Clearing Up Some Misconceptions.

[Xblade_Uk]

Ok so i almost did not buy the game due to discussions i read and negative reviews before hand but as usual all the negative stuff that almost put me off were misconceptions so i will give my opinion to debunk the negative comments i have seen,

1.The combat is really bad and you cannot jump whilst fighting.

No it is not, take time to see how the combat works and it is brilliantly done especially ranged with a staff ,do NOT spam attacks and hope to hit something ,make precise attacks and use Tab to switch targets whilst NOT spamming attack, to jump (which people are complaining cannot be done in combat) do NOT spam attack ,you can jump when not attacking to get around the map (this is not COD or CSGO ,i am happy of this mechanic because i think it is skilless behavoir to constantly jump whilst attacking like many COD,CSGO and other games players do) ,and use w,a,s,d and space to roll out of the way instead of standing there being hit whilst spamming attack.

2.Cannot go fullscreen.

Yes you can, the settings seem to have a bug or something at the moment that when setting to fullscreen etc will not work for setting the resolution but it is a simple temporary fix until it is patched to rectify this by going to the games local files by right clicking the game in your library and picking browse local files ,edit the config file in there with something like notepad++,to set fullscreen and resolution, i am playing fullscreen in 3840x2160 with the settings maxed and in 2160p/4k and it runs smooth as butter with no stuttering or any slow down during loading etc ,and it looks stunning.

3.There is no point to the game.

Not true if you think that then there is no point to Minecraft,Terraria etc etc etc ,the point is to have fun in a similar way to Minecrafts SkyBlock or Terraria do not think of it as tiny island game world but one huge world connected by portals to gather items across like Starbound's spaceship can take you around the worlds collecting gear to take back to your home planet. You encounter a tutorial which has so called quests but they are just very well done tutorial directions to get you acustomed to the game with no need to have them on the next maps you move onto once you have learnt the basics. Spend as long as you want on the first island and get a couple of levels under your belt rebuild the house and basically get prepared for the next island.
Once you get to the next island grab some materials copper etc that are found on certain islands that will help build more items in your house like an anvil etc and head back to the first island to build them, (i do not know if the islands that you head to are the same for everyone or are random) and restock health potions etc,plant some crops or whatever you want to do before setting back off again to explore some more.

4.Have to take the workbench with you.

Not true either there is no need whatsoever to break and take your workbench with you, if you want a house,castle etc in each island then make a bench to take with you or just pop back like i mentioned in 3.

5.Talk of bugs and crashes.

(edited this section as there was some confusion thinking i meant all crashes/bugs found are down to the player which is not what i was implying and assumed people would know this)

I myself have not encountered a single bug so far and have had no crash so i feel it could also be down to problems the players end not just the game or everyone would be having the same crashes and they are not, I am not saying everyones issues are down to problems there end which goes without saying ,which i mention again later in a few places, but i feel some could be down to drivers or not having the correct system specs etc etc, i cannot be sure 100% on this but i have a feeling some of the complaints are not down to the game being bugged causing all the crashes and does not deserve instant negative reviews before seeing if the player can find help from the devs or community behind the reason for the crash.

6. Clunky controls and camera.

People complaining giving negative reviews for clunky controls and bad/clunky camera movement outside of combat and the player moving slow/laggy and cannot jump up on to ledges etc properly.
This is also not true the movement is fluid for the camera and jumping and the player movement is also very fluid and not slow or laggy at all, and if that is the case then the Pc the players complaining of this on is not upto running the game, either at all or at the settings they have it at. Also the camera snapping back can be set in the settings by having manual and using right mouse button held down to look around or perpetual so that it follows the player which is really well done, even with it set to manual in combat you still need to hold right mouse down to turn the camera manualy when locked onto a mob if you want to look at a view from behind your character, as it follows the mob with your player face on coming towards you etc if the mob changes direction which is also fine and is quick and easy to get used to ,i personaly think the camera work is very well done and a nice fresh change.

To finish i will say that if the negative reviews of the stuff i have mentioned put you off then have another think about it because it is a very very well done game and if you enjoy this style of game then you woul dbe missing out due to misconceptions which we see way to much when it is down to player error (not always) a lot of the time ,giving games a bad review that is inacurate and not deserved ,i blame a lot of it on what i call "the console generation" wanting to be able to just pick up a game and play with nothing to set up ,but as Pc gamers that is the nature of the platform and many do not understand this and complain when there is no need if they were compitent with some knowledge.

Do not get me wrong i am not talking about everyone that has problems with games as i know the nature of Pc gaming and many know what they are doing and still have issues beyond there control ,i am mearly saying we are seeing a lot more of negative angry comments (i am talking many games) that could be avoided by just asking politly for help to rectify the issue before making negative reviews ,a lot of hard work goes into the development and it is sad to see unnecesary negatives.

It is exellent for early access and puts many other EA to shame. There will be people that clearly disagree with this post but i am not putting it up to debate or argue or say anyone is not having issues with it, the things i have posted are my findings as an experienced gamer of many years and thought my findings that are a fact how i have seen the game run and behave will help people that are unsure but want to play it and maybe help those that are having a bit of trouble getting used to how it works.

[Hagrom]

Respect Sir. Just cant agree with no bugs. At least i have one: All my weapons and tools are broken and i do not need to repair them. Its a great Game so far.
Haha, Sorry wrong info. You still can use them but with less efficience.

[AnimatedAnt_505]

Wow... Seriously [Xplays]Xblade_Uk, thank you so much for the kind words. It means so much to us and we're so grateful for the support. Portal Knights is going to evolve a great deal over the coming months and we need community members like yourself on board. It's guys like yourself that are going to make this game something really special.

[Titanofdoom]

Someone is pushing for a sticky ^^

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by PK_CM505:

Wow... Seriously [Xplays]Xblade_Uk, thank you so much for the kind words. It means so much to us and we're so grateful for the support. Portal Knights is going to evolve a great deal over the coming months and we need community members like yourself on board. It's guys like yourself that are going to make this game something really special.

You are most welcome it is the least i could do after the hardwork that goes into creating something like this.

And Portal Knights is done particulaly well for the early stage it is at ,very refreshing among the many EA titles. I feel it is slightly abused sometimes and have had some bad experiences with EA (i know the risks though) but i still have faith in developers and when a gem like this comes along it just bolsters that faith .

So Thank You and your team for the hard work in bringing us this exellent title and i am very happy to support you, i believe in being honest about a game and i understand it is very difficult with the multitude of hardware out there for a game to not have issues that may not be just down to the game itself so i am glad i have been able to share my findings and i hope it has been a help to others trying to decide to give it a go, i am very glad i did and am thoroughly enjoying it and cannot wait to see it progress!.

We know there are many games similar to Minecraft being a prominent title in the voxel genre and Portal Knights along with Creativerse are the only two i feel stand up as solid equals in there own right to Minecraft. :)

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by Hagrom:

Respect Sir. Just cant agree with no bugs. At least i have one: All my weapons and tools are broken and i do not need to repair them. Its a great Game so far.

Thank you and that is interesting i have missed that then as i did not try using them broken myself i have been fixing them before they are at the broken stage. Hopefully should be a quick fix, i really like the idea of the repair idea it is a fun addition.

[emp456]

While i agree with you about the rage negative reviews and complaints without first asking or knowing how the game works, i cannot agree at all with you in the way you present your arguments.

Combat: '...it is brilliantly done' is just your point of view. Is completely subjective, but you present that as a fact to say that all the others complaining or giving criticism feedback about it are wrong.

Bugs/crashes: 'I have not encountered a single bug so far and have had no crash...' is a common used sentence, and an absolute one. I mean, congrats for you, but there are bugs ingame and with a lot of different systems/pcs and combinations out there, you cannot say that all the crashes are player's fault because you don't have any. That's arrogant and you are just saying all the rest are idiots because you don't have problems. Be a little more humble and don't speak for others.

I said this without any intention of offense, i'm just saying that you cannot be absolute towards the rest of the player's. Those are not arguments, just your subjective point of view and that's doing very little to help improve the game and polish it if the devs agree with you and think there are no problems here and people is moaning for nothing.

That said, i think the combat can improve, but i don't think it is bad at this moment. I don't like being fixed to a target because the way the movements and actions work in this game. I really think that can be improved.

I also don't like not being able, in general, to move at all while doing another action. Mining and building without being able to move is very uncomfortable, and given the default camera behaviour, is also confuse and is not precise.

But those are things we can discuss here and feedback to devs, and are also just my opinions (i'm not the only one that thinks this way and we are not 'complaining', we just give feedback)

Other than that, i agree we must separate which complaints are blind and already have a solution, and which ones are right and need a solution to be implemented by devs in future patches. Just don't be so absolute against other people and censor their opinions saying that any of them are valid. This is an EA game, and while is very polished, it's here to be judged, to have feedback, to be polished and bugs and crashes are expected, so i think the opposite about criticism: it's very welcome, and we need a lot (and we need the devs to read it also lol)

To finish: again, don't take this as an offense, just my opinion about your post and not trying to flame or troll anything. Respect (but respect for all)

PS: ups, one more thing, please take in account that english is not my mother's language so before misunderstandings, please ask me.

[Septillion]

You also can teleport to any world you have visited via your map at any time so once unlocked you don't need the portal.

Overall for a EA game its perfect many are complaining expecting a full huge game forgeting what EA premise is, The complete game will be much bigger and have more content the EA game is like the pilot to a new tv series.

Maybe the devs in the initial tutorial add a few more quest to cover some more of the game basics like maps, teleportation, Building homes etc or have a in game wiki.

[Xblade_Uk]

Ok fair enough i respect that you have added that you mean no offence thank you, that said ,yes it is my point of view i agree but it is also that the combat is factualy very well done and the peoples comments i refer too are the ones complining it is broken and doesn't work or the camera is locked which is not really a good explanation ,if you hold right mouse button down whilst in combat you can freelook all around fine ,to me it works in the way it seems like it was intended to,it just takes a little bit to get used too. If players do not like the way it is done then that is fair enough and there opinion too but i was more explaining how it works and it is not broken so to help understand it from what i have learnt already.

As far as the bugs crashes are concerned i also said what you are saying if you scan back through it i basically said what you are saying already,here is what i said

"Do not get me wrong i am not talking about everyone that has problems with games as i know the nature of Pc gaming and many know what they are doing and still have issues beyond there control ,i am mearly saying we are seeing a lot more of negative angry comments (i am talking many games) that could be avoided by just asking politly for help to rectify the issue before making negative reviews"

and this

"i understand it is very difficult with the multitude of hardware out there for a game to not have issues that may not be just down to the game itself so i am glad i have been able to share my findings and i hope it has been a help to others trying to decide to give it a go"

which is not saying that all the bugs crashes are the players fault, i have been gaming for 33 years so i am very aware that this is not the case.

I am also saying that i have not found any bugs myself and that it feels very polished in its EA state so if it is that way for me then it is also going to be for many others that may not have tried it due to poor negative comments which i selected carefuly that are not worthy of a negative review that almost put me of buying it when they were like i said either not the case or not "game breaking reasons" .It goes without saying that the devs are not going to take just my post as you said in your own words the final testament to the game being in no need of polish or improvements as there are no problems ,that is just nuts to imply and the devs state it is going to evolve a great deal over time.

Your remark below about arrogance are words you are putting in my mouth with that remark, i like constructive criticism but this part i do find offensive and not a fact because i do not write things that are not factualy and have not at somepoint experienced, but at no point have i said anyone that has a problem are idiots.

"that's arrogant and you are just saying all the rest are idiots because you don't have problems. Be a little more humble and don't speak for others."

that is what you depict it as not what i said ,and it is a fact and i have witnessed it on many many occasions people screaming rudely for refunds and implying that a game is rubbish and broken due to there own ignorance in lack of knowledge of Pc gaming like i said but there are many that have problems who have knowledge very well and still have problems beyond there control myself included over the years which i said already, and i am not speaking for others with that i am stating a fact due to seeing it many times ,i was describing how misconceptions come about ,not that everyone is wrong.

I also dont get what you mean why you cannot move while building and mining i can move around freely fine when i rebuilt the house and was mining etc.

Anyhoo we can agree to disagree i have not taken offence as i hope you do not we are adults and discussions with disagreement if that is how one feels is better than agreeing if you do not agree,and i like to think we are above flaming as you seem like you can have a good debate like myself withoiut it.I think you have gotten the main part wrong when you mention a lot that i "censor opinions and they are not valid" that is not what i am doing so i am sorry you have taken it that way and can assure you i'm not.
I am saying there are constant patterns of the same thing said in hundreds of games that are not the game/devs fault which can cloud problems that do need to be sorted after research not instant rage refund ,and if some people were a bit more intuative we would not see the constant barrage of same negative misconceptions,
I am always helping players getting games working or help in some way so you have how you think i judge people wrong and i am glad for people to have there opinion on things because society "follow fashion" too much i just do not like when there is a big fuss made over things that are not thought through and end up incorrect.

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by emp456:

While i agree with you about the rage negative reviews and complaints without first asking or knowing how the game works, i cannot agree at all with you in the way you present your arguments.

Combat: '...it is brilliantly done' is just your point of view. Is completely subjective, but you present that as a fact to say that all the others complaining or giving criticism feedback about it are wrong.

Bugs/crashes: 'I have not encountered a single bug so far and have had no crash...' is a common used sentence, and an absolute one. I mean, congrats for you, but there are bugs ingame and with a lot of different systems/pcs and combinations out there, you cannot say that all the crashes are player's fault because you don't have any. That's arrogant and you are just saying all the rest are idiots because you don't have problems. Be a little more humble and don't speak for others.

I said this without any intention of offense, i'm just saying that you cannot be absolute towards the rest of the player's. Those are not arguments, just your subjective point of view and that's doing very little to help improve the game and polish it if the devs agree with you and think there are no problems here and people is moaning for nothing.

That said, i think the combat can improve, but i don't think it is bad at this moment. I don't like being fixed to a target because the way the movements and actions work in this game. I really think that can be improved.

I also don't like not being able, in general, to move at all while doing another action. Mining and building without being able to move is very uncomfortable, and given the default camera behaviour, is also confuse and is not precise.

But those are things we can discuss here and feedback to devs, and are also just my opinions (i'm not the only one that thinks this way and we are not 'complaining', we just give feedback)

Other than that, i agree we must separate which complaints are blind and already have a solution, and which ones are right and need a solution to be implemented by devs in future patches. Just don't be so absolute against other people and censor their opinions saying that any of them are valid. This is an EA game, and while is very polished, it's here to be judged, to have feedback, to be polished and bugs and crashes are expected, so i think the opposite about criticism: it's very welcome, and we need a lot (and we need the devs to read it also lol)

To finish: again, don't take this as an offense, just my opinion about your post and not trying to flame or troll anything. Respect (but respect for all)

PS: ups, one more thing, please take in account that english is not my mother's language so before misunderstandings, please ask me.

It is cool i dont take offense ,just a tiny bit about the one thing being seen as thinking people are idiots lol ,i definatly do not feel that about it i like to help and there are many nice people that appreciate the help and always ask ,it is a small few that i talk about raging etc without thinking or asking ;)

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by -=Tactical-Fusion=-:

You also can teleport to any world you have visited via your map at any time so once unlocked you don't need the portal.

Overall for a EA game its perfect many are complaining expecting a full huge game forgeting what EA premise is, The complete game will be much bigger and have more content the EA game is like the pilot to a new tv series.

Maybe the devs in the initial tutorial add a few more quest to cover some more of the game basics like maps, teleportation, Building homes etc or have a in game wiki.

Yes i agree i really liked the tutorial ,i would like to see a few things added it is fun, it has some very cool familiar ideas from other titles that work well combined into one game ,i am excited to see how it develops :D

[Torkkar]

ok xblade 2 points you got slightly wrong

1 can't jump in combat: this is True and also is not true when Locked on initiateing combat then pressing space to jump IS disabled however you can dodge like you said but navigation jumping is not avalable.

2 Crashes glitches & bugs: good for you and I that we have systems that can handle this game did you ever stop to cossidder some of these complaints com from players with buisness built PC their parents baught for school? or like me have to play in lowest settings (still beautiful too btw) because out hardware is outdated I'm playing just fine with an invidia GTX 630 2GB graphics card, a quad core 3.0Ghz prossessor and only 4GB RAM Ideally I'd like 32GB RAM so i could stream this game but thats just me.

point is not everyone has a gaming rig or an up to date gaming rig don't say the game has no hardware faults just cause you don't have them.

other than that your poste is spot on.

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by Torkkar:

ok xblade 2 points you got slightly wrong

1 can't jump in combat: this is True and also is not true when Locked on initiateing combat then pressing space to jump IS disabled however you can dodge like you said but navigation jumping is not avalable.

2 Crashes glitches & bugs: good for you and I that we have systems that can handle this game did you ever stop to cossidder some of these complaints com from players with buisness built PC their parents baught for school? or like me have to play in lowest settings (still beautiful too btw) because out hardware is outdated I'm playing just fine with an invidia GTX 630 2GB graphics card, a quad core 3.0Ghz prossessor and only 4GB RAM Ideally I'd like 32GB RAM so i could stream this game but thats just me.

point is not everyone has a gaming rig or an up to date gaming rig don't say the game has no hardware faults just cause you don't have them.

other than that your poste is spot on.

Thank you much appreciated ,point one yes that is correct i mean from what i have experienced it will let you jump as long as your not swinging/clicking attack ,as in i seem to be able to hit ,then jump up a 1 tile ledge hit again but i am not aware that i have disengaged combat or anything.
and your second point i am aware of this yes i have only recently built a proper real powerful gaming pc and have had the ones you speak of so i know what thats like. As i explained to emp456 im not saying that because i have no problems others do not and there all wrong ,i say a few times i know people will have problems even that have extensive knowledge of PC gaming ,it is the ones stating fact that there is no fullscreen or things that they have not looked into a fix i refer too before marking the game negative and not just this game, many others are the same ,i have read hundreds of reviews in my time on Steam and go straight to the negatives to get an idea of how a game is then research the comments in the community and positive reviews for the truth or a fix before i make a decision to buy.I am basically stating my experience so people know that it can and does work for me ,my findings are just a drop in the ocean.
i understand it is very difficult with the multitude of hardware out there for a game to not have issues that may not be just down to the game itself and can be just incompatible with certain hardware/software combinations,it can be a nightmare ,ive had 33 years of it ;p

Thanks for your input anyway ,appreciated.

[VonFIDDE]

Hated the combat and movement, however found a fix. Seems if run with a 144hz monitor the game will run like crap, but if you lower desktop hz to 60, it runs fine.

When leaving some sort of inventory i also got stucked before, seems to be solved now too.

[emp456]

Originally posted by XplaysXblade_Uk:

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Of course i also do not take offense for talking with you. It's refreshing to be able to talk to someone without flamings and insults. That's why i tried to remark that 'pls do not take this as an offense' and i can assure you that i wrote my post without any rage about yours or, even less, towards you personally.

Maybe my comment about 'censoring others' is a bit too much. I wanted to say that, saying that others are wrong because they don't like this or that is not correct and they/we also have a valid opinion, even to say we don't like the game (it's not my case anyway)

Same goes for 'arrogant'. I always found that 'don't complaint for bugs, because i don't have any and thus you don't have the right to say anything' an arrogant statement very repetitive in each EA forum. Or too absolute, if you prefer. I used the word 'absolute' because your statements were absolute, indeed (ie the combat is very bad: No, it is not, it's brilliant..) I'm not saying that you're arrogant, but that statement is, and surely it was not your intention to be and then you added the last part about 'i understand other people can have problems', etc.

And lol yes, about 'all the rest are idiots' i meant to say that you talked as your opinion is the only correct and the rest are wrong, again, and you are correcting all of us who have something to say in this EA.

I followed a lot of EA games and, in my humble experience, it's not very good to start one saying that all the game has is good and that there's no point in complaining/ranting/discussing /debating and giving feedback (negative, of course). Because then, after a few months, if things don't go well for developing, a developer can use those ultra-defending arguments to say 'well, it's ok, this is my game and it's perfect. End of development'. Of course, i'm not saying this will be the case, but feedback (and negative feedback) is good for (spur? spur on? i just googled this lol) the developer to polish and add options for everyone, if it's possible.

For the rest, as i have said already, i agree with you in the senseless complaints if those are 'this don't work', for instance (instead of reading how that works), or the blindless rage that is very little constructive.

One final comment. When i said i cannot move while building/mining is that literal. When mining a block you cannot advance towards the blocks, as happens in general when taking an action while trying to move.

Good post, anyway, for discussing a little. Thanks :)

[Xblade_Uk]

Originally posted by emp456:

Originally posted by XplaysXblade_Uk:

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Of course i also do not take offense for talking with you. It's refreshing to be able to talk to someone without flamings and insults. That's why i tried to remark that 'pls do not take this as an offense' and i can assure you that i wrote my post without any rage about yours or, even less, towards you personally.

Maybe my comment about 'censoring others' is a bit too much. I wanted to say that, saying that others are wrong because they don't like this or that is not correct and they/we also have a valid opinion, even to say we don't like the game (it's not my case anyway)

Same goes for 'arrogant'. I always found that 'don't complaint for bugs, because i don't have any and thus you don't have the right to say anything' an arrogant statement very repetitive in each EA forum. Or too absolute, if you prefer. I used the word 'absolute' because your statements were absolute, indeed (ie the combat is very bad: No, it is not, it's brilliant..) I'm not saying that you're arrogant, but that statement is, and surely it was not your intention to be and then you added the last part about 'i understand other people can have problems', etc.

And lol yes, about 'all the rest are idiots' i meant to say that you talked as your opinion is the only correct and the rest are wrong, again, and you are correcting all of us who have something to say in this EA.

I followed a lot of EA games and, in my humble experience, it's not very good to start one saying that all the game has is good and that there's no point in complaining/ranting/discussing /debating and giving feedback (negative, of course). Because then, after a few months, if things don't go well for developing, a developer can use those ultra-defending arguments to say 'well, it's ok, this is my game and it's perfect. End of development'. Of course, i'm not saying this will be the case, but feedback (and negative feedback) is good for (spur? spur on? i just googled this lol) the developer to polish and add options for everyone, if it's possible.

For the rest, as i have said already, i agree with you in the senseless complaints if those are 'this don't work', for instance (instead of reading how that works), or the blindless rage that is very little constructive.

One final comment. When i said i cannot move while building/mining is that literal. When mining a block you cannot advance towards the blocks, as happens in general when taking an action while trying to move.

Good post, anyway, for discussing a little. Thanks :)

Ah ok yes i understand what you mean i do like people to have there opinion of what they like too ,i think it shows indivduality if they do not just agree something is good just because ohers like it, i think i get annoyed the most because lik eethe part you say instead of reading how i works we see a lot of complaints in many games saying that it is broken but is not broken but the way it was intended and difficult or a new concept to learn, but then there are a lot that are broken too so i think the games that do launch broken (and there are a lot) automaticaly can make people expect it to happen now.
Yeah i get what you mean with the way it sounded an arrogant statement about bugs ,i did not word it well enough to make that clear i think because i knew in my mind i feel the way the added edit talks about and did not add it originaly so yeah i added it on ,i appreciate constructive input like you gave ,i wish like you said all debates could be like this instead of the flaming that goes on ,it is true it doesn't help the dev team that way.
I had not noticed the moving whilst building etc ,i was thinking of when i was up on my house placing blocks it felt like i was moving about placing them, and i will look out for the mining and moving towards it whilst doing so as i had not noticed that happen ,i guess it could be my gameplay style i usualy stand still mine a block move repeat so that will be why i did not notice yet i guess ,anyway thank you too for the discussion ,great posts ! ;)