How do you kick people?

[simtendo]

I'm trying to kick a hacker from my server i made. Is there anyway to kick a hacker from the console? What is the command for it?

[Mr. Mandatory]

Unforunately, there is no way to kick people. All you can really do is just make a private game.

[simtendo]

Sheesh that stink's thanks for your reply

[Lucifer]

http://www.avpunknown.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.pl?num=1444633551

[simtendo]

This guy was a predator then a marine and was unkillable there were probably 3 people trying to kill him they were aliens and predators and he was just killing them all off. this was either the world's best player at this game or was indeed a hacker.

[Grzegorz]

If it is one of the two players I am thinking of, they have been cheating within multiplayer games for AVP for a long time. The only real way to avoid this is to make some friends you like to play AVP with, then when you see an obvious cheater, all leave and setup a private server.

Keep in mind as well, there maybe some situations that may look like hacking where in reality it is just players who really know what they are doing. Particularly with the alien :)

[BROOD-SkorpioN]

Originally posted by simtendo64:

This guy was a predator then a marine

This could've actually been uMod; a mod designed for this game recently, which gave the player the option to change species mid game.

What was the name of the player you thought was cheating?

[simtendo]

i actually do not remember. all i know is he was unkillable.

[Olde]

If you see it happen again, please screenshot the scoreboard.

Also, if the person was changing species and it read something like: "<uMod>: I am now an Alien" then he or she was using the mod that Skorp mentioned, which prohibits hacking.

[simtendo]

No they were not using that mod. Would you recommend i use the MelPyth mod? For security?

[Olde]

MelPyth was designed for AVP Gold Edition. I recommend you try out uMod but currently there are no security benefits. UberFox and I have talked about possible security measures to add, but there is currently not enough public interest to motivate us to further our work.

[simtendo]

Ok thank you for your reply. Hopefully you will add security mesuments.

[Olde]

We actually developed a prototype of a vote-kick system that worked quite nicely. It needed >50% majority of voters to agree to kick a player. So never let anyone tell you that kicking is impossible because it's not. It's just never been done before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS5FoaFQohE

Thing is, in order to make this mod, it requires a lot of time, energy, and frankly support from the community that we're not seeing. We have to manually find the variables and manipulate them to create totally new commands in order for them to work in the game. Rebellion rejected our offer for our free services to improve this game in exchange for even just a part of the source code, so we had to do this all by means that most would call "hacking." However, we "hacked in" a lot of what we felt to be improvements. We asked for support from anyone and everyone, but only three other people were willing to occasionally help out. Only UberFox and I were totally invested in the development process, so only we understand the laborious effort it takes just to even find the correct APIs, not to speak of all the time and energy required to change them to finally get a single desired effect. We made over a dozen of these changes that we felt improved the game. MelPyth has nothing on this mod because Melanikus and Python had the source code to AVP Gold; we do not have the source code to Classic 2000. If we had the source code, we would be done with this mod in a day. Alas, it is not meant to be.

Long story short, UberFox and I eventually got tired of us doing all the work. We felt we were wasting our time with a dead game with no appreciative community. Not even its veterans support it much anymore or care about any mods. So you're not likely to see any security measures added to this mod unless something changes with the community.

[simtendo]

Yeah i completely understand what you mean. Its takes a long time to do this sort of stuff without the source code. Well thank you for your reply.