How similar is it to RAGNAROK ONLINE?

[Jekt]

I loved Ragnarok Online back then when it was popular. People say ToS is like a spiritual successor of RO.

Can someone who knows something about ToS and RO tell me in how far this is true? Also: are there MVPs in this game with cards to equip into your gear?
Or at least anything similar?

[James]

It's not a spiritual successor of RO even close. Don't waste your time on this game, it's not worth it. You can check my hours in this game and choice to belive me or not. Main problems of this game is engine (bad optimization) and really, really bad game design decisions. PVP is bad because net code is trash, PVE is meh because mechanics are bad. There's tons of classes and they are bad balanced. You can try it, it's f2p, but belive me if you think it's something like old RO - no, it's not.

[Dot]

Originally posted by DMBee:

It's not a spiritual successor of RO even close. Don't waste your time on this game, it's not worth it. You can check my hours in this game and choice to belive me or not. Main problems of this game is engine (bad optimization) and really, really bad game design decisions. PVP is bad because net code is trash, PVE is meh because mechanics are bad. There's tons of classes and they are bad balanced. You can try it, it's f2p, but belive me if you think it's something like old RO - no, it's not.

dude why do you have to go and trash the game? like, explain the reasoning why its bad at least.

[JSG]

If you are expecting something like pos-renewal RO....then yes, this game is quite similar to RO in many ways (The grinding, the style, the music is from the same team, the skill/class system, etc) .
If you are expecting something like pre-renewal RO then no, this game is a lot more linear than pre-renewal RO. Also, for the first 1XX levels all you do is a sequence of quests, theres a lot less "monster grinding" than pre-renewal RO, this one is more quest-based. That feel of "where should I level up now?" is completely absent in ToS for the first 1XX levels, the game holds your hand and tells you where you need to go and what mobs you need to kill. However, the freedom in character builds is still there.

[James]

Originally posted by Wanderer:

dude why do you have to go and trash the game? like, explain the reasoning why its bad at least.

Because as a person who loves old RO and played this game straight 450 hours from release i can have my personal opinion about it? I said - this game has a TONS of bad game design decisions. It has WORST game engine you can imagine. Devs/localizers don't care about players and game. Basically ToS is fast cash grab from old RO players and people who might like this type of MMORPG. That's it. You can read reviews and forums about this game and you'll find out that's not only my opinion about how bad this game is.

[Mlyrin]

Bosses can drop cards and those cards can be part of your equipment set(varied stats). Mobs drop gems(basic stats) as well soul gems (increases skill levels) that can be slotted into equipment.

The art style is similar. The feel is somewhat similar but it can be a little less grindy at times I guess. There are some .01 drops for some things though.(soul gems) Art is certainly similar. Hats. idk bout pvp. The sense of danger isn't as prominent early game. My highest level is just level 120-ish.

Overall I'd say this is a mix between Ragnarok online and modern action rpgs or something. I like it for now.

[TheDoctor]

it's not ro... Not even close.

[Jekt]

Hm. Sounds pretty disappointing to me.
@DMBee: Impressive, 450 hours and still you're saying the game is bad? Did you hold on to it hoping that it would improve and only gave up the game recently or why do you have so many hours?

@JSG: To be honest I didn't like post-renewal that much but mostly because of 3rd classes. New maps, dungeons and instances are always nice so I did not mind that at all. The music of ToS is made by soundTeMP? Really? :o It really is an important factor for me because I care a lot for ingame music and the RO soundtrack was absolutely amazing! I don't mind the game being linear but I hoped that leveling in ToS would be like RO, less quests and more monster killing in order to level up. I believe that's one thing I loved the most about Ragnarok because I'm not a fan of quests since they are always the same sh*t.

@Mlyrin: The thing with the cards and gems sounds pretty good! What is the max level?

What about the playerbase? I heard there are a lot of bots. Also whenever I search up things about ToS I don't find much english stuff. Are there lots of english players, too?

[big ass titties]

it isn't RO...but RO just lauched a RO Restart version....you might like that...i haven't played the old R.O my computer couldn't handle it LOL

[James]

Originally posted by Jekt.:

Hm. Sounds pretty disappointing to me.
@DMBee: Impressive, 450 hours and still you're saying the game is bad? Did you hold on to it hoping that it would improve and only gave up the game recently or why do you have so many hours?

Yeah. I hoped that the game might get better with time. Sadly, never actually happened. Trading in this game is something else to discuss. Restrictions, restrictions, restrictions. You can read about it in old reviews, how developers handle problems with trading bots and spam in chat. You'll be surprised that they make things only worse for players in the end. Server problems, high ping, bots, spam in general world chat, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ net code (so no good pvp), really boring pve mechanics, bad balaced classes, some classes are useless, trading restrictions. At the start of the game online was 30/40-50k or something like this. Now it's 2-3k and i won't be surprised if half is bots. No, you can't compare this game to old RO. But as i already said - it's f2p, you might try it. Don't expect much tho.

[Mlyrin]

Originally posted by Jekt.:

@Mlyrin: The thing with the cards and gems sounds pretty good! What is the max level?

Lol idk. I'm still pretty new, but you can upgrade cards and gems(by combining them) and whatever max level that can reach is probably the max level of the skill increase I guess. So far I've reached 5 and can go to 6 (normal gems). So I'm guessing 10 is the max. I could probably look it up but I'm a lazy butt.

Also yes there are bots. Ro has bots (quite a lot). Bots are everywhere in every game. In this game it's mostly that they're either in town spamming. I am not at the higher levels so I don't know if there are bots at the end game but most of the maps I see don't have any.

[☠ TheCranManCan ☠]

I only played a bit of RAG but I like TOS better because I can jump in TOS. Also they gave me a box!!! I can open the box whenever I want and sit in it and get attention from people. Love TOS.

[Mlyrin]

Originally posted by ☠ TheCranMan ☠:

I only played a bit of RAG but I like TOS better because I can jump in TOS. Also they gave me a box!!! I can open the box whenever I want and sit in it and get attention from people. Love TOS.

Jump n shoot is da best. I also like playing with a remote.

[Negatron]

I think its better than RO in some ways and less than RO in others, I think you should try it out and not liten to the haters or the white knights.