Why are the Eldar so damn nerfed in EVERY 40k?!?!?!?!

[BathoryVampyr]

Seriously, Eldar once were the mantle of the Galaxy unchallenged, in size and in technology. It pisses me off they the mass nerf such a realisticly powered race to stone throwers.

I mean really, yes a SM armor is tough, but a Shuriken Catapult should be able to pierce it like butter because of how they function. A shuriken is launched by a railgun of psykic energy while in a VERY high speed spin, and razor sharp...and high rate of fire. Yet even a GUARDSMAN without any power armor acts like it was a bee sting. Pisses me off.

IMHO Eldar could ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ overpower and slaughter the Imperium with ease, but no. 8 year zealous fanboys shouting "Fur duh emporah" cry when Eldar acutally kick there ass (like they should) and they get nerfed to a tenth of their power just to make the squeakers shut up.

Cue the hate.

[Voodoo]

I would say balance, since they can produce same numbers as other races they cant be super op.

In fluff only reason they dont control universe though is their small numbers. Its also the same reason why tau didnt stomp all over imperium.

[WarbringerVI]

This post gave me cancer. Have you heard something called 'BALANCE'?

Eldar being nothing but cheese all these years, they don't have number advantage. If you want them to overpowered because lore states that, you should consider your army size to 30 men without vehicles most. Oh what about others unit numbers? Good luck fighting 650 veterans mixed with 150 like marines with their 400 like armored vehicles.

[BathoryVampyr]

@Lithius, Um no ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ i was talking of Infantry wise. If you wish i can go full nerd on every Eldar craft and physical abilities?.........and HOW is it balanced when every game OVER nerfs Eldar to the brink of low level everything that don't do jack crap? You sir gave me cancer from your stupidity, damn Mon-keigh.

[Voodoo]

Yes i indeed believe that in pc game where you play matches of 20v20 and 30v30, 1 for 1 eldar should be about as strong as marines and orks, the lesser the difference the better.

If this simple idea gives you cancer, well i dont know what else to say.

[Warnoise]

Eldar fans are metrosexual betas who masturbat to macha.

Space Marines can obliterate Eldars any time if they wanted. But we need Space ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ for mu diversity.

[WarbringerVI]

Problem here being since when this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game f*cking balanced, you people are talking about ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ non existing thing here. I'm not defending the Eldar getting nerfed or anything but for a fact they were the easist race to play without any benefit to stop them. Remember the times where Banshees mowing down squads? Yeah I do. I better leave the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Dark Reapers out of this much as I can since they had the most broken weapons to begin with.

For a fact game needs a overall rework than anything.

Also insult me with gay Eldar language one more time. I will call Slaanesh on your ass. :v

[Schnittertm]

Yeah, Eldar, quite powerful and then they had that one Craftworld that in the end got soloed by a single, specialized Zoanthrope, the Doom or Malan'tai, which OMNOMNOM'ed all the Eldar souls.

[Red DevastatoЯ]

Originally posted by Schnittertm:

Yeah, Eldar, quite powerful and then they had that one Craftworld that in the end got soloed by a single, specialized Zoanthrope, the Doom or Malan'tai, which OMNOMNOM'ed all the Eldar souls.

oooooooh savage burns right there ... ouch

[Assblaster]

lol neutered butthurt mutants talking ♥♥♥♥.


Craftworld Pride World Wide.

[datguy13]

Originally posted by EC-CBT Rohanel:

Seriously, Eldar once were the mantle of the Galaxy unchallenged, in size and in technology.

Key words here: " once were".

So, if you're going to try a lore argument here, then you have to face a simple reality-

That time is gone, and it's been gone for millennia in the canon of WH40K. You're playing the degenerate, evolutionary dead-end of a dying species, not some galaxy-spanning super race.

[Red DevastatoЯ]

Originally posted by datguy13:

Originally posted by EC-CBT Rohanel:

Seriously, Eldar once were the mantle of the Galaxy unchallenged, in size and in technology.

Key words here: " once were".

So, if you're going to try a lore argument here, then you have to face a simple reality-

That time is gone, and it's been gone for millennia in the canon of WH40K. You're playing the degenerate, evolutionary dead-end of a dying species, not some galaxy-spanning super race.

Im lovin this thread

[awc]

GUYS, TEH IMPERAL GURD UNDER MY BOY SOLAR MACHARIUS UNCE RULED EVERYTTHING COZ LIEK WHY THEY NERFED NOW?! Ok.

[Schnittertm]

Originally posted by datguy13:

Originally posted by EC-CBT Rohanel:

Seriously, Eldar once were the mantle of the Galaxy unchallenged, in size and in technology.

Key words here: " once were".

So, if you're going to try a lore argument here, then you have to face a simple reality-

That time is gone, and it's been gone for millennia in the canon of WH40K. You're playing the degenerate, evolutionary dead-end of a dying species, not some galaxy-spanning super race.

Additionally, if we go for that argument, then we would also have to compare the technological capabilities of mankind in the Dark Age of Technology, which was beyond anything they had in the 30k setting (e.g Titans as standard even for PDF). Since the Age of Strife everything has been going downhill for mankind, too and it hasn't been improving.

If you'd ask me personally, I am working on theories of general and special stupidity and so far they seem to hold up. I mean, look at it, we have sentient races, that have the capability to judge many actions for future impact, see what will make everything better and what will make everything worse and then do everything to ensure that the latter will be enacted. I only have one gnawing doubt, I think a guy named Murphy might have beaten me to the theory and even made it a law.

[Malaficus Shaikan]

To answer the op question:
Because for many people balance means all factions being the same.
Rather then all factions being equaly strong.

I dont know why but everything a faction players diffferent it is called unbalanced and gets nerf until it is a copy of the space marines(see: dawn of war 2)

Personaly:
I would have made the eldar extreemly fast with instant kill weapons and 1 hp.
That way the eldar dont have survivabilty and rely on getting the first shot or die.
On my warlock i often heal a "dying" eldar to full heath in five seconds.
I shoudnt be doing that.
I shoud be doging bullets, using my powers to confuse and rip armies apart then get hit by something and die.

But then people will whine:
Eldar are op i cant hit them with my massive explotive rounds and 300 shot per second bolters.

[Voodoo]

Even if we bring up dark age of technology.

Eldar technology is second only to old ones and necrons.
And during birth of slaneesh most eldar died, before they further split into dark eldar and further into craft worlds. Low low numbers, good for defense of single ship, bad for waging galaxy wide conquest.

Im not sure that even during dark age of technology imperium matches current tau technology though they indeed used more plasma weaponry and even ai's.