Officer play I’ll be honest I thought it would be awesome but it turned out be somewhat dull, if the officer you are playing as has low politics development will be slow, on the other hand if your valor and leadership are not high enough you won’t be gaining honor any time soon, this in my opinion makes management more annoying than just being a daimyo.

[Blacknight]

now it's even more hard to choose XD
Might go for original first

[Sauron]

... Ascension clearly, as was mentioned, it makes no sense to go with SoL, when Ascension is SoL + more features....

[♪～くまモン～♪]

If you are really really familiar with sengoku period in Japanese history, go for the normal ones. It's easier to activate all those history events in the normal one. Ascension is more focused on officer mode and thus you can't control the whole situation. Some history events are hard to activated in ascension. I own both games, so I can tell. I'm a huge fan of those events, so I prefer the normal one. The only reason I buy Ascension is that I want to play as Sanada in Osaka Scenario. As a retainer, you can't even control all the troops. Sometimes, your lord will give you some rediculous missons that are impossible to complete and you don't have many choices to get your subordinators.

[Ange1_of_Fate]

Idk why people are saying ascension was rushed and the ai doesnt get new officers, all of that isnt true at least now the problem is the ai gets too happy and takes all the officers and people with max happiness arent even safe from the ai conversions and half the time it doesnt notify that they are meeting with another clan! Other than that its a pretty decent game allows for a lot more troops to be deployed now with the new facility system too you thought honganji was bad with that 15k osaka try them when they have like 30k troops after a year of gameplay its crazy