Is there a major upside to Accursed Vampire that I'm not seeing?

[Silver Felyne]

I've been doing some runs as Vampire Accursed, and after dying about 50 times...
I can see Accursed is really powerful, and Vampire is really powerful, but together they seem to completely fizzle.
The only combo I can really see is Bloodletting giving you your precious vials, but that doesn't seem to outweigh the massive increase in blood need.

[LogosPariah]

it would take too long to actually explain how to do well with it so I'm gonna be unhelpful. skill issue.

[Silver Felyne]

Originally posted by Silly Smiler:

it would take too long to actually explain how to do well with it so I'm gonna be unhelpful. skill issue.

Didn't even ask how to do well as it, asked what upside is (as opposed to Vampire/Monk, Vampire/Wizard, or Accursed/Anyone-except-Automaton).
reading issue.

[Marksman Max]

Honestly, most (if not all) of the signature classes are better played on other races. Insectoid Accursed is really strong, for example. So is Shaman on literally any other race than goblin.

[Silver Felyne]

Originally posted by Marksman Max:

Honestly, most (if not all) of the signature classes are better played on other races. Insectoid Accursed is really strong, for example. So is Shaman on literally any other race than goblin.

To be entirely fair to Goblin Shaman, Goblin isn't the best race for a caster class, but Shaman is probably the best caster class for Goblin. It gives your illiterate green butt a bunch of spells.

Vampire Accursed just seems uniquely awkward in that Vampire loses so much and gains so little from what should be their class. So much so that any race (except Automaton) is just better due to being able to eat food and drink water.
I feel like if Accursed Vampire had doubled blood vials from assassination (since being Accursed gives one, being a Vampire gives one, being both should give two), it'd be a lot better.

[happygiggi]

The signature class to the race isn't meta at all, the whole point is just being fitting.

Vampire is extremely strong race on his own, with very good damage resist and innate levit spell that allow to legend magic instantly. And bloodletting being very strong damaguing spell with the guaranted blood vial drop.

Accursed is like a magic version of ninja. You run through the floors in seconds, backstabing or magic kill everything.

[Marksman Max]

Originally posted by Silver Felyne:

To be entirely fair to Goblin Shaman, Goblin isn't the best race for a caster class, but Shaman is probably the best caster class for Goblin. It gives your illiterate green butt a bunch of spells.

I actually think Goblin is a decent spellcaster, oddly enough. You do have to cast from books, but the power of spells cast from books is increased, especially if the spellbook is enchanted. Also, books have 100% more durability as a Goblin.

Your overall spellcasting power is reduced, but your potential burst damage is nuts, so while Goblin is likely a bad choice for a Wizard you can still thrive as a hybrid caster.

[Cheggf]

Vampire doesn't have higher hunger drain, Accursed does. You need the same amount of blood.

[Marksman Max]

Originally posted by Cheggf:

Vampire doesn't have higher hunger drain, Accursed does. You need the same amount of blood.

Well, you DO need more blood vials because that's all you can eat as a Vampire without polymorphing. Human Accursed can still eat normal food in addition to blood vials.