Is this Pay to Win?

[Doritos]

Looks like it is, shame.

[Hexo Mia]

yes, and if someone else tell you otherwise is delusional.

[Saint Sea Hat]

The amount of salt in the above response is too damn high.

[Richard]

no it isn't

[yea]

yes.

[Tsukiakarise]

I dunno... theres nothing that u cant get just by playing for free
There are some f2p players in top pvp rankings and well geared
If someone say its p2w then probably got his azz fked by RNG failing enchancements and it apply to everyone
Whalers lose money and F2P players lose time

[Dr.Robert]

If you want your monthly token and don´t want to collect 20m for it, yeah.

[Lantadyme]

literally tokens sitting for 8m-9m on the market, for NA

[Gigalo]

Yes

[KaZudra]

If you ever played a Chinese Mobile game, the answer is a Solid "Both"; You can pay, but the margin of waste is great, unlike US games where P2W is solid, It requires the player to be responsible with thier purchase and Events are also a good equalizer.

[Beduin]

100% it p2w game. Some items hugly influence on players stats you can`t get anyway, exept shop. Market one of the worst - 1 item selling - for non-token and 10 items for token - it one of the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ trading system in whole MMO-genre. Funny thing after last update - all need sp potions, but Alchemist can sell it only 1 every 2 hours (if it not premium).
Non donating people have very very low numbers in stats, couse enchantment stats can only be added by real money.
I see much more p2w games, but lets be true - Tee of Savior 100% P2W game.

[Doc]

Originally posted by Beduin:

Non donating people have very very low numbers in stats, couse enchantment stats can only be added by real money.

??

The game isn't P2W, goddess cubes are a ripoff, as for the TP system overall, the items you can get can help, however they don't break the game (plus, you get 5 TPs for free everyday so you can get the essentials : warp scroll, urgent repair kit, soul crystal or megaphone)

The only problem is the market now, being able to sell only 1 item without using a token (TP) instead of 10 can be a problem... unless you're smart and use a megaphone to shout your offers (wich is what atleast 50% of the people with serious offers do)

If you don't try to scam people too much your items should sell, especially SP potions

They've added other things that requires TP, however it's not 100% required, and you can play the game just fine without them (expending Character Storage, or Fishing Storage)

[Beduin]

Originally posted by TacticalNuke:

I dunno... theres nothing that u cant get just by playing for free
There are some f2p players in top pvp rankings and well geared
If someone say its p2w then probably got his azz fked by RNG failing enchancements and it apply to everyone
Whalers lose money and F2P players lose time

You lie. How you increase your storehouse size whithout donating?? Some top pets give huge benefits, especial after SP recovery huge nerf - only aviable for real money. And sums in 2-3 times more, than can afford players who BUY this game.
And other things too.
ToS p2w

[Beduin]

Originally posted by Doc:

Originally posted by Beduin:

Non donating people have very very low numbers in stats, couse enchantment stats can only be added by real money.

??

The game isn't P2W, goddess cubes are a ripoff, as for the TP system overall, the items you can get can help, however they don't break the game (plus, you get 5 TPs for free everyday so you can get the essentials : warp scroll, urgent repair kit, soul crystal or megaphone)

The only problem is the market now, being able to sell only 1 item without using a token (TP) instead of 10 can be a problem... unless you're smart and use a megaphone to shout your offers (wich is what atleast 50% of the people with serious offers do)

If you don't try to scam people too much your items should sell, especially SP potions

They've added other things that requires TP, however it's not 100% required, and you can play the game just fine without them (expending Character Storage, or Fishing Storage)

Strorehouse. Some cool pets. And so on. You can`t get it not by silver, not by dropping.

[Doc]

Increasing Lodge space costs TP, however it's not required, and with most content giving less rewards after 3 characters, you should be fine (and if you have multiple character that uses pets, using 1 pet for all characters is enough and actually better since it levels up faster that way)

[Beduin]

Originally posted by Doc:

Increasing Lodge space costs TP, however it's not required, and with most content giving less rewards after 3 characters, you should be fine (and if you have multiple character that uses pets, using 1 pet for all characters is enough and actually better since it levels up faster that way)

Storehouse not needed? you kidding??? This game have so much drop, you can sell sooooo low amount of items quick. Crafting demand insane amount dropped items and insane time to farm it, most items not selling on market never. Half player run game whith 40-60 % full inventory weigh all time, couse thay can`t afford drop needed crafing items in store. What about Class gems or normal gems? you can`t stroe all it, couse thir number huge, but if you die (new update rise this in times) - you can lost items costing 3-10 mil, just coused you can`t afford store it. ♥♥♥♥ p2 game mechanic.
Pets donating have more item slots - it mean it in times more strong and give more influence ingame. You need them in anyclass. 5 free tp give nothing just 5 times shout in chat! It even not helping trading via direct trading between players. There no trade chat. ♥♥♥♥ game. I don`t know why I spend time on it. I give it 6 times to be ok, but be honest - game almost dead and last update quicker way for this game to die. RIP ToS.