Sorcerer or Necromancer?

[Rapscallion_Lad]

I'm planning on doing a Wizard-->Pyro-->PsychC3...and im wondering what to end with either Necromancer or Sorceror. anyone playing these classes(oh just know their ♥♥♥♥) that offer some insight or advice on how to build towards them?

[Rapscallion_Lad]

So I think im leaning towards Necromancer, but i was thinking could you take Sorcerer C1 and finish off with Necro C2 so you can get the summon servant buff?

Here's what I had in mind:
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/29jhu54y0v/

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KORJ:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Deathman.Kenshi:

Enchant fire is one of the most OP buffs in game (along with blessing and sacrament)
Do not let 15 dmg deceive you :)

And do you think that taking it on 5 levels.
Will make you stronger? XD

that's why i been ignoring you, because you sound like a unhelpful power-playing douce

[Hefutoxin]

I don't see why not.

[Yuen]

I'd go for Necromancer myself though I'd grab Linker somewhere. It synergizes well with it's skills.

I was aiming for Sorc C1 in my Necro build too because of course more summons, but people suggested no because of the AI being bad. So I just went to Linker C3 instead.

[Rapscallion_Lad]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shigeyama:

I'd go for Necromancer myself though I'd grab Linker somewhere. It synergizes well with it's skills.

I was aiming for Sorc C1 in my Necro build too because of course more summons, but people suggested no because of the AI being bad. So I just went to Linker C3 instead.

hmm, that's good to know. is bad AI also a problem for the Necro's summons(Shaggoth, Corpse Tower, Skeletons)?

[KORJ]

Rapscallion_Lad
You think an explanation of why the choice of only one circle fire mage, a bad idea, unhelpful?Then okay.

http://i.imgur.com/dZ01ry1.jpg

But then do not be surprised why other players do not take you to the dungeon
And do not cry about what game has no reset classes.

[Rapscallion_Lad]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KORJ:

Rapscallion_Lad
You think an explanation of why the choice of only one circle fire mage, a bad idea, unhelpful?Then okay.

http://i.imgur.com/dZ01ry1.jpg

But then do not be surprised why other players do not take you to the dungeon
And do not cry about what game has no reset classes.

you did not explain anything, you just said

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KORJ:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rapscallion_Lad:

I'm planning on doing a Wizard-->Pyro-->PsychC3...

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/p60ylpwq7q/
=_=

Why do you need 1 level Pyromancer?
Think +15 Damage is cool?

Why do you need two levels of sorcerer?
Do you want to be defective?

you were too busy being condescending then you posted:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย KORJ:

Rapscallion_Lad
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/q2ptpdn4hm/
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cwj1a6iddt/

Publics builds, made by noobies, who do not know that the skill points, you can save for the next, circle.

and psihokino with ice wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fe08ySV-LY

again stroking your own ego then you post a vid that vaguely implies i should go for cryo instead. now, coming from me a teacher....you are terrible at explaining things.

now here's what you should've said:

You should go Circle 1 Cryo instead, because fire enchant is not the useful at such a low level.

^^^That is helpful, you are not...

[Yuen]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Rapscallion_Lad:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Shigeyama:

I'd go for Necromancer myself though I'd grab Linker somewhere. It synergizes well with it's skills.

I was aiming for Sorc C1 in my Necro build too because of course more summons, but people suggested no because of the AI being bad. So I just went to Linker C3 instead.

hmm, that's good to know. is bad AI also a problem for the Necro's summons(Shaggoth, Corpse Tower, Skeletons)?

I haven't heard about anyone complaining about Necro's summon's AI so I don't think so.

[Rapscallion_Lad]

Then Necro it is, thank you to everyone who helped out along the way. ill be fiddling around on the skill calc tiill i find a build i would enjoy.

[小冰块]

Lol Enchant fire is the waste of point and its can be in other skills better unless you going max 15 for just 34 element damage..

[Deathman.Kenshi]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย {iicecube}:

Lol Enchant fire is the waste of point and its can be in other skills better unless you going max 15 for just 34 element damage..

Enchant fire is for getting one more line of damage, but well if you think its useless I let you live in it :)

[virpyre]

Going Pyro2 is mostly for getting Flame Ground 100% active (25s duration and 25s cooldown). Enchant Fire isn't really useful after Pyro1, even on circle one the skills OP you can get more for support on attacks while minions do the work. You also have Flame Pillar which you can use to lock a monster in place to run if in trouble. You should also consider getting Link1 it will come in handy as a good combo for sorcerer. Some people get Sorc2 then go Necro1, others just go Sorc3.

On your build you should only put 3-4 points in Flesh Hoop (you have to be in melee range for this skill to have any worth you should also know that every single enemy hit is a separate count, while two enemies will take 7 to 8 hits each).

Also Corpse Gather is low damage high AOE Nuke, that must hit in order for it to work it has a 1 hit = 1 corpse ratio, so if the skill misses at all then you still loose all the corpses It's a waste past 1 point.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4o0t5m5e7c/

[Kyutaru]

Why no necro fans? It only has 2 tiers available. Which means the third one might be amazing. =_=

I'm hoping for Lich mode. Temporary immortality. Or maybe a spirit bond that links your health to your pets and makes them take the damage instead of you.

[Rapscallion_Lad]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย virpyre:

Going Pyro2 is mostly for getting Flame Ground 100% active (25s duration and 25s cooldown). Enchant Fire isn't really useful after Pyro1, even on circle one the skills OP you can get more for support on attacks while minions do the work. You also have Flame Pillar which you can use to lock a monster in place to run if in trouble. You should also consider getting Link1 it will come in handy as a good combo for sorcerer. Some people get Sorc2 then go Necro1, others just go Sorc3.

On your build you should only put 3-4 points in Flesh Hoop (you have to be in melee range for this skill to have any worth you should also know that every single enemy hit is a separate count, while two enemies will take 7 to 8 hits each).

Also Corpse Gather is low damage high AOE Nuke, that must hit in order for it to work it has a 1 hit = 1 corpse ratio, so if the skill misses at all then you still loose all the corpses It's a waste past 1 point.

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/4o0t5m5e7c/

I'm already at cryo and I'm about to rank up soon. So Psycho C3 or even C2 is not worth it? it seems like i should just go cryo C2 to bolster those skills.

Personally i just like the Psycho skills which is why i wanted to go that route.

so with Disinter, it gathers all corpses from any skill used or just necromancer skills?

[jvjd]

Sorceror makes grinding and dungeon mob clearing very easy , however pyro +sourceror seems sp hungry, you could get good burst but you will run of Sp very quickly

[Rapscallion_Lad]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย jvjd:

Sorceror makes grinding and dungeon mob clearing very easy , however pyro +sourceror seems sp hungry, you could get good burst but you will run of Sp very quickly

yeah, i went with Cryo instead becuse as some people pointed out Freeze status is pretty useful