So which swordmans classes are good right?

[Nimnor]

so I played a swrodsman up in until a barbain during the closed beta in until around level 50-60 or so before the beta ended so are there any swordsman classes that deal high damage and have a large amount of defense also thank for your help

[Randy Marsh]

just take pelasta at r2 and get that block, or you will be shunned later on in game.
Swordy has crap damage compared to archer and wizzy pretty much no matter what you do

[Young Erusean Officer]

You can go Swords>Peltasta>Hoplite C3>Doppelsoldner>Dragoon. You can tank and DPS very well.

[Randy Marsh]

Hue님이 먼저 게시:

You can go Swords>Peltasta>Hoplite C3>Doppelsoldner>Dragoon. You can tank and DPS very well.

just to clarify, you don't have worthless damage, you just have nowhere NEAR the damage you'd get from an Rdps, also personally not a big fan of hoppys, but that's just me.

[Young Erusean Officer]

Randy Marsh님이 먼저 게시:

Hue님이 먼저 게시:

You can go Swords>Peltasta>Hoplite C3>Doppelsoldner>Dragoon. You can tank and DPS very well.

just to clarify, you don't have worthless damage, you just have nowhere NEAR the damage you'd get from an Rdps, also personally not a big fan of hoppys, but that's just me.

I'm a griniding at the last area for level 280 right now. Groups love my DPS, they take me as damage and not tank.

[Rapscallion_Lad]

Cataphract has good Aoe and mobility.

here's a build you can try out
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/aq97u5wfwz/

[Mori]

Randy Marsh님이 먼저 게시:

just take pelasta at r2 and get that block, or you will be shunned later on in game.
Swordy has crap damage compared to archer and wizzy pretty much no matter what you do

This. I mean, it's not always the case, but just take one circle in Peltasta at rank 2 to be safe. You'll get into more parties just by having that.

[Nimnor]

Rapscallion_Lad님이 먼저 게시:

Cataphract has good Aoe and mobility.

here's a build you can try out
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/aq97u5wfwz/

alright thanks Ill check it out and I don't why I just love being coated in heavy armor and charging head 1st into battle

[Kyutaru]

Hue님이 먼저 게시:

I'm a griniding at the last area for level 280 right now. Groups love my DPS, they take me as damage and not tank.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Every time a swordsman becomes FOTM, something bad happens to it.

Promoting diversity!

[Randy Marsh]

Kyutaru님이 먼저 게시:

Hue님이 먼저 게시:

I'm a griniding at the last area for level 280 right now. Groups love my DPS, they take me as damage and not tank.

Enjoy it while it lasts. Every time a swordsman becomes FOTM, something bad happens to it.

Promoting diversity!

yeah this is what i keep hearing, which is why my swordy is still sitting at 75 not being played

[Kamltoe]

swordie3 40% restraint all day if you like pvp

[Novaren]

As long as you have Peltasta of any rank everyone will love you!

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Swordsman are the best Swordsman.

[Joren]

Problem with melee in general are all the knockbacks and CC mobs and bosses like to spam. And their cooldowns are shorter than the time it takes for you to stand back up, so if you're unlucky you can get stunlocked for a good 5-10 seconds. Squishy builds may die in that time.

In other games, melee dps is higher to typically make up for lack of uptime, but this game doesn't seem to be at the stage where balance passes are a thing even though the game has already been out for years. So it's not so much that melee is weaker, but that they suffer from far less uptime on bosses and are prone to taking far more damage which means more points spent in constitution rather than in your damage stats.

People don't call it Tree of Magic for no reason. Currently magic skills cannot miss, be dodged, or blocked and generally, magic defense is absolutely abysmal compared to the damage one can do. There is no such thing as diminishing returns or CC immunities and you honestly cannot compare swordie restraint spam to just being freeze locked from 100% to dead by a Cryomancer.

Not saying swordies can't be fun, but the current toxic late game meta revolves around pretty much doing as much as possible so you place within the top 6 of a world boss's damage list or you get nothing. Just damage, nothing else matters so its basically 1 dpser and the rest of his group is there to make sure he doesn't die and to pump his damage as much as possible.

As one of the above posters stated, grab Peltasta at first class change and max swashbuckling, maybe a point into guardian. And then you can do something like hoplite next, then Cataphractx3, then Dragoon. Or just make any of the archer classes and killsteal all day.

[Nimnor]

alright what about a nercomancer or warlock build then?

[Kamltoe]

necro 2 with almost anything is okay. Wiz3ele3warlock is a common build.